{"id":592,"date":"2011-06-29T23:00:05","date_gmt":"2011-06-30T03:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/592"},"modified":"2011-06-29T23:00:05","modified_gmt":"2011-06-30T03:00:05","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-06-29","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/592","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-06-29"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-29<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-22\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-22\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-06&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-06 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Dave M to report on early Addon SDK uptake stats <b>DONE<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> We are having issues with Web Trends, no stats on the Add-on SDK downloads\n<li> BUT &#8211; We have info from Add-on Builder\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Since last Tues:\n<\/p>\n<pre>1259 new registrations\n2150 new packages\n78 of which are libraries, the rest add-ons\n<\/pre>\n<ul>\n<li> <strike>Christian to report on 3.6 EOL meeting outcome<\/strike> <b>DONE (cancelled)<\/b>\n<li> <strike>Johnathan to ping web dev about selenium bustage in FF5.<\/strike> <b>DONE<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> From Dave Hunt in email:<br \/>\n<blockquote><p>Selenium 2.0rc3 was released earlier this week with support for Firefox 5. Selenium IDE (a Firefox addon) does not officially support Firefox 5, however this is currently being tested and should be released in the near future.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<li> and then from David Burns:<br \/>\n<blockquote><p>I added Selenium support for Selenium 1 API and Selenium 2 support before Firefox 5 was released. Since I am a core committer on the Selenium project I find it is my responsibility to make sure that it works with each release of Firefox. I advertised the support on Monday with <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/AutomatedTester\/statuses\/82874102699929600\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/twitter.com\/AutomatedTester\/statuses\/82874102699929600<\/a> for the python bindings and Firefox 5. &#8230; I will continue to make sure it works with each version.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> catlee\/joduinn to report back on discussions around shuttering 3.5 automation\n<ul>\n<li> Some questions, no objections\n<li> Planning to shut off automation Thursday June 30th\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 4.0, 5) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Cancelled the 3.6 EOL discussion\n<li> To be clear, we are going to ship a Firefox 3.6.19 update at the same time as Firefox 6\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (5) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> A second dormant week for beta. This one time, there&#8217;s no Beta going to final on migration day because that happened two weeks ago with the launch of Firefox 5.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (6) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Taking a few late breaking and potentially scary changes including a deeply concerning Mac change to move from ATS font APIs to CGFont\/CTFont which is necessary to avoid horrible crashes when Mac OS 10.7 ships (July sometime.) We need lots of help testing Mac Firefox 6 to have confidence in shipping this change.  Aurora migrates up to Beta next Tuesday\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (7) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> mozilla-central has already seen over 4,000 changesets this cycle for approximately 2,100 bugfixes and features. Migrates up to Aurora next Tuesday at around 10am PT. If you want your feature or fix to have a good shot at Firefox 7, you want to get those changes in before then.\n<li> over 500 changesets in the last week resulting in over 300 fixes and features including:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=312156\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 312156<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;implement text-overflow: ellipsis from CSS3 text&#8221; (landed just before last week&#8217;s meeting but I didn&#8217;t get it into the notes)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570341\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 570341<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Initial implementation of web timing specification.&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=651858\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 651858<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;[Azure] Implement Direct2D Azure Backend&#8221; landed with canvas using it. Big wins on canvas benchmarks.&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661388\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661388<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Support selecting text in web content&#8221; Text selection in Mobile!&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=652657\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 652657<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Provide opt-in UI for Telemetry&#8221; Telemetry is now &#8220;on&#8221; in nightly builds because you can now opt in to data collection.&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665580\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 665580<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Hide http:\/\/ and single trailing slashes in the location bar&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=543463\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 543463<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Make it easier for non-Mozilla devs to get and use the JavaScript Shell&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=666431\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 666431<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Add an API to get the list of add-on changes that happened during startup&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=666437\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 666437<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Allow extensions installed from certain locations to be disabled by default &#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663871\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663871<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Websockets Protocol IETF 08&#8243; Hopefully the protocol that takes over the Web!!&#8221;\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=664486\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 664486<\/a> &#8212; &#8220;Add page fault count to about:memory on Linux and Mac&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 5 <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Firefox 5 launched last week (sim-ship with desktop)\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 6  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Currently in AURORA, ready to move to BETA on July 5 (see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases#Firefox_6\" rel=\"nofollow\">Release Schedule<\/a>). This will update Beta in Android Market, bridging the current gap (official release is newer than the current Firefox 5 Beta) <\/p>\n<p><b>New features in 6:<\/b><br \/> \n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Better <b>first-run<\/b> experience &#8211; guide showing Browser Tools and features, faster start using less memory<br \/> \n<li>Higher-quality image scaling (on devices with NEON-compatible processors).[When zoomed in our out, less pixelation, crisper display of logos, etc.]<br \/> \n<li>Improvements for large-screen <b>tablets<\/b> [Optimizing Firefox for larger tablet devices, e.g. by adjusting UI elements, buttons, font size. (Phase 1)]\n<li>Improved <b>Form Helper<\/b> [Form helper is less obtrusive on Android now]\n<li>Theme changes for phones running Android 2.3 (<b>Gingerbread<\/b>) [Now refreshed to look even more beautiful on Gingerbread OS.]\n<li>Fixed bugs: Optimized rendering of pages that use <b>RTL layout <\/b>(languages like Arabic, Hebrew) [Universal access]<br \/> \n<li><b>Touch Events<\/b> (part 1 &#8211; single touch only). [Expose touch events to content for better interaction with web pages and services, and compatibility with WebKit\/Opera and existing web content.]\n<li><b>IndexedDB<\/b> database storage for web pages. [Pick up where you left off (e.g after crash or when terminated in the background (adding session history. Currently only saves last URL), better performance and memory management]\n<li>Automatic text hyphenation with the -moz-hyphens CSS property (bug 253317).\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 7 <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>currently in NIGHTLY channel; moves to AURORA on July 5, 2011 (see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases#Firefox_7\" rel=\"nofollow\">Release Schedule<\/a>)\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Add-on Builder<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We have a new release going out at 2PM PST today.\n<li> Our focus will remain tuning, maturation, and performance enhancement of our current features. I am projecting that we will be doing releases with these goals at their core for the next 4-6 weeks.\n<li> We will be socializing a few options for elevating well-built user libraries on the Builder. This is important for the long-term success of the platform as we expect the community to generate a large share of libraries.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0\">Add-on SDK 1.0<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We are having some issues with Web Trends and don&#8217;t know SDK download stats\n<li> Work begun on post-1.0\n<li> Jetpack\/Flightdeck work week in 2 weeks\n<li> New feature pages and roadmap update in the works\n<li> Development process\/release plan <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/browse_thread\/thread\/25062dc30dc4b804\" rel=\"nofollow\">still available for comments!<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/4.2\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/4.2\">Input 4.2<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> ETA is today!\n<li> ElasticSearch is integrated on Staging and the Metrics team has a cluster set up for it. We&#8217;re set up on production too!\n<li> Grouperfish is up and running and mostly integrated with Input on a development server; but it won&#8217;t make it for 4.2. We&#8217;re expecting it to land for 4.3 in 2 weeks.\n<li> Daily automated metrics reports are being sent to feedback-collectors@mozilla.com and being iterated upon as well.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other side notes:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Starting up requirements setting for automating bug creation due to jumps in feedback in Input\n<li> Working on an simple experimental add-on that allows users to send feedback for add-ons authors\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><b>Firefox 5.0<\/b>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Extensions,  extensions, extensions.  Top extensions are: Google Toolbar, Yahoo Toolbar and antivirus and internet download manager.\n<li>Loss of passwords\/bookmarks likely caused by extensions not working (?)\n<li>PDFs don&#8217;t show (possibly related to extensions)\n<li>Complaints about the more frequent updates\n<li>Slowness\/non responsiveness when loading pages\n<li>Memory usage\n<li>Missing search box (may be related to toolbar extensions)\n<li>Youtube doesn&#8217;t work (looks like it&#8217;s related to HTML5 video?)\n<li>AppTabs don&#8217;t save\n<li>Other sites:\n<ul>\n<li>mail.tiscali.it\n<li>Westlaw\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sympatico.ca\/default.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.sympatico.ca\/default.aspx<\/a> (links only work in new tabs)\n<li>Bunches of enterprise web portals\n<li>Quickbooks online\n<li>Apple.com\n<li>Submit feedback button doesn&#8217;t work on input(?)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6\/4.0<\/b>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Still some reports of Firefox bustage in Hotmail, working with team at MS.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/businesscenter\/article\/231363\/mozilla_an_enterprise_firefox_strategy_is_in_the_works.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla: An Enterprise Firefox Strategy Is in the Works<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerweekly.com\/Articles\/2011\/06\/29\/247138\/Mozilla-seeks-to-reassure-enterprises-with-Firefox-support.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla seeks to reassure enterprises with Firefox support<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/8157\/business\/firefox-not-leaving-businesses-behind\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Not Leaving Businesses Behind<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9217986\/Mozilla_moves_55_of_Firefox_4_users_to_new_version_in_first_week\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla moves 55% of Firefox 4 users to new version in first week<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tgdaily.com\/software-brief\/56902-firefox-may-soon-nix-http-from-url-bar\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox may soon nix &#8220;http&#8221; from URL bar<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.co.uk\/blogs\/web-design-and-free-software-10004587\/firefox-5-and-the-relentless-march-of-progress-10022980\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 5 and the relentless march of progress<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/06\/28\/firefox-7-drop-http-navigation-toolbar\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 7 Will Drop &#8216;http&#8217; From Naviation Toolbar<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments and Highlights <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Dropping support for 3.6 is a big thing for SUMO. We&#8217;ll need weeks to prepare and localize articles so please keep that in mind when deciding when to decide about 3.6 EOL.\n<li> Asa asked about the names Jetpack and Flightdeck and SDK and Builder. Answer was that Jetpack and Flightdeck are team names (and sometimes proJECT names) while SDK and Builder are proDUCT names.\n<li> How to get on feedback-collectors@mozilla.com? File an IT bug or mail (Aakash)\n<li> Discussion in dev.platform (and yesterday&#8217;s platform meeting) about possible dropping support for Win2000. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=563318\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 563318<\/a> (joduinn) &#8220;Migrating to Visual Studio 2010&#8221; is the name of the thread.\n<ul>\n<li> New compiler fixes some problems\n<li> MS already officially dropped support for Win2000 <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Windows_2000\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Windows_2000<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions this week <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-29\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-29<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-06-29 &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Planning Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel (the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/592"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=592"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/592\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=592"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=592"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=592"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}