{"id":590,"date":"2011-06-28T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2011-06-29T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/590"},"modified":"2011-06-28T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2011-06-29T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-06-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/590","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-06-28"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-21\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-21\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.11<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> ETA: this week<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Builds start: 13 June\n<li> QA with builds start: 14 June\n<li> Beta period starts: 14\/15 June\n<li> Final release: 21 June\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=06&amp;day=28&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Roland<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree, Archaeopteryx, for timely Lightning reviews<\/p>\n<p>When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-06-21\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-06-21\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>No change since last week.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> contracts w\/3rd party email providers progressing\n<li> security reviews\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> OpenSearch <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Most bugs resolved; still working on a new UI for setting the default search engine.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Final polish, locale fixes, 2.0 is released, I&#8217;ll blog about it when 5.0 is announced. A few bugs on the Thunderbird side are about to land, need some action on my side ([Bug 662792] Thunderbird (too) aggressively marks messages as read after display, [Bug 611458] Add Ability to Print Summary of Collapsed Threads in Message Pane). These will improve the interaction between Conversations and Thunderbird. Please do report any issue you see on the GitHub bugtracker!\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Thread on tb-planning summing up the issues, gathering various opinions and feedback. I&#8217;ll probably try to bundle compose in a tab + another editor see if the integration goes better.\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Account Summary <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/addon\/mail-summaries\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Version 1.0<\/a> released! (But still awaiting review&#8230;)\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ubuntu Unity Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=652855\" rel=\"nofollow\">De-RDFing patch<\/a> is still going through the final stages of review &#8211; need to merge it soon!\n<li> Our first status checkpoint with Canonical is this Thursday, June 30th.  EDS contact integration is on track.\n<li> Lightning integration was discussed last week with Fallen and Chris Coulson.  Chris will be developing an EDS Provider for Lightning soon.\n<li> Messaging Menu and Unity Launcher extensions are now bundled with TB 5.0 in Ubuntu Oneiric!\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.spreadthunderbird.com\/content\/mozilla-launches-new-version-thunderbird-0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Released<\/a><\/b>\n<li> Miramar nightlies have been stopped.\n<li> Looking at redirecting the Miramar nightly users to the Earlybird channel so that they end up somewhere.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 6 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Earlybird is the name for the Thunderbird builds on the Aurora channel\n<li> Merge date to beta channel &#8211; 5th July next week.\n<li> Standard8 will be looking at bugs and issues for TB 6\/7 this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 7 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on comm-central.\n<li> Merge date &#8211; feature &amp; string freeze &#8211; 5th July.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Released 3.1.11 last week.\n<li> Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/addon\/mail-summaries\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mail summaries<\/a> Give you nice stats on your accounts\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0% of replies versus sent\n<li> disk occupation\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Worked on  5.0\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 5, today\n<ul>\n<li> Web site, now on mozilla.org\/thunderbird\n<li> press outreach\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Backed out<\/b>: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=656049\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 656049<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/comm-central\/rev\/0f79491664e9\" rel=\"nofollow\">c-c:0f79491664e9<\/a> client.mk can now invoke client.py for comm-central builds via <i>.mozconfig<\/i>: Waiting on a better implementation, caused some confusion to developers with spurious error messages\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> More Mac Minis will be coming to the mac pools\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 5.0 final released\n<li> automatic blocklist updates should land this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> webpage is moved and functioning on mozilla.org stage. The homepage and in-product pages are done, other parts that don&#8217;t need l10n will be done by the end of this week.\n<\/ul>\n<pre>* <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/<\/a>\n* <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/5.0\/start\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/5.0\/start<\/a>\n* <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/5.0\/whatsnew\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www-stage.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/5.0\/whatsnew<\/a>\n<\/pre>\n<ul>\n<li> localization is in progress\n<li> met with moco webdev\/engagement to discuss bedrock, the Django rewrite of mozilla.com\/org\n<li> Fixed AMO bug to add Thunderbird collection for the discovery pane\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> new KB article: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/how-can-i-send-large-attachment\" rel=\"nofollow\">How to send large attachments<\/a>\n<li> ongoing integration of Thunderbird into Mozilla sites (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/12DQMcE3ZBsiCYGe8IR4aAKu8rwgCt8YS1_s7vfPVE2I\/edit?hl=en_US&amp;authkey=CNaBh-oC\" rel=\"nofollow\">tracking document<\/a>)\n<li> contributor engagement (case study for contributor group)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1675 new support topics (1312 last week) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/2\/29\/20-26June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png\" title=\"20-26June2011-Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.png\">Media:20-26June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 5 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; nothing found in beta\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<li> Sometime late on June 22, 2011, the Yahoo mail POP Server was updated and SSL stopped working for all Email clients including Thunderbird 3.1.11, Apple Mail.app and Outlook. Yahoo rolled back to their old server on Friday June 25, 2011 thanks to Yahoo support [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=667057\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 667057<\/a>,<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/thunderbird_has_stopped_getting_yahoo_mail\" rel=\"nofollow\">Get Satisfaction Yahoo POP outage due to upgrade June 22, 2011<\/a> ]\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release 1.0b4 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Release is on AMO, release notes and blog post will follow this evening\n<li> Slight issues with AMO policies (mostly, communication and short notice)\n<li> At least one known issue, we need better QA, be it automated or not.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Planning 1.0b5 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Focus on infrastructure and fixing any urgent regression from 1.0b4\n<ul>\n<li> We need unit and mozmill tests to work!\n<li> If build automation would be producing releases faster, we might be able to do releases more often.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Get Summer of Code Projects into the tree\n<li> Further planning TBD.\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Summer of Code <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Mohit has preliminary offline sync binaries available, see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillagsoc.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/binaries-are-online-solely-for-getting.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mozillagsoc.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/binaries-are-online-solely-for-getting.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Lenni is now concentrating on the UI part of his project instead so we can easier integrate with EDS later on.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> sid0: MozMill upgrade to 1.5.4.\n<ul>\n<li> Either (a) check patch into all trees (risky) or (b) check MozMill into comm-central.\n<li> Semi-working patch for option (b).\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>rolandtanglao, standard8 aka Mark Banner, sancus, gozer,jenzed, fallen aka Philipp Kewisch, mconley, sid0, bwinton, jb, bienvenu, ludo, jhopkins, sancus, rebron<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta Thunderbird 3.1.11 ETA: this week Builds start: 13 June QA with builds start: 14 June Beta period starts: 14\/15 June Final release: 21 June Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/590"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=590"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/590\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=590"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=590"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=590"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}