{"id":606,"date":"2011-07-20T23:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-07-21T03:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/606"},"modified":"2011-07-20T23:00:06","modified_gmt":"2011-07-21T03:00:06","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-07-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/606","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-07-20"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-20<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-13\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-13\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-27&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-07-27 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Asa to write up a post-facto feature page on async plugin painting on mac\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 5.0) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.6.20 code freeze is August 1st\n<ul>\n<li> Will ship at the same time as Firefox 6\n<\/ul>\n<li> Lion shipped today, we should be good with 5.0.1\n<ul>\n<li> Looking for more issues\n<li> We know that using Java on 3.6 on Lion causes a browser freeze\n<ul>\n<li> Will be fixed in 3.6.20\n<li> Living with it as the Lion early adopters not using Firefox 5+ and using Java is thought to be small\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (6) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Offered the update last week\n<li> Will send a (non-urgent) go to build today or tomorrow\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (7) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Offered the update last week\n<li> Haven&#8217;t done the add-on compatibility bump on AMO yet\n<li> Builds only happen when there are changes during the day (yay RelEng!)\n<ul>\n<li> Christian is blogging on the channels blog about this today\n<\/ul>\n<li> Looks like Azure canvas will stick.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (8) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Migration is 4 weeks away.\n<li> Firefox starting up with multi-process landed to m-c: set pref &#8220;browser.tabs.remote&#8221; to true to try it out!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 5  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>in Android Market and Ovi Store: Total downloads: 2,847,002 (+3.95%) Android Market Active Installs: 1,185,896 (+3.72%) Market rating: 3.4 5\/4\/3\/2\/1: 10541\/5961\/5309\/3989\/5117 <\/p>\n<p><b>Add-Ons<\/b>: Reviewed\/Public: 167 (+1) Compatible: 31 (5.0-8.0a1) Featured: 20\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Low compatible add-ons count\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 6  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Beta 2 launched last week Total downloads: 126,036 (+16.81%) Android Market Active Installs: 51,934 (+15.73%) Market rating: 3.6 5\/4\/3\/2\/1: 533\/343\/241\/145\/211\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 7  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>in Aurora &#8211; last Release for Maemo, goal: publish Aurora on Android Market\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 8  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>in Nightly<br \/> \n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Action Items from last meeting<\/b><br \/>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>What&#8217;s in our releases: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Triage\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Triage<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/mobileroadmap\" rel=\"nofollow\">What&#8217;s coming<\/a> (also:\u00a0see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/fennecroadmap\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/fennecroadmap<\/a>)<br \/> \n<li>Aurora on Android Market (drive decision) &#8211; <br \/> \n<ul>\n<li>Legal clearance: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669929\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669929<\/a><br \/> \n<li>Suggestion: call Application &#8220;Aurora&#8221; (not Firefox Aurora), add &#8220;Firefox&#8221; in the description.\n<ul>\n<li> Christian points out that doesn&#8217;t jive with the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozilla.seanmartell.com\/engagement\/brand\/matrix\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">brand matrix<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Give marketing 30 days before we put anything new in the Android Market\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>New ACTION ITEMS<\/b><br \/>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p> <\/p>\n<p><b>Mobile Test Pilot &#8211; HELP\u00a0TEST!<\/b> &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/mobiletestpilot\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/mobiletestpilot<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><b>Maemo support<\/b>: Fx7 will be final release\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Localization<br \/>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Status quo for the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/l10n-stage-sj.mozilla.org\/shipping\/dashboard?av=fennec5&amp;locale-facet=cs%2Cda%2Cde%2Ces-ES%2Cfi%2Cfr%2Cja%2Cit%2Cnb-NO%2Cnl%2Cpl%2Cpt-PT%2Cru\" rel=\"nofollow\">multi-locale dashboard<\/a> (live link)\n<li>chofman: populations and status of the marketing list of top tier mobile languages\/countries: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/L10n\/Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/L10n\/Mobile<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Shutting off mozilla-2.0 automation?\n<li> Not generating aurora builds or updates if no code or localizations have changed\n<li> Mobile\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/Build:Mobile:Priorities\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mobile priorities page<\/a>\n<li> localized Marketplace promo text still an issue <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663984\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663984<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669189\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669189<\/a> in Android marketplace lets Fennec be installed on incompatible devices &#8211; happening to other apps also\n<li> What&#8217;s New text (localized?) for every release? (500char max)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>testplan for Firefox 6 features is complete\n<ul>\n<li>working on cleanup and organization of feature pages\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Milestones\/6.0\/Beta_2\" title=\"QA\/Fennec\/Milestones\/6.0\/Beta 2\">Beta 2<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>Work has started on testing, target ship date?\n<\/ul>\n<li>Beta 3 target date?\n<\/ul>\n<li>started tracking Firefox 7 features and creating test plans for those features\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/7\" title=\"QA\/Fennec\/7\">QA\/Fennec\/7<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing &amp; PR<br \/>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Firefox Gone Mobile &#8211; SF &amp; London &#8211; great success! Report from\u00a0Wilson\/Dan coming soon<br \/> \n<li>Mobile Add-Ons campaign for Fall\n<li>Q3: no big campaigns, focusing on optimizing existing channels to drive usage\n<li>Android Market description update and optimization w\/ Irina\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<b>Headlines<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/computing\/90200-the-history-of-mozilla-and-firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\">The history of Mozilla and Firefox<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.betanews.com\/article\/Mozilla-reestablishes-Enterprise-Working-Group\/1311095887\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla re-establishes Enterprise Working Group<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/07\/20\/mozilla-formulates-enterprise-user-working-group-address-enterprise-needs\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Formulates Enterprise User Working Group to Address Enterprise Needs<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eweek.com\/c\/a\/Desktops-and-Notebooks\/Mozilla-Offers-Olive-Branch-to-Enterprise-With-Working-Group-552247\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Offers Olive Branch to Enterprise With &#8216;Working Group&#8217;<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/digits\/2011\/07\/15\/a-new-technology-to-battle-website-password-fatigue\/?mod=google_news_blog\" rel=\"nofollow\">A New Technology to Battle Website Password Fatigue<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/internet\/90070-browserid-for-firefox-ie-and-chrome-does-away-with-usernames-and-passwords\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla BrowserID for Firefox, IE, and Chrome does away with logins<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2388610,00.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla&#8217;s BrowserID Aims to Eliminate Password Fuss<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/8455\/products\/firefox-is-going-64-bit-what-you-need-to-know\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Is Going 64-Bit: What You Need To Know <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itbusinessedge.com\/cm\/community\/news\/inf\/blog\/mozilla-set-goals-for-firefox-multi-processing-support\/?cs=47896\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Set Goals for Firefox Multi-processing Support<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX and Design  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>UX workweek in Toronto this week\n<ul>\n<li>working\/revising through Brian&#8217;s tablet draft specs\n<li>series of blog posts on this starting tomorrow\n<\/ul>\n<li>madhava to follow up on readability email sent out (you know who you are, brad and doug)\n<ul>\n<li>see Matt&#8217;s in progress specs for readability options in Design section of <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/Features\/readability\" title=\"Fennec\/Features\/readability\">Fennec\/Features\/readability<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>ongoing work on android widget, webapp creation (some detail in a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\/webapps\" rel=\"nofollow\">feature page<\/a>) &#8212; talking to apps team about resourcing\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Research  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Got great feedback on Firefox Home. <\/p>\n<p>Have your friends and family <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.surveygizmo.com\/s3\/575418\/General-Recruiting-Screener\" rel=\"nofollow\">sign up<\/a> up to do some user testing on upcoming mobile studies. <\/p>\n<p>Next Wednesday &#8211; Users in da House &#8211; 2pm-4pm PST\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Market Insights<\/b>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Summary below, full update <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Insights\/2011_Week29\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> and in your inbox.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Dolphin HD released v6.0, a new logo and announced $ 10 million in funding from Sequoia\n<li> Opera announced a 3-year extension to its global agreement to Vodafone and a partnership with Motorola to have Opera Mobile bundled on the Motokey XT device in Brazil\n<li> Android is now growing at a rate of 550,000 activations per day and has a v2.3 SDK with tablet optimization features\n<li> Qualcomm released a mobile browsing benchmark called Vellamo\n<li> Apple announced a strong last quarter, when it sold 33.4 million iOS devices and expanded its international reach\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>More Info<\/b><br \/> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/12sVKqXTsGz-N8RaX0lLnnuqrqJ5ld0P8f1wN7XLsP1o\/edit?authkey=CIuD3IEF\" rel=\"nofollow\">Project Plan Update<\/a> and <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases<\/a><br \/> \n<li>Updated: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0AhE7m4JB2j6tdEJFZ3NoZkRoRTM3TTRpQll3UjZLYnc&amp;hl=en&amp;authkey=CPiPp9IK#gid=4\" rel=\"nofollow\">Android Device Compatibility Criteria Spreadsheet<\/a><br \/> \n<li>Mobile Demos: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/mobiledemos\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/mobiledemos<\/a><b><br \/> <\/b>\n<li>Mobile Eng Team: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0AqyD4pip39oidHQxNW9nd19VSWlfaE5CWmpGTmJlRFE&amp;hl=en#gid=7\" rel=\"nofollow\">Master Sheet<\/a>\u00a0 (&lt;&#8211; this is our single source of truth; request access if you can&#8217;t view the doc)\n<li>Cross-project feature and release documentation (derived from our Master Sheet):<br \/> \n<ul>\n<li><b>Flight Tracking:<\/b> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Flight_Tracking#Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Flight_Tracking#Mobile<\/a><br \/> \n<li><b>Feature List<\/b>: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile<\/a><br \/> \n<li><b>Feature Pages<\/b>: linked from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">Feature List<\/a><br \/> \n<li><b>New Feature Pages<\/b> for all ideas features that are related to projects outside of mobile:\u00a0go <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Inbox\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a><br \/> \n<li><b>Roadmaps<\/b>:\u00a0<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/Roadmap\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for mobile<\/a> | <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/homeroadmap\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Home<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta (6) &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Features\/Sync_Discoverability\" title=\"Firefox\/Features\/Sync Discoverability\">Sync Discovery<\/a>\n<li> Aurora (7) &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Features\/Instant_Sync\" title=\"Firefox\/Features\/Instant Sync\">Instant Sync<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/EOL_Sync_Add_On_Phase_1\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/EOL Sync Add On Phase 1\">Firefox Sync Add-on EOL Plan &#8211; Phase 1<\/a> &#8211; in progress\n<li> Firefox 8+:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Desktop\">Improving Sync Set Up on Desktop<\/a> &#8211; In progress\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Mobile\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Mobile\">Improving Sync Set Up on Mobile<\/a> &#8211; In progress\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.7\" title=\"AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.7\">Add-on Builder<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Freezing this Friday, release next Wednesday &#8211; hopefully this will be the last 2-week bug clean-up round\n<ul>\n<li> Finally tracked down the ghost-in-the-machine bug that was causing roughly 1\/10 add-on test calls to hang in our add-on packaging queue for a looooong time. It was a third-party vendor lib that we use in AMO, we&#8217;ll be discussing possible fixes today.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Moving on to AMO API integrations next dev cycle\n<li> Need to figure out when we are going to make the push to transition the Builder to an open web app, will talk to Ragavan this week.\n<li> In case you didn&#8217;t see our new 12 month roadmap, you can check it out here: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/AMO\/FlightDeck\/Roadmap\" rel=\"nofollow\">Add-on Builder Roadmap<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.1\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.1\">Add-on SDK 1.1<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> progress continues apace on a variety of enhancements and bug fixes\n<li> last chance for feedback on proposed new <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Jetpack\/Development_Process\" title=\"Jetpack\/Development Process\">Jetpack\/Development Process<\/a>!\n<ul>\n<li> post feedback to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/browse_thread\/thread\/25062dc30dc4b804\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jetpack thread<\/a> or <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/a55ac7c6f3c21fe0\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">dev.planning thread<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> initial drafts of feature pages for future development are almost done\n<li> dcm to start soliciting feedback on those soon (next week?)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/4.3\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/4.3\">Input 4.3<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No ETA; working on IT blockers for getting metrics elasticsearch cluster up first\n<li> Will be in semi-maintenance mode for the quarter shoring up the app (WebDev resources divided with Mozillians.org), while working more on getting insights from the current system as it is now with Metrics and other teams.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other notes:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Getting close to a working extension for feedback on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinypic.com\/view.php?pic=2m4oyfs&amp;s=7\" rel=\"nofollow\">specific add-ons<\/a>\n<li> Working with the BMO team on defining a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/TellUsMore\" rel=\"nofollow\">set of requirements<\/a> to allow folks to file bugs into Bugzilla via an option on Input\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Feedback by version:\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>3.6\/4.0 traffic (older)\n<ul>\n<li>Pretty much the only thing is that Firefox 4 users are wondering if they can avoid the update to Firefox 5 and 3.6 users are wondering if they can get Firefox 4 rather than 5.\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/845716\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/845716<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>5.0 or current release. &#8212; Cheng\n<ul>\n<li>Extensions (Mainly Google Toolbar, IDM)\n<ul>\n<li>Google toolbar is now <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/googletoolbarhelp.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/update-on-google-toolbar-for-firefox.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">officially<\/a> unsupported.\n<\/ul>\n<li><b>Hotmail changed so that it won&#8217;t remember your password<\/b> (other bug about not reading email was fixed and seems to have mostly died away).\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/847972\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/847972<\/a>\n<li>I got a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/windowsteamblog.com\/windows_live\/b\/windowslive\/archive\/2011\/07\/06\/where-did-my-saved-email-address-and-password-go.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">link<\/a> from the hotmail team about this.\n<\/ul>\n<li>App-Tabs aren&#8217;t saving\n<li>PDFs don&#8217;t open (caused by incompatible extensions\/plugins?)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/851305\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/851305<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/838551\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/838551<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/837863\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/837863<\/a> (can&#8217;t make PDFs)\n<\/ul>\n<li>Proxy settings are resetting on shutdown &#8212; maybe malware + user.js (?)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=proxy&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=proxy&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/851746\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/851746<\/a> (and others)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>6.0:\n<ul>\n<li><b>Crashy\/Freezing\/Slow<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=crash&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;date_end=&amp;sentiment=sad\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=crash&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;date_end=&amp;sentiment=sad<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Extensions extensions (mostly AV companies)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=add-ons\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=add-ons<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=extensions\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=extensions<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Maybe more people have log-in issues\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=log+in\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=log+in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li><b>We may have broken hindi or thai:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=hindi\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=hindi<\/a> and <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=thai\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=6.0&amp;q=thai<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Aurora (Features)\n<ul>\n<li>Memory Usage (25)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=memory\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=memory<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Firefox Sync\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=sync\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=sync<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Aurora (Issues\/Bugs)  &#8211; (969 Issues)\n<ul>\n<li>auto apply 7.0a2 update everyday, despite the fact that I&#8217;ve already done the update\n<li>Facebook, eBay, and several other websites that use a lot of Java (I think it&#8217;s Java) aren&#8217;t working with Aurora currently.\n<li>Tabs (72) (mainly App Tabs Issues)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;date_start=2011-07-11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=tabs\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;date_start=2011-07-11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=tabs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Add-ons Incompatibility (260)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=add-ons\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=add-ons<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Google Toolbar (14)\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=toolbar\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;version=7.0a2&amp;q=toolbar<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<table width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td style=\"background-color: #efefef\" width=\"40%;\"> <b>Clustered Insights Found<\/b><\/p>\n<td style=\"background-color: #efefef\" width=\"30%;\"> <b>Release Channel<\/b><\/p>\n<td style=\"background-color: #efefef\" width=\"30%;\"> <b>Bug Id<\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li><b>No Flash<\/b>\n<li>Input: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=flash&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=--&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;date_end=\" rel=\"nofollow\">50<\/a>\n<li>SUMO: New 95 down\n<\/ul>\n<td> All<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=630007\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 630007<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Clear History<\/b>\n<li>Input: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=clear+history&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=--&amp;date_start=2011-07-12\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a>\n<li>SUMO: New 16 up\n<\/ul>\n<td> Beta<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=656901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 656901<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li><b>No Copy &amp; Paste<\/b>\n<li>Input: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=copy+paste&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=6.0&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;date_end=\" rel=\"nofollow\">4<\/a>\n<li>SUMO: None down\n<\/ul>\n<td> Beta  (not in Aurora or Nightly)<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582244\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 582244<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Hard to get to Bookmarks<\/b>\n<li> Input: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=bookmarks&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=5.0&amp;locale=en-US&amp;date_start=2011-07-13\" rel=\"nofollow\">7<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<td> All<\/p>\n<td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Images look jagged<\/b>\n<li> Input: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=image&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=--&amp;date_start=2011-07-12&amp;date_end=\" rel=\"nofollow\">8<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<td> Beta<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669851\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669851<\/a><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/computing\/90200-the-history-of-mozilla-and-firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\">The history of Mozilla and Firefox<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.betanews.com\/article\/Mozilla-reestablishes-Enterprise-Working-Group\/1311095887\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla re-establishes Enterprise Working Group<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/07\/20\/mozilla-formulates-enterprise-user-working-group-address-enterprise-needs\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Formulates Enterprise User Working Group to Address Enterprise Needs<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eweek.com\/c\/a\/Desktops-and-Notebooks\/Mozilla-Offers-Olive-Branch-to-Enterprise-With-Working-Group-552247\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Offers Olive Branch to Enterprise With &#8216;Working Group&#8217;<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/digits\/2011\/07\/15\/a-new-technology-to-battle-website-password-fatigue\/?mod=google_news_blog\" rel=\"nofollow\">A New Technology to Battle Website Password Fatigue<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/internet\/90070-browserid-for-firefox-ie-and-chrome-does-away-with-usernames-and-passwords\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla BrowserID for Firefox, IE, and Chrome does away with logins<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2388610,00.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla&#8217;s BrowserID Aims to Eliminate Password Fuss<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/8455\/products\/firefox-is-going-64-bit-what-you-need-to-know\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Is Going 64-Bit: What You Need To Know <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itbusinessedge.com\/cm\/community\/news\/inf\/blog\/mozilla-set-goals-for-firefox-multi-processing-support\/?cs=47896\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Set Goals for Firefox Multi-processing Support<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments and Highlights <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> For when do we plan the last beta build off of the beta repos? aka, what&#8217;s the target date for l10n of Firefox 6 desktop\/mobile\n<ul>\n<li> Christian said August 3rd (tentative)\n<\/ul>\n<li> (bsmedberg) Status of Windows 64-bit prioritization? I still think this should be very low priority, but I wonder if there is a feature page or an explicit prioritization decision has been made. (asa) Feature page is here: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Special:FormEdit\/Feature_Page\/Features\/Desktop\/Windows_7_64_bit\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Special:FormEdit\/Feature_Page\/Features\/Desktop\/Windows_7_64_bit<\/a> and dev.planning post coming up with the Product Team&#8217;s views.\n<li> Johnath wrote a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/channels\/2011\/07\/18\/every-six-weeks\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a> about release timing\n<li> Christian asks if we&#8217;ve seen an impact on mobile (more bugs, more feedback, faster fixes) after the push for Mozilla employees to run Android\n<ul>\n<li> We are seeing a bit of growth on Nightly and Aurora. 222 ADU on Nightly, 91 ADU on Aurora (up from 172 and 55 one month ago, and still growing).  Note: That&#8217;s not short for 91,000 users &#8211; it&#8217;s just ninety-one users, period.\n<li> Please run builds and file bugs.  But we also need to reach beyond employees if we really want meaningful testing on Nightly and Aurora.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Christian wants to know if we should put something in 3.6.20 to deal with Google Toolbar and updates\n<ul>\n<li> We note that the EOL announcement was anemic at best\n<li> Google&#8217;s still offering it for download in places\n<li> Users trying to update from 3.6 to 5+ may think it will eventually become compatible and wait\n<li> If we are going to do something in product, we need it on 3.6 and 3.6.20 is the vehicle\n<li> If we are going to do something in product, we have very little time as 3.6.20 code freeze is soon (especially if localization is involved)\n<li> Christian will organize a meeting with product, support, and kev. 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