{"id":639,"date":"2011-08-30T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2011-08-31T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/639"},"modified":"2011-08-30T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2011-08-31T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-08-30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/639","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-08-30"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-23\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-23\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-09-06&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-09-06 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>(current release schedules returning soon)<\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=08&amp;day=30&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, August 30, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mibbit.com\/chat\/?server=irc.mozilla.org&amp;channel=%23maildev\" rel=\"nofollow\">#maildev<\/a> on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>bienvenu<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>No Friend of the Tree this week.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-08-30\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-08-30\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> JB has agreed to take over Project Management of the Account Provisioner so that Blake can focus on other things.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> OpenSearch <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Pilot <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/lxWvTlhZ3D\" rel=\"nofollow\">Proposed Test Pilot Studies<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Protz:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Did more Telemetry-related work, including an opt-in UI (port from Firefox), currently blocking on:\n<ul>\n<li> the privacy policy for Thunderbird being online and,\n<li> Sid Stamm&#8217;s privacy review for our Thunderbird-specific probes.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Gloda work finished, currently blocking on: Telemetry landing, so that we can compare the probes before\/after\n<li> Thunderbird Conversations 2.1 is about to be released, please try out the latest version and report anything suspicious. See <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.andychung.ca\/post\/9563922811\/thunderbird-conversations\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blog.andychung.ca\/post\/9563922811\/thunderbird-conversations<\/a> for shiny screenshots. (Almost 70000 users, w00t!). Lots of good feedback re the newer versions. Did a lot of polish, people seem to appreciate it.\n<li> Leaving Vancouver on Friday.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Privacy Policy <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>The privacy policy should include bits to describe what we do exactly with the user data collected from Telemetry. There&#8217;s a Firefox equivalent that we should, I think, include in our own version.\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Account Summary <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ubuntu Unity Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Breakage on EDS Contacts Integration add-on was due to build problem on Canonical machines &#8211; that&#8217;s been fixed.\n<li> Still keeping an eye out for serious show-stoppers, major problems &#8211; but so far, so good.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> We now have a new channels page for Thunderbird for Earlybird and Beta channels: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/<\/a>\n<li> <b>Next merge date: <\/b> 27th September\n<li> Doing chemspills for 6.0, 3.1, and TB 7 beta because of <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/security\/2011\/08\/29\/fraudulent-google-com-certificate\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/security\/2011\/08\/29\/fraudulent-google-com-certificate\/<\/a>\n<li> For inf about channels, point people here &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 6 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Good uptake so far.\n<li> Has a lower crash rate than TB 5.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 7 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on: Beta\n<li> Released the first beta last Friday, with updates going out on Saturday\n<li> We had various delays this time around partially due to still getting the automation up to date with the rapid release cycle. Should be much easier for subsequent betas.\n<li> Currently working on getting the add-on compatibility bump set up, should be completed next week with documentation for Add-on authors.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on: Earlybird\n<li> Starting to prepare information for add-on compatibility bump, so that we can bump before it goes to beta.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 9 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on: Trunk.\n<li> Next merge date is in about 4 weeks.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> The 3.1 series is going to keep going while we discuss how to work with enterprise users.  Once there&#8217;s a way forward there, we&#8217;ll close down the 3.1 branch.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Release work\n<li> Bugzilla maintenance\n<li> We need more people running on the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/nightly\/latest-comm-aurora\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Aurora<\/a> channel\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/thunderbird-testers\/2011-August\/000059.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">How we plan on changing testing with the train release model<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Tb6, 3.1.12, 7.0b releases\n<li> Next up, 6.0.1, 3.1.13, and second 7.0b.\n<li> PR Update:\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 6 &#8211; Many articles focusing on just us, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theinquirer.net\/inquirer\/news\/2102461\/mozilla-launches-thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/open\/news\/item\/Thunderbird-6-takes-flight-1324664.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/lifehacker.com\/5831539\/mozilla-releases-thunderbird-6-adds-better-theme-support-fixes-bugs-and-little-else\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a>; several articles w\/ Firefox <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.geeky-gadgets.com\/mozilla-launches-firefox-6-and-thunderbird-6-17-08-2011\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>; several articles on Firefox focusing on version numbers, rapid release, and enterprise.\n<li> Thunderbird Beta &#8211; Few articles <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/betanews.com\/2011\/08\/29\/dont-look-for-big-changes-in-thunderbird-7-beta-and-8-earlybird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/open\/news\/item\/Thunderbird-7-enters-beta-1333082.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/security\/2011\/08\/29\/fraudulent-google-com-certificate\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Announcement<\/a> re: Diginotar and *.google.com\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next up:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Scoping out branding and marketing research to help solidify our branding, market segments, and messaging.\n<li> Starting All Hands prep.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=656049\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 656049<\/a> client.mk invoking client.py (via mozconfig) last patch approved!\n<li> working with gozer on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682078\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 682078<\/a> &#8211; Tracking bug for unforking buildbotcustom\n<li> doing chemspill release builds today: 6.0.1, 3.1.13, 7.0b2\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> channel page live @ <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/channel\/<\/a> (l10n still to come, apologies for delay)\n<li> kitsune updated on staging @ <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/support-stage.mozillamessaging.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/support-stage.mozillamessaging.com\/<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> known error in the showfor JS(because we have no mobile versions) I still need to fix that I spent time tracking down yesterday.\n<\/ul>\n<li> helped fix the finnish bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=681868\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 681868<\/a> and some other small issues with the mozilla.org\/firefox merge.\n<li> merged revisions\/cleaned up tb6 whatsnew l10n bugs\n<li> pushed several small fixes to the website, thunderbird blog, fixed some rewrites <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674735\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674735<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=682425\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 682425<\/a> etc\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> This Week <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 7 compatibility bump patch\n<li> fixing the issues with kitsune and maybe pushing it live\n<li> probably a half dozen issues that will come up\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Knowledge Base community contributions:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/blocking-sender\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blocking a Sender<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/configuring-email-aliases\" rel=\"nofollow\">Configuring Email Aliases<\/a>\n<li> three KB article expansions from contributors\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> New MDN contributor: update and expand <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Building_a_Thunderbird_extension\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird extension tutorial<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> investigate enabling <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/feedback\" rel=\"nofollow\">feedback site<\/a> for Thunderbird\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> 17 responses to (from us to them) to contributor inquiry form\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)<br \/>\n(on vacation Mon-Wed last week so no report last week)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1640 new support topics (1591 2 weeks ago) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/b\/b0\/22-28August2011Metrics.png\" title=\"22-28August2011Metrics.png\">Media:22-28August2011Metrics.png<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 6 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird6.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird6.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 7 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; <b>new<\/b>! please edit and add any issues found in TB7 (currently beta 1), starting at beta 1 for TB7 and future releases\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Philipp&#8217;s last exams are next week, after that: Lightning speed ahead\u00a0\ud83d\ude09\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Working on automatic beta releases together with Mark, tracking in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673089\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673089<\/a>.\n<li> Transplanted all needed changesets between comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta. These are now near to in sync and comm-beta contains everything needed to release a beta-beta.\n<li> Working on getting trunk back to speed after ChromeWorkers were re-written <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=678343\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 678343<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Previously proposed buglist from <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Calendar_Talk:1.0_Product_Planning#Version_2:_Together_with_TB7\" title=\"Calendar Talk:1.0 Product Planning\">the discussion page<\/a> is now on bugzilla, see the new <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=prod%3Acalendar%20whiteboard%3A%22%5Bneeded%20beta%5D%22&amp;list_id=1200851\" rel=\"nofollow\">needed-beta<\/a> list, tentatively named so until its clear if we can make 1.0 for Thunderbird 7.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-08-30 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb (current release schedules returning soon) Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking! 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