{"id":613,"date":"2011-07-27T23:00:13","date_gmt":"2011-07-28T03:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/613"},"modified":"2011-07-27T23:00:13","modified_gmt":"2011-07-28T03:00:13","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-07-27","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/613","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-07-27"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/27-Jul-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 8605\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8605\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8605\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Fennec 8 (nightly)\n<ul>\n<li> This is the active development trunk\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 7 (aurora)\n<ul>\n<li> Need to move only required fixes from trunk (as those fixes are made)\n<li> Fixed on Aurora this week:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=664364\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 664364<\/a> &#8211; Entering newline after Japanese in a textarea doesn&#8217;t change cursor position\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=671960\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 671960<\/a> &#8211; Prevent calling cairo functions on invalid surfaces through gfxASurface\n<li> Backout out bug 672026 for causing mobile startup crashes\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 6 (beta)\n<ul>\n<li> Live in the Android Market\n<li> Fixed on Beta this week:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=671960\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 671960<\/a> &#8211; Prevent calling cairo functions on invalid surfaces through gfxASurface\n<li> Backout out bug 672026 for causing mobile startup crashes\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next merge date is 2011-08-16\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Work for Fx8\n<ul>\n<li> Tablet UI\n<ul>\n<li> UX design is ready for start implementation\n<\/ul>\n<li> Selecting text in web content followup bugs\n<ul>\n<li> Landed some fixes\n<li> What are the priority fixes needed for Fx7?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Language picker support for locales on AMO\n<ul>\n<li> Process of getting XPIs to AMO <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674253\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674253<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Basic webapp support\n<ul>\n<li> Need to &#8220;appify&#8221; the tab?\n<li> Need to support manifest approach <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=609043\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 609043<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Master Password\n<ul>\n<li> Address review comments\n<li> File some follow up bugs\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Let&#8217;s make sure we are working on other bugs and minor features too\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>UX<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Madhava vacationing in cottage country, back August 2\n<li>Fennecomb &#8211; ongoing design and spec work, and visual design and asset work starting late this week\/early next week\n<li>Design updates to Fennec about:home underway (Bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=646899\" rel=\"nofollow\">646899<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669166\" rel=\"nofollow\">669166<\/a>)\n<li>Designs for Fennec camera UI underway\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> If you have worked or are working on OpenGL, please attend the OpenGL ES accelerated layers sync-up meeting (tomorrow &#8211; 9am PDT.  extension 99366)\n<ul>\n<li> Gfx team has a branch with OpenGL ES accelerated layers, which is ready for testing, at least in terms of &#8220;does this give us the speedup we expect.&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> NDKr5 mozconfig changes are in staging, should deploy today\n<li> updated build docs <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec\/Android\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec\/Android<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Tier 1 -&gt; Tier 3\n<ul>\n<li> Post FF7\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> An effort has been started to reduce startup time\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Mobile_Startup_Shrink\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Mobile_Startup_Shrink<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=whiteboard%3Amobilestartupshrink&amp;list_id=831563\" rel=\"nofollow\">Startup shrink bugs<\/a>\n<li> One meeting so far (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Mobile_Startup_Shrink\/Meeting_July_21_2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">meeting notes<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Wrapped up 6 beta 3 Monday + shipped.\n<li> concern about text selection\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?list_id=869855&amp;short_desc=text%20selection&amp;resolution=---&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;product=Fennec\" rel=\"nofollow\">open bugs<\/a>\n<li> are any of these show stoppers\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_27july\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report: July 27,2011<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/test.kairo.at\/socorro\/2011-07-26.buildcrashes.html#Fennec-beta\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crashes per build id Report 2011-07-26<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/test.kairo.at\/socorro\/2011-07-26.fennec.5.explosiveness.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Explosiveness 2011-07-26<\/a>\n<li> resolved:\n<ul>\n<li> 5.26% &#8211; 2011-07-26 15:47:21 PDT bug 671960 &#8211; Crash [@ _moz_cairo_surface_get_device_offset ]\n<li> 5.26% &#8211; 2011-07-22 14:21:07 PDT bug 671818 &#8211; play a webm file report error after fennec6.0, crash [@ mozilla::gfx::ScaleYCbCrToRGB565]\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> looking into turning on about 8000 more mochitests for android automation this week\n<li> xpcshell on android is making progress\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>we added &#8220;+&#8221; to tracking-fennec to track bugs we care about, but don&#8217;t have a clear timeline for\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>SUMO <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?a=v&amp;pid=explorer&amp;chrome=true&amp;srcid=0B7fWUH4P6OXzMTRlYzhlYTMtYzZlYy00ODM5LWEyNWItOGM3NzgwNjE1Y2M5&amp;hl=en_US\" rel=\"nofollow\">detailed weekly report<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>SUMO general insights:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Most requested device is Symbian\/Nokia this week.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Access issues:\n<\/ul>\n<p>Market link not working (19) Need direct link to download (17) Can&#8217;t download to tablet (24) <\/p>\n<p>Overall 158 &#8216;I have this problem too&#8217; votes related to tablets on SUMO this week. <\/p>\n<p>Common Input issues this week: No flash (26), too slow (22), too difficult to use (15) <\/p>\n<p>Overall Input is very positive (60\/70% of feedback is positive: good, fast, sync) for Firefox Mobile. <\/p>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile_Support_Project_Page\" rel=\"nofollow\">Project plan draft for Q3 SUMO Mobile goal<\/a> <\/p>\n<p> <\/p>\n<p>Status of our requests for platform \/ layout teams (e.g. readability)?\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/27-Jul-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/27-Jul-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/27-Jul-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 8605 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8605 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8605 irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule Fennec 8 (nightly) This is the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/613"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=613"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/613\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=613"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=613"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=613"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}