{"id":595,"date":"2011-07-05T23:00:11","date_gmt":"2011-07-06T03:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/595"},"modified":"2011-07-05T23:00:11","modified_gmt":"2011-07-06T03:00:11","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-07-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/595","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-07-05"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-28\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-12&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-12 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>(current release schedules returning soon)<\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=06&amp;day=28&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>mconley<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No nominations this week.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-07-05\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-07-05\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Blake&#8217;s on holiday this week, so no updates.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> OpenSearch <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Blake&#8217;s on holiday this week, so no updates.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Protz has just released a new version (2.0.3) &#8211; please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/addon\/gmail-conversation-view\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">give it a try!<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\/2011\/07\/05\/thunderbird-conversations-now-stable\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">See release announcement here.<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Account Summary <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ubuntu Unity Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> De-RDF&#8217;ing and address book extending patches have landed!  Big thanks to bienvenu, jcranmer and Standard8 for their patience and assistance on those patches.\n<li> Canonical seems to be doing a good job of cleaning up CD space.  It&#8217;s starting to look less and less like space will be an issue.\n<li> Demonstrated read capability to Allison Randal and Jason Warner from Canonical last week, and seemed to go over nicely.\n<ul>\n<li> I haven&#8217;t been able to talk to Jason Warner yet for the official yay\/nay, but Allison says that we seem to have passed our June 30th status check, and should be good to continue the project.\n<li> Hacking on EDS write capability at the moment\n<\/ul>\n<li> Messaging Menu and Unity Launcher addons have landed in Ubuntu PPAs, and we&#8217;re already getting good feedback.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently doing throttled major updates as we keep an eye out for any stability issues. Should be opening it up later this week.\n<li> Miramar nightlies have been stopped, still working on redirecting users, should be done this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 6 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Earlybird is the name for the Thunderbird builds on the Aurora channel\n<li> Merge date to beta channel &#8211; <b>today<\/b>.\n<li> We will start looking at automated compatibility bump this week.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index2.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bugtracking query page<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 7 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on comm-central.\n<li> Merge date &#8211; feature &amp; string freeze &#8211; <b>today<\/b>.\n<li> Big thank you to patch writers, reviewers, and landers!\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index2.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bugtracking query page<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Starting up once Thunderbird 7 moves over to Earlybird.\n<li> When landing patches in trunk, make sure to set the milestone in the bug to the correct version of Thunderbird that you&#8217;re landing in.\n<ul>\n<li> And if you&#8217;re landing in branches, make sure to set the status-thunderbirdX flag to &#8216;fixed&#8217; (where X is the Thunderbird version number you&#8217;re landing in)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/addon\/enigmail\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Enigmail<\/a>\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Lets you digitaly sign and encrypt decrypt emails usinge the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.openpgp.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">OpenPGP<\/a> standard\n<li> Let&#8217;s you manage your keyrings\n<li> Has <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/enigmail.mozdev.org\/download\/nightly.php.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">nightly versions<\/a> of users of Nightlies of Thunderbird\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Worked on release.\n<li> Will do some community work this coming week.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: A lot of good coverage on Tb5 &#8211; some representative articles &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lifehacker.com.au\/2011\/06\/thunderbird-5-brings-tab-dragging-add-ons-management\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lifehacker<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.co.uk\/news\/desktop-apps\/2011\/07\/01\/thunderbird-5-takes-flight-40093285\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">zdnet<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/open-source\/news\/2011\/06\/not-much-in-new-thunderbird-5-but-roadmap-looks-promising.ars\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ars Technica<\/a>\n<li> Thunderbird 5 release.\n<li> www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird new web site.  Still a few more pieces to move over to mozilla.org domain.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Conversion funnel for Tb5\n<li> Scoping out Test Pilot\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Nothing exciting this week.\n<li> Next week, Gozer heads to work Mountain View.\n<li> Has started playing with channel-switching capability for Thunderbird.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug 666535 &#8211; Offer nightly users on Miramar a minor update to the Aurora builds &#8211; Almost ready.\n<li> Due to Bug 666945, nightly updates have longer build ids.\n<li> Thunderbird 3.1.11-&gt;5.0 throttling set to 10%\n<li> Scheduled power outage went smoothly\n<li> Thunderbird 6 beta build this week\n<li> Thunderbird 7 going onto Earlybird channel today\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re working on a channel switcher page <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.com\/en-US\/firefox\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">like Firefox&#8217;s<\/a> for promoting the different update channels.  Should be out in next 2 weeks, hopefully.\n<li> Sancus is out on holiday\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1478 new support topics (1675 last week) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/f\/f0\/27June-3July2011Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png\" title=\"27June-3July2011Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.png\">Media:27June-3July2011Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 5 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; a few not so minor issues found so far, but no new major issues\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/TB6UserChanges\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/TB6UserChanges\">DRAFT Thunderbird 6 User Features Page for TB 6 docs<\/a>\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Burning at the moment.\n<ul>\n<li> A patch that removed some debug messages seems to have shifted some timing somewhat, and revealed an underlying problem.\n<ul>\n<li> Symptoms:  random alarms that cannot be dismissed.\n<li> The debug messages are being put back for now, while the underlying problem is being diagnosed.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Today Pane is malfunctioning.  Hopefully this is just fallout from the debug messages patch.\n<li> There&#8217;s a Windows crash that also needs fixing.  Again, hopefully this is just fallout from the debug messages patch.\n<li> If someone has cycles to help out with patching, testing, or reviewing, that&#8217;d be much appreciated!  Fallen will ping people this week for help.\n<li> Hope to have a release out ASAP.  This week, hopefully.\n<\/ul>\n<li> The AMO page for Lightning needs some polish.  Some of the writing needs an overhaul &#8211; there was a line about &#8220;If you don&#8217;t read the release notes, you&#8217;ll always have data loss&#8221;.  This line has been fixed, but the whole thing needs work.\n<ul>\n<li> Roland will be working with Fallen on this\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Why was the Firefox channel-switcher pulled?\n<ul>\n<li> They weren&#8217;t quite sure what they wanted, and it didn&#8217;t seem discoverable enough.\n<li> Since different versions of Firefox can be installed side-by-side, they decided they didn&#8217;t need it.\n<li> There&#8217;s a blog post about it somewhere, if you search around.  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=659972\" rel=\"nofollow\">Here&#8217;s the bug that removed the channel-switcher.<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Let&#8217;s try to do a better job next time of making sure our add-on developers aren&#8217;t left on the platform when the train leaves the station.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-05 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb (current release schedules returning soon) Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking! 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