{"id":624,"date":"2011-08-10T23:00:10","date_gmt":"2011-08-11T03:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/624"},"modified":"2011-08-10T23:00:10","modified_gmt":"2011-08-11T03:00:10","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-08-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/624","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-08-10"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/10-Aug-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Moved to 12:00 Pacific, 3pm Eastern, 19:00 UTC in Warp Core for today only<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95346\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95346\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95346\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95346\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<li> vidyo: PB&amp;J\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Fennec 8 (nightly)\n<ul>\n<li> This is the active development trunk\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 7 (aurora)\n<ul>\n<li> Need to move only required fixes from trunk (as those fixes are made)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 6 (beta)\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed on Beta this week (yes we actually landed something):\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=676780\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 676780<\/a> &#8211; Fennec is unable to load webpages and close tabs\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669289\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669289<\/a> &#8211; Fennec UI is unresponsive and browser becomes unusable if a restart is triggered with a single blank tab open\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next merge date is 2011-08-16\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> 6.0b6 &#8211; needed to test session restore fixes\n<li> Merge on 8\/16\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Work for Fx8\n<ul>\n<li> Tablet UI\n<ul>\n<li> Landed base patch with a pref to enable\/disable\n<li> Working on a few followup patches that would be great to get for Aurora. We&#8217;ll see.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Selecting text in web content followup bugs\n<ul>\n<li> Stays on in Fx7\n<li> Platform API is close in Fx8. Might need to push for early Aurora.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Basic webapp support\n<ul>\n<li> The plan is to remove the &#8220;Install as App&#8221; menu in Aurora\n<\/ul>\n<li> Landed &#8220;Add to Home Screen&#8221; for bookmarks\n<ul>\n<li> Feature page should be added\u00a0\ud83d\ude42\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Let&#8217;s make sure we are working on other bugs and minor features too\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> telemetry UI resolved\n<li> finalizing &#8220;add to home screen&#8221; UI &#8212; bookmark panel action and home screen icon\n<li> reviewing UX of interim flash solution\n<li> a couple of tablet UI structural patches coming; visual design work starting in earnest\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> madhava working with apps team on mobile apps approach\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> jdm is still pushing to land remote content process crash reporter annotations (bug 581341) before the next merge, but windows opt try builds keep mysteriously crashing\n<li> Master password status\n<li> Keyboard and IME interaction status\n<li> xpcshell testing status\n<li> flash status\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~dougt\/fennec_plugin_test.apk\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~dougt\/fennec_plugin_test.apk<\/a>\n<li> not for the timid\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> jchen has been working on a better Android gdb (&#8216;jimdb&#8217;). <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~nchen\/moz-gdb.tar.bz2\" rel=\"nofollow\">Prebuilt binaries<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/darchons\/android-gdb\" rel=\"nofollow\">source<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec\/Android\/GDB\" title=\"Mobile\/Fennec\/Android\/GDB\">build instructions<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> has most fixes from NDK gdb\n<li> integrates Android libthread_db (fixed dougt&#8217;s problem debugging threads)\n<li> has Python scripting support\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/darchons\/android-gdbutils\" rel=\"nofollow\">couple of existing Python scripts<\/a> (or if using prebuilt binaries above, just run &#8216;git pull&#8217; under the &#8216;utils&#8217; directory)\n<ul>\n<li> feninit is a tool to initialize the GDB environment (support for multiple devices, multiple object directories; launches Fennec, pulls libraries, sets paths, and attaches gdbserver automatically)\n<li> tracebt is a WIP stack unwinder that traces instructions to find stack frames\n<li> idea for another tool to parse and integrate logcat into gdb\n<li> other ideas welcome!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Changes to package name and sharedID\n<ul>\n<li> sharedID dropped from unofficial builds\n<li> package name is now org.mozilla.fennec_&lt;user name&gt;\n<\/ul>\n<li> blassey has nexus s full engineering rom with symbols, contact me if you want it\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Startup shrink: nothing to report\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Working on reducing the number of regression windowwanted bugs listed bugzilla.\n<li> concern about <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661518\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661518<\/a> about:home page is not repainted correctly when it comes back in focus\n<li> Beta 6 and RC is on the radar\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_08Aug2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report Aug 8, 2011<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Mochitest investigations are ready to resume now that a solution for the blocking bug 675669 has been found.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> nothing to report\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/is.gd\/ZEOCi7\" rel=\"nofollow\">android_tier_1<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=677332\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 677332<\/a> &#8211; turn off duplicate\/broken n900 tests\n<ul>\n<li> please make sure all tegra issues are tracked in bugs so they can be addressed\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674830\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674830<\/a> &#8211; m-c multilocale horked, due to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=664907\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 664907<\/a>.\n<li> android sdk13 &#8211; still testing\n<li> tegra new rom &#8212; doesn&#8217;t work.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><b>SUMO<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Documentation<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>FF6 documentation updates with L10n; site options menu changes\n<li>FF7 documentation proposals and drafts in progress; quit button, text selection, language picker\n<li>Knowledge base improvements for Q3 goal <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile_Support_Project_Page#Expand_Self-Service_Support_Content\" rel=\"nofollow\">scoped<\/a>\n<li>Knowledge base optimizations for mobile; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.allizom.org\/en-US\/kb\/how-do-i-use-awesome-screen\" rel=\"nofollow\">animated gif tutorials<\/a> to replace videos &amp; wide screenshots where appropriate\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Feedback Reports<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?a=v&amp;pid=explorer&amp;chrome=true&amp;srcid=0B7fWUH4P6OXzMWNjNTIyMWYtMzdhNi00N2QyLWI4M2EtNjM5YzNiMWQ5MTAy&amp;hl=en_US\" rel=\"nofollow\">User Feedback Report<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-08-10#Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">Feedback Summary highlights<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/10-Aug-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/10-Aug-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/10-Aug-2011 &lt; 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