{"id":638,"date":"2011-08-30T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-08-31T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/638"},"modified":"2011-08-30T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-08-31T03:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-08-30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/638","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-08-30"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-08-30<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-08-23\" title=\"Platform\/2011-08-23\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-09-06&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-09-06 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> We are chemspilling for a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/security\/2011\/08\/29\/fraudulent-google-com-certificate\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">security issue with the DigiNotar CA<\/a>.\n<li> This means new versions of Firefox for desktop (3.6.21, 6.0.1, 7, 8, and 9) and mobile (6.0.1, 7, 8, and 9), Thunderbird (3.1.13, and 6.0.1) and SeaMonkey (2.3.2)\n<ul>\n<li> The impact on the old 3.6.21, now 3.6.22 schedule are TBD\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> More Lion theme work by Dao, Markus and Stephen: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=681425\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 681425<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680256\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 680256<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=681974\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 681974<\/a>\n<li> Continued work by Paolo Amadini on new download manager UI: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=564934\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 564934<\/a> \/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663772\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663772<\/a>\n<li> Continued work by Jez Ng and Paul O&#8217;Shanessy on sessionstore e10s: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516755\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 516755<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Initial style inspector patch landed on fx-team. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582596\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 582596<\/a>, improvements incoming.\n<li> Console API storage patches landed.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Posted a thread to dev.platform on getting rid of dev.performance\n<li> Collection of general bugs related to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=substring&amp;field1-0-3=rep_platform&amp;field0-0-0=keywords&amp;field1-0-2=op_sys&amp;value1-0-3=ARM&amp;type1-0-1=equals&amp;value1-0-1=Fennec&amp;resolution=---&amp;type1-0-2=equals&amp;type1-0-3=equals&amp;value1-0-2=Android&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;value1-0-0=mobile&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=perf&amp;field1-0-0=keywords&amp;field1-0-1=product\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mobile Performance<\/a>\n<li> Collection of bugs related to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sw:mobilestartupshrink\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mobile Startup<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> We think that OpenGL ES accelerated layer composition on <b>Nightly<\/b> builds for Android is ready to be tested by technical users.\n<ul>\n<li> There are still some known minor rendering glitches when pinch-zooming or panning; single frames are drawn at the wrong scale.\n<li> Apparently, Adreno-based handhelds (like the Nexus One) freeze when using GL-accelerated layers; maybe don&#8217;t try it on those phones.\n<li> To turn it on, set <code>layers.acceleration.disabled<\/code> to <code>false<\/code> and <code>layers.acceleration.force-enabled<\/code> to <code>true<\/code> in <code>about:config<\/code>, and restart your browser.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Type Inference has landed!\n<ul>\n<li> This is Brian Hackett&#8217;s work + some help from contributor Jan de Mooij\n<li> 30% improvement on V8-v6 benchmark\n<li> Even more on Kraken, fast on lots of other stuff too\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Formed the IonMonkey project team, already emailed about this\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> More 3D transforms stuff landed, some more to come before we can try turning it on by default (mattwoodrow)\n<ul>\n<li> Discovered an interesting regression on Facebook where they feed -webkit properties to any browser that Modernizr says supports 3D transforms\u00a0\ud83d\ude41\n<\/ul>\n<li> Jonathan Kew persuaded some authors of TeX hyphenation dictionaries to relicense their dictionaries to be a bit more liberal, so we will ship dictionaries for some more languages\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Team status:\n<ul>\n<li> dbaron: review hell, investigating mobile text resizing\n<li> dholbert: CSS3 flexbox\n<li> matspal, tnikkel: bug fixing\n<li> fantasai: getting started on page-break-*\n<li> jfkthame: bug fixing, patches for Graphite font support\n<li> jwatt: converting SVG code to use display lists and be more like other layout code\n<li> heycam: WebIDL, reworking SVG text to use CSS layout\n<li> smontagu: implementing &lt;bdi&gt; and unicode-bidi:isolate\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed support for temporal media fragment URIs (e.g. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/example.com\/video.ogg#t=10,20\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/example.com\/video.ogg#t=10,20<\/a>) (doublec)\n<ul>\n<li> UI piece (changes to built-in controls) still needs to land\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Team status:\n<ul>\n<li> doublec: bug fixing\n<li> kinetik: tidying up libcubeb sound library for review\n<li> karl: reviews, tuning the lighting in the Auckland office\n<li> cpearce: fixing remaining issues with fullscreen API (such as multiprocess support)\n<li> rgiles: starting on WebVTT subtitles\n<li> derf, jmvalin: Opus work, WebRTC standards discussion, WebRTC demo hacking\n<li> rjesup: WebRTC\n<li> roc: MediaStreams processing infrastructure\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/WebAPI\/WebSMS\" title=\"WebAPI\/WebSMS\">WebSMS<\/a> (can now delete stored messages). Runs on Android and B2G\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/WebAPI\/WebUSB\" title=\"WebAPI\/WebUSB\">WebUSB<\/a> is coming along on windows\n<li> Bent started working on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/WebAPI\/WebTelephony\" title=\"WebAPI\/WebTelephony\">WebTelephony<\/a>. Will only run on B2G due to API limitations in Android\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Pre-honeycomb flash support (click to play) patches up.  Bug 630007.\n<li> Webkit Honeycomb source are now available.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Multi-Process <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Desktop\n<ul>\n<li> <b>#1 Windows crash<\/b>: (TRUNK) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682313\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 682313<\/a>, (ALL VERSIONS) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=672144\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 672144<\/a>\n<li> <b>#1 Mac crash<\/b>: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=670842\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 670842<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Mobile\n<ul>\n<li> <b>#1 Android crash<\/b>: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 663494<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Socorro<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> ADUs Friday &#8211; Migration of blocklist (AMO) to new Data Center resulted in missing some ADUs (note the wacky numbers for Friday). The issue has corrected itself.\n<li> Duplicate Reports &#8211; Algorithm for dupes in Socorro probably needs follow up.\n<li> Missing Bug IDs in Socorro: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=681682\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 681682<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Top Issues<\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Channels<\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Trunk &#8211; 9.0a1\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682313\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 682313<\/a> &#8211; Firefox 9.0a1 Crash [@ je_free | mozilla::ipc::windows::DeferredSettingChangeMessage::~DeferredSettingChangeMessage() ]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682916\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 682916<\/a> &#8211; Firefox Crash [@ XPC_WN_NoHelper_Finalize ]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682974\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 682974<\/a> &#8211; Resolved as duplicate of an earlier bug\n<\/ul>\n<li> Aurora\n<ul>\n<li> [@ RenderTargetStateHolder::PushToDevice(ID3D10Device*, CD3DSurface*) ] &#8211; appears as new signature but is the same user. Will file if volume increases.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Beta\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680927\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 680927<\/a> &#8211; Startup crash in mozcomp.dll with IBM Tivoli Access Manager\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680921\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 680921<\/a> &#8211; malware related\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Other<\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac 10.7 specific crash &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=670842\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 670842<\/a>\n<li> Flash stats\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/firefox.4plus.flashsummary.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Summary of daily\u00a0% of Flash hangs and crashes since 03\/01\/11<\/a>\n<li> Still working on trying to figure out how to get better tools and data to make progress on these <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=637661\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 637661<\/a>.\n<li> Thinking about some session at the all-hands to make more traction on these.\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-08-29\/2011-08-29.firefox.7.0.flashhangdetails.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-08-29\/2011-08-29.firefox.7.0.flashhangdetails.html<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-08-29\/2011-08-29.firefox.9.0a1.flashhangdetails.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-08-29\/2011-08-29.firefox.9.0a1.flashhangdetails.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665775\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 665775<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=622140\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 622140<\/a> &#8211; blocklist issue that has been lingering since about June. It accounts for a significant volume of crashes so we are working on getting this resolved.\n<li> Working on a couple of session proposals for the all-hands related to crashes.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Naoki has a detailed report for Mobile &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_29Aug2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_29Aug2011<\/a>.\n<li> Big issue &#8211; really not enough ADUs on Nightly and Aurora.\n<li> A few issues we need to get addressed ASAP\n<ul>\n<li> Still missing symbols for many of the mobile crashes &#8211;  over 40% for 8a2 over 30% for 7 over 45% for release 6 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=672287\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 672287<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=679065\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 679065<\/a> &#8211; empty report list returned for top crashes.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Crash Highlights\n<ul>\n<li> Fennec 9a1: at least 81.2\u00a0% of crashers are new (out of 186 crashes); Fennec 8 has a lot of new crashers as well.\n<li> Top crash in 6 &amp; 7 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 663494<\/a>\n<li> Special crashkill meeting today at noon to talk about how to make these crashes more visible &#8211; isolate the high volume reproducible ones and get them in front of devs.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Guest developers for test days (joe)\n<ul>\n<li> Joe Drew did two videos as part of being a &#8220;<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/quality.mozilla.org\/qmo-news\/2011\/08\/25\/guest-developer-for-testday-tomorrow\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">guest developer<\/a>&#8221; on last Friday&#8217;s test day:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/28213202\" rel=\"nofollow\">Introduction to triaging and verifying an assertion bug on Windows<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/28214393\" rel=\"nofollow\">An addendum to that for OS X and Linux<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Others who would like to be test day guests are wanted! The idea is to explain things about your workflow, how to do something that might not be obvious, or any other thing you might want to show to our triagers and testers.\n<li> Contact <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:mevans@mozilla.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matt Evans<\/a> or <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:ahughes@mozilla.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anthony Hughes<\/a> about participating.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blizzard contacting team leads for priorities and feature pages.\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-08-30\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-08-30<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-08-30 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; Notices \/ Schedule We are chemspilling for a security issue with the DigiNotar CA. 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