{"id":618,"date":"2011-08-03T23:00:14","date_gmt":"2011-08-04T03:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/618"},"modified":"2011-08-03T23:00:14","modified_gmt":"2011-08-04T03:00:14","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-08-03","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/618","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-08-03"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/03-Aug-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95312\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312\n<\/ul>\n<li> Vidyo: WarpCore (not WarpCorePolycom)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Fennec 8 (nightly)\n<ul>\n<li> This is the active development trunk\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 7 (aurora)\n<ul>\n<li> Need to move only required fixes from trunk (as those fixes are made)\n<li> Fixed on Aurora this week:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=636042\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 636042<\/a> &#8211; All fonts are serif, give preference to stock android fonts\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675236\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675236<\/a> &#8211; portrait view shifted on tablet awesomescreen\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673674\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673674<\/a> &#8211; Fennec freezes when viewing a non .txt file from disk.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 6 (beta)\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed on Beta this week:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=636042\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 636042<\/a> &#8211; All fonts are serif, give preference to stock android fonts\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675236\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675236<\/a> &#8211; portrait view shifted on tablet awesomescreen\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next merge date is 2011-08-16\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Work for Fx8\n<ul>\n<li> Tablet UI\n<ul>\n<li> Implementation is being tweaked to match latest designs\n<li> Plan to land soon with a pref to enable\/disable\n<\/ul>\n<li> Selecting text in web content followup bugs\n<ul>\n<li> Landed more fixes on fx8\n<li> Seems like we should move the existing fx8 fixes to fx7 and will be OK.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Language picker support for locales on AMO\n<ul>\n<li> Process of getting XPIs to AMO <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674253\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674253<\/a>\n<li> Logistics work is underway to figure out how to handle nightly and aurora impact (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675254\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675254<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675252\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675252<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Basic webapp support\n<ul>\n<li> Need to &#8220;appify&#8221; the tab in a similar way to desktop\n<li> Need to support manifest approach <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=609043\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 609043<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Master Password\n<ul>\n<li> Should be good for landing. Status?\n<li> Security review completed\n<li> waiting for code review form kaie <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=592772\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 592772<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Let&#8217;s make sure we are working on other bugs and minor features too\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> reviewing current and near-future state of text selection handles (madhava)\n<li> tablet designs refining, moving to dev (brian)\n<li> working on\n<ul>\n<li> start page (ian)\n<li> &#8220;fennecomb&#8221; visual design (ian)\n<li> webapp\/shortcut-on-desktop taskflow (madhava)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> if you have bugs that need UX-input\/feedback\/review &#8211; please add the ui-wanted keyword (and\/or email madhava)\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669410\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669410<\/a> Safe Browsing update &#8211; (Gian-Carlo)\n<li> OpenGL Update (CLord)\n<ul>\n<li> probably ff9\n<\/ul>\n<li> Startup Shrink (stover)\n<ul>\n<li> gladium is working on PGO\n<li> stover working on tools\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> NDKr5 deployed\n<li> Mike Hommey (glandium) is working on building an NDK with gcc 4.6 and enabling PGO.  See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/glandium.org\/blog\/?p=2146\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=632954\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 632954<\/a>.\n<li> Enabled high-quality (bilinear) image scaling on Tegra devices in Nightly (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669851\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669851<\/a>).  We may want to take this for Aurora (Firefox 7) after getting feedback from Nightly users.\n<li> Some upcoming work may require updating the Android SDK (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=672661\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 672661<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675901<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=664149\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 664149<\/a>).  Filed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=676275\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 676275<\/a> to update the build machines.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> uptick in checkerboarding\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674830\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674830<\/a> &#8211; l10n releng issue\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_03Aug2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report Aug 03, 2011:<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/test.kairo.at\/socorro\/2011-08-02.buildcrashes.html#Fennec-beta\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crashes per build id Report 2011-08-02<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/test.kairo.at\/socorro\/2011-08-02.fennec.5.explosiveness.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Explosiveness 2011-08-02<\/a>\n<li> Socorro 2.1 pushed out Aug 2nd.\n<ul>\n<li> content crashes are now included in the crashes\/ADU graphs\n<li> content crashes are being aggregated\n<li> Old data is not being reprocessed.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/2011-08\/crash_stats_update_planned_changes_and_c\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kairo&#8217;s blog about changes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Reports will be processed on Mondays from now on.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> DougT secured a tegra and started looking at the libc abort during testing.\n<li> mochitest chunks 5-8 are turned on for most branches\n<li> new weekly meetings to coordinate <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Testing\" title=\"Mobile\/Testing\">Mobile\/Testing<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/Build:Mobile:Priorities\" rel=\"nofollow\">Priorities page<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tegras &#8211; tests are enabled across all applicable branches.\n<ul>\n<li> Some have no mobile builds or any tests running, so not on those branches.\n<li> Ateam has a list of more tests that can be enabled once green.\n<li> Wait times are still good.\n<li> We have full branch coverage on the tegras; is there anything else to stop us de-prioritizing Maemo? (Also, Ops wants to kill production-mobile-master because it needs to move from ESX to Ganeti.)\n<li> Priorities page is largely out of our hands at this point &#8212; move to public wiki or tracking bug, any pref? Who should own?\n<li> Consolidate monday meeting with this meeting?\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669189\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669189<\/a> &#8211; Market fixed\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><b>Issue metrics July 26-Aug 2<\/b><\/p>\n<p>5.0 (86 total negative posts on input this week)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 8.3% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too slow&#8217;\n<li> 1% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too hard to use&#8217;\n<\/ul>\n<p>6.0 (126 total negative posts on input this week)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 7.1% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too slow&#8217;\n<li> 5.5% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too hard to use&#8217;\n<\/ul>\n<p>6.0 (21 total negative review comments on android market this week)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 43% of android market negative comments say &#8216;too slow&#8217;\n<li> 19% of android market negative comments say &#8216;too hard to use&#8217;\n<\/ul>\n<p>7.0 (9 total posts on input this week; positive and negative)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 11% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too slow&#8217;\n<li> 22% of input sad face posts say &#8216;too hard to use&#8217;\n<\/ul>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?a=v&amp;pid=explorer&amp;chrome=true&amp;srcid=0B7fWUH4P6OXzYzVlYzc3YjItZjU5YS00ZTgzLWJjMzYtMDVmNzNmNDIxNjYy&amp;hl=en_US\" rel=\"nofollow\">full report<\/a> for raw numbers of posts, SUMO &#8216;I have this problem too votes&#8217;, new questions asked on SUMO and other themes from input (no flash, crashy, hangs, and can&#8217;t find bookmarks).\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/03-Aug-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/03-Aug-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/03-Aug-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 95312 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 Vidyo: WarpCore (not WarpCorePolycom) irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule Fennec 8 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/618"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=618"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/618\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=618"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=618"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=618"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}