{"id":610,"date":"2011-07-26T23:00:14","date_gmt":"2011-07-27T03:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/610"},"modified":"2011-07-26T23:00:14","modified_gmt":"2011-07-27T03:00:14","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-07-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/610","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-07-26"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-19\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-19\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-02&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-02 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>(current release schedules returning soon)<\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=07&amp;day=26&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, July 26, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mibbit.com\/chat\/?server=irc.mozilla.org&amp;channel=%23maildev\" rel=\"nofollow\">#maildev<\/a> on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Bienvenu<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No nominations this week.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-07-26\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-07-26\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> The <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Privacy\/Reviews\/AccountProvisioner\" title=\"Privacy\/Reviews\/AccountProvisioner\">Privacy Review<\/a> is scheduled.  Next step: turn the add-on code into a patch to core.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> The Draft Schedule is being updated.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> OpenSearch <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> squib is taking over the coding of Open Search, thanks!\n<li> Blake submitted an update to the addon with a new UI.\n<li> Blake is writing the Privacy Review Documentation.\n<li> The Draft Schedule is being updated.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Nice progression of the userbase, went from ~2000 users on the 2.0 series to ~32000 (nice!). Lots of press coverage (lifehacker, lifehacker japan) which certainly helped.<\/p>\n<p>Main issues:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\/333\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\/333<\/a>\n<li> reply button near the top of the message (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/improvements_for_thunderbird_conversations\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/improvements_for_thunderbird_conversations<\/a>)\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\/309\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\/309<\/a> (help welcome for that one)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Redirected the feedback to getsatisfaction (see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/tags\/conversations\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/tags\/conversations<\/a>); any help is welcome. About to issue 2.0.7 to change the &#8220;would you like to leave some feedback&#8221; link to point to getsatisfaction.\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Account Summary <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> About ready to release version 1.1; just waiting to get some additional testing before uploading to AMO (probably on Friday). See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489999\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 489999<\/a> for the XPI.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ubuntu Unity Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> EDS Contacts Integration\n<ul>\n<li> Create, update and delete now appears to work for contacts and mailing lists.  Woo!\n<li> Found a regression introduced by my de-RDF&#8217;ing patch that prevents users from deleting their mailing lists &#8211; patch up for review at <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673480\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673480<\/a>\n<li> Have begun testing and fine-tuning for August 4th demonstration.  Screencast forthcoming.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Major Updates will be unthrottled today.\n<li> Miramar nightly users have been redirected to the Earlybird channel.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 6 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>  beta1 released on beta channel last week, few bugs ready to land for future betas\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 7 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> tb7 on earlybird, <b>earlybird testers<\/b>: please look for address book issues since some of the backend was changed in tb7, folder pane issue on startup has been fixed on trunk, will land on tb7 today if review passes\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox have scheduled the next 1.9.2 release for August 16th., Thunderbird 3.1.x next release is scheduled is for August 16th (code freeze next week)\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/addon\/maximize-message-pane\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Maximize Message Pane<\/a> &#8211; recommended by Wayne Mery\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Ludo away, tb6 beta1 and earlybird tb7 continues\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: several articles <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2388733,00.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>,<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.informationweek.com\/news\/internet\/browsers\/231002116\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a> on Mozilla Enterprise Working Group, 6.0b1 news <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/07\/21\/thunderbird-6-beta-released-new-logos-upcoming\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/open\/news\/item\/Thunderbird-6-0-arrives-in-Beta-Channel-1283252.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>.\n<li> 6.0b1 launched last week.  Next: additional betas and Thunderbird final release.\n<li> Continuing work on Test Pilot studies.\n<li> blog.mozilla.org\/thunderbird coming soon\n<li> Revisiting alpha\/earlybird naming.  &#8220;Mozilla Thunderbird Earlybird&#8221; not working well in several cases.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> faster Windows build improvements, feedback requested\n<li> new Minis in new data center\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 6.0b1 pushed to beta\n<li> Build infrastructure improvements, mainly win32\n<li> Testing patches for bug 656736 &#8211; Upgrade to latest MozMill for Thunderbird&#8217;s tests\n<li> Unthrottling Thunderbird 5 major updates\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Upgrading SuMoMo to Kitsune latest version (July 19, 2011)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1938 new support topics (2013 1 week ago) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/5\/59\/18-24July2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png\" title=\"18-24July2011-Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.png\">Media:18-24July2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 5 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/TB6UserChanges\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/TB6UserChanges\">DRAFT Thunderbird 6 User Features Page for TB 6 docs<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/TB7UserChanges\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/TB7UserChanges\">draft page for TB 7<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/TB8UserChanges\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/TB8UserChanges\">draft page for TB8<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/MovingSuMoMoToMozillaDotOrg\" title=\"Thunderbird\/MovingSuMoMoToMozillaDotOrg\">Alternatives for moving support.mozillamessaging.com to mozilla.org<\/a> &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t really matter to end users where the Thunderbird Support website is we just want to minimize current and future technical <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/yak_shaving\" rel=\"nofollow\">&#8220;yak shaving&#8221;<\/a>.\n<li> Roland is tired of missing Windows subtleties\u00a0\ud83d\ude42 and is therefore moving to using Windows 7 for day to day work after TB6 ships\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> major kudos to Philipp for rapidly getting  EDS provider &#8220;work in progress&#8221; out: currently  smartify, read and delete events work\n<li> Some urgent bugs showed up post 1.0b4 (Don&#8217;t you love that <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mxr.mozilla.org\/comm-central\/source\/calendar\/resources\/content\/sound.wav?raw=1&amp;ctype=audio\/x-wav\" rel=\"nofollow\">&#8220;beep&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0?\u00a0\ud83d\ude09\n<li> They all have fixes now, spinning 1.0b5\n<li> <b>Update<\/b>: Bugs fixed in this release are <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20prod%3Acalendar%20target%3A1.0b5&amp;list_id=814105\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>\n<li> Builds temporarily available at:\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac unified: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mozilla.kewis.ch\/1.0b5rc1\/lightning-all-mac.xpi\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mozilla.kewis.ch\/1.0b5rc1\/lightning-all-mac.xpi<\/a>\n<li> Linux unified: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mozilla.kewis.ch\/1.0b5rc1\/lightning-all-linux.xpi\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mozilla.kewis.ch\/1.0b5rc1\/lightning-all-linux.xpi<\/a>\n<li> Windows is still building\n<\/ul>\n<p>All builds will of course move to ftp.mozilla.org when done.<\/p>\n<p>\n<b>Please take a moment to test these builds!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> We want to get 1.0 out as fast as possible. Blocking list triaged down to 30 or so bugs to facilitate 1.0 release\n<li> Blocking 1.0 list <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=prod%3Acalendar%20flag%3Ablocking-calendar1.0%2B&amp;columnlist=bug_id%2Cassigned_to%2Cstatus_whiteboard%2Cshort_desc&amp;list_id=814062\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>\n<li> Lets talk about how reasonable my decisions are when I have the list\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>bienvenu bwinton jb  roland mconley  fallen gozer jhopkins rebron sancus andreasn wsmwk\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-07-26 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb (current release schedules returning soon) Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking! 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