{"id":642,"date":"2011-09-06T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-09-07T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/642"},"modified":"2011-09-06T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-09-07T03:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-09-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/642","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-06"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-09-06<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-08-30\" title=\"Platform\/2011-08-30\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-09-13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-09-13 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile Discussion  <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Performance Program Wiki: Please visit and dive in with comments.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/MobilePerformance\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/MobilePerformance<\/a><br \/> \n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Thomas: Call to action:\u00a0startup shrink and memshrink are two efforts happening today. We are creating more of a program to help drive current and future performance effort to make Fx on Android lightening fast.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Michelle:\u00a0Performance is the #1 issue for users. More people are complaining about it than flash support\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0Erin: Timeline. We need to be remarkably faster in 6 months.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Startup time is the first priority\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Acctionable Bugs\u00a0Can be found <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=substring&amp;field1-0-3=rep_platform&amp;field0-0-0=keywords&amp;field1-0-2=op_sys&amp;value1-0-3=ARM&amp;type1-0-1=equals&amp;value1-0-1=Fennec&amp;resolution=---&amp;type1-0-2=equals&amp;type1-0-3=equals&amp;value1-0-2=Android&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;value1-0-0=mobile&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=perf&amp;field1-0-0=keywords&amp;field\" rel=\"nofollow\">here.<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.6.22 and 6.0.2 (desktop and mobile) just <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/devnews\/index.php\/2011\/09\/06\/firefox-6-0-2-and-3-6-22-security-updates-now-available\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">went live<\/a>\n<li> 7.0b4 will come out later today with the same fixes\n<li> <b>If you are on the book for 3.6.23 patches (the update that will ship with Firefox 7), please land them on releases\/mozilla-1.9.2 ASAP<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Tim Taubert refactored Panorama&#8217;s WebProgressListener to support e10s, and to improve private browsing support WRT saving tab thumbnails (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674926\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674926<\/a>)\n<li> Kev Needham worked with Twitter to add Twitter search to the Firefox search bar (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=671307\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 671307<\/a>)\n<li> Michael Ventnor is making progress cleaning up and refactoring some autocomplete APIs to properly support inline autocomplete (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=566489\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 566489<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re trying to collect code editor feedback (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/devtools\/2011\/09\/06\/do-you-write-right-to-left-help-us-test-the-code-editor\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> &#8216;font-stretch&#8217; implemented (jfkthame\/jdaggett) &#8212; 4-digit bug fixed!\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Team status:\n<ul>\n<li>  dbaron: reviews, investigating mobile text resizing\n<li>  dholbert: CSS3 flexbox\n<li>  matspal, tnikkel: bug fixing\n<li>  fantasai: getting started on page-break-*\n<li>  jfkthame: bug fixing, patches for Graphite font support\n<li>  jwatt: converting SVG code to use display lists and be more like other layout code\n<li>  heycam: WebIDL, reworking SVG text to use CSS layout\n<li>  smontagu: implementing dir=&#8221;auto&#8221; and unicode-bidi:isolate\/plaintext\n<li>  mattwoodrow: further 3D-transforms improvements (layer sorting)\n<li>  jwir3: finishing animated gif performance issue, getting started on css3 multi-column spec validation\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Zzzzz\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Basic fullscreen API landed (preffed off) (cpearce)\n<ul>\n<li> cpearce now working on UI changes needed to get it enabled by default\n<\/ul>\n<li> Team status:\n<ul>\n<li>  doublec: bug fixing\n<li>  kinetik: tidying up libcubeb sound library for review\n<li>  karl: reviews, tuning the lighting in the Auckland office\n<li>  cpearce: fixing remaining issues with fullscreen API (such as multiprocess support)\n<li>  rgiles: starting on WebVTT subtitles\n<li>  derf, jmvalin: Opus work, WebRTC standards discussion, WebRTC demo hacking\n<li>  rjesup: WebRTC\n<li>  roc: MediaStreams processing infrastructure\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Rafael and Andrew found and fixed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673017\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673017<\/a> which explains some of the mysterious cycle collector related crashes\n<li> peterv found the reason for an intermittent crash seen mostly in our test automation, which is a threading issue relating to cycle collected objects (XPCWrappedJS) being reference counted off the main thread and causing intermittent crashes. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684711\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684711<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> USB enumeration working on windows.\n<li> Progress on WebSMS. Close to having full functionality.\n<li> Team Status:\n<ul>\n<li> Kevin: WebUSB\n<li> Mounir: WebSMS\n<li> Bent: WebTelephony, building B2G on windows\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Booting up our mobile text to speech solution! Eitan Isaacson (IRC: eeejay) has joined the a11y team &#8212; will note his arrival at next Monday&#8217;s meeting. He is in data-collecting-tinker-hacking mode for this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Multi-Process <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Check out the awesome build time charts created by Will as part of the Build Faster project: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/brasstacks.mozilla.com\/gofaster\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/brasstacks.mozilla.com\/gofaster<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b>2011.09.06<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Stub Installer <i>being rescheduled due to reviewee not showing<\/i>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Meeting Details:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tue. 6-Sept 10:00 AM PDT\n<li> 3O &#8211; ORLY\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>2011.09.07<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird Open Search &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Privacy\/Reviews\/OpenSearch\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Privacy\/Reviews\/OpenSearch<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Meeting Details:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wed. 07-Sept, 13:00:00 PM PDT (16:00 EDT)\n<li> 3O &#8211; ORLY\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>2011.09.08<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Safebrowsing Back-end &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/Features\/safebrowsing\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/Features\/safebrowsing<\/a> <i>possibly being rescheduled due to reviewee conflicts<\/i>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Meeting Details:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Thur. 8, Sept, 10:00AM PDT\n<li> 3P &#8211; PBJ\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other details:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> IRC Channel: #security\n<li> Etherpad: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/secreview\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/secreview<\/a>\n<li> Dial-in Info:\n<ul>\n<li> In office or soft phone: extension 92\n<li> US\/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92\n<li> Toronto: 416-848-3114 then extension 92\n<li> Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369\n<li> Conference num 624\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Friday metrics outage<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Data center outage for metrics\n<li> ADUs are missing for Friday &#8211; everything is 0.\n<li> ADUs should have been backfilled but not appearing in Socorro.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Trunk stability calmed down a bit. Still seeing a number of signatures in older builds.\n<li> Type Inference checkins\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/nyYbmc\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/nyYbmc<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684797\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 684797<\/a> &#8211; top crash on the trunk over the weekend but looks like a fix is pending.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=676023\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 676023<\/a> &#8211; duped to another bug &#8211; trying to figure out if it&#8217;s fixed.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=683967\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 683967<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=683753\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 683753<\/a> &#8211; top crash on mac and linux for desktop, high on the list for windows (this one is fixed but still appearing in old builds).\n<li> Other &#8211; A couple of big issues related to dlls\/extensions\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684748\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 684748<\/a> &#8211; dll comcash installs &#8211; high on release crashes (9k+ a day crashes).\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665775\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 655775<\/a> &#8211; DataMgr.dll\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Naoki&#8217;s detailed mobile crash report &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_05Sept2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_05Sept2011<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Request to push to aurora and beta\u00a0: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684599\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684599<\/a> &#8211; crash nsDeviceMotion::DeviceMotionChanged\n<\/ul>\n<li> Top Fennec crashes that need to be looked at\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=683133\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 683133<\/a> &#8211; reproducible regression\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 663494<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Issues in Core but high for Mobile\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/nzxDv9\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/nzxDv9<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>The discussion about web app shells and profiles petered out without a decision by the webapp guys: I (bsmedberg) was under the impression that this was an urgent project. If so, can we get decisions to proceed with implementation?\n<ul>\n<li>For anyone interested in OWA status\/discussions:\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;#openwebapps&#8221; on IRC\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Apps\/StatusMeetings\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apps Status Meetings<\/a> Tuesdays @ 9:30AM PT in CYA:\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-09-06\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-09-06<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-09-06 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; Mobile Discussion Performance Program Wiki: Please visit and dive in with comments. https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/MobilePerformance Thomas: Call to action:\u00a0startup shrink and memshrink are two efforts happening today. 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