{"id":666,"date":"2011-09-27T23:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-09-28T03:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/666"},"modified":"2011-09-27T23:00:06","modified_gmt":"2011-09-28T03:00:06","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-09-27","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/666","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-27"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-09-27<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-09-20\" title=\"Platform\/2011-09-20\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-10-04&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-10-04 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Goals <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-Q3-Goals\" title=\"Platform\/2011-Q3-Goals\">Platform\/2011-Q3-Goals<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Please update status\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-Q4-Goals\" title=\"Platform\/2011-Q4-Goals\">Platform\/2011-Q4-Goals<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Please consider &#8220;mobile first&#8221;, &#8220;how will we use telemetry&#8221;, and\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> We released Firefox 7!\n<li> We did the source migration!\n<ul>\n<li> Nightly users have fun with your version sniffing bugs&#8230;\n<li> Check the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/channels\/2011\/09\/27\/source-migration-notice-finished-mozilla-central-mozilla-aurora-4\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">announcements<\/a> for the particular changeset aurora9 is based on\n<\/ul>\n<li> We have a new release manager! Say hi to Alex Keybl, based in MV\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Dao has fixed one of the more annoying copy\/paste issues with the URL bar protocol-stripping behaviour (URLs selected from the awesomebar should not have the prefix added correctly) (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=668019\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 668019<\/a>)\n<li> (not really firefox front-end, but\u2026) Gian-Carlo Pascutto is making very good progress on switching the safebrowsing store from SQLite to a flat file, to make it more suitable for mobile devices (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673470\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673470<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> The graphics team is planning on having a BugKill day, in which we endeavour to scrub our enormous bug list down to a significantly smaller set that people can keep in their heads.\n<ul>\n<li> If people are interested in scrubbing our old bugs, please contact <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:joe@mozilla.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Joe Drew<\/a> so you can be included in the divvying-up of bugs.\n<li> We think it&#8217;s likely to take the whole day, so don&#8217;t plan on getting a lot of other work done on that day if you&#8217;re involved.\n<li> We also don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll finish on this one day, but it&#8217;s an experiment to see if it&#8217;s useful, helpful and possible.\n<li> More details to come, but we know the Graphics BugKill day will be on Friday, October 4, 2011.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> WebSMS API fully implemented (still needs tests and cleanup)\n<li> WebTelephony radio part is coming along for B2G\n<li> Files-in-IndexedDB, lots of progress on initial patch, but not done yet\n<li> Initial battery API drafted and implemented\n<li> Camera landed preffed off on mobile. Implementation issue keeping it preffed off\n<li> Fabrice will be doing camera on desktop once the mobile part is done\n<li> The plan is for all of the above to land on m-c.\n<ul>\n<li> Possible exception is WebTelephony, but we&#8217;ll likely want to land and disable that in order to keep it running and tested.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Automation <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688762\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688762<\/a> &#8211; fix return codes for remote harnesses, this should reduce hanging tegras\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687974\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687974<\/a> &#8211; adb support for talos\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688604\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688604<\/a> &#8211; make talos-remote, coming soon!\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile Perf Program <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Can Joel or Clint talk to: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=685632\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 685632<\/a> &#8211; Please collect RSS (memory) data during Talos testing on Android\n<li> Also digging into helping Joel prioritize &amp; drive which automated tests need to be fixed and helping with getting the hw lab scalable.\n<li> The focus this week is to create a perf metrics matrix so we can obtain baseline measurements. This is a grassroots effort so that we can create a snapshot of the areas we need to focus on optimizing on mozilla-central in time for the mobile work week. We are focusing on &#8220;Macro&#8221; or observed measurements and will likely use a 7D\/HDMI camera to capture screens\n<li> Still need to land on what the spectrum of reference HW; targeting by the end of the week\n<li> A draft of the matrix which will be ready for circulation tomorrow (wed).\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android Native UI <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/dougt.org\/wordpress\/2011\/09\/fennec-and-native-android-uis\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">DougT&#8217;s blog post<\/a> summarizes.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile Testing Ramp-up <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Testing\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Testing<\/a><\/p>\n<p>meetings Wednesdays at 10:30PST\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Multi-Process <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> 80 New 10.6 test machines (&#8220;rev4 mac minis&#8221;) incoming in the next few weeks. This is a larger pool than before and faster hardware, so they&#8217;ll turn around results faster.\n<li> Old 10.6 test machines will be recycled as linux and windows test machines, which should help throughput for those platforms too.\n<li> PGO being turned off for on-change builds. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=658313\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 658313<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Nightlies will still be PGO\n<li> PGO builds will be run every 4 hours\n<li> It will be possible to request PGO on Try\n<\/ul>\n<li> Tinderbox mail has been shut off completely for almost everything. (Remains on for things that aren&#8217;t visible on TBPL: Spidermonkey, Valgrind, Nanojit)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Security Reviews Scheduled for this week\n<\/p>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\" style=\"width: 800px\">\n<tr>\n<th> Date \/ Time<\/p>\n<th> Item<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Mon Sep 26 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> Stub Installer<\/p>\n<p>How we should implement the verification that the stub installer has downloaded the correct file for installing Firefox<br \/>\n(no link to feature page)\n<\/p>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <strike>Tue Sep 27 \/ 10:00 PST<\/strike> <\/p>\n<td><strike> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:P.A.\/Panel-based_Download_Manager\" rel=\"nofollow\">Panel Based Download Manager<\/a><\/strike> To Be Rescheduled<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Wed Sep 28 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Extension_Manager:Projects:Embedded_Add-on_Preferences\" title=\"Extension Manager:Projects:Embedded Add-on Preferences\">Embedded Add-On Preferences<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Thur Sep 29 \/ 10:00 AM PST <\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/DevTools\/Features\/CodeEditor\" rel=\"nofollow\">Code Editor<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.com\/home\/ckoenig@mozilla.com\/Security%20Review.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar and Meeting details<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Work ongoing for Firefox Share (formerly F1) <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Security\/Reviews\/OWA-F1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Security\/Reviews\/OWA-F1<\/a>\n<li> Beginning discussions for WebRTC (Oct-10)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Notes from yesterday&#8217;s crashkill meeting &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/2011-09-26\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/2011-09-26<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Socorro<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?classification=Server%20Software&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;component=Socorro&amp;target_milestone=2.2.4&amp;product=Webtools\" rel=\"nofollow\">Release<\/a> deployed today\n<li> Has a skip list for mobile that will help get us more meaningful signatures.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> FF7 out today so too early for meaningful data.\n<li> Problem with ADUs on Trunk and Aurora showing up as 0 &#8211; seems to be fixed. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688587\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688587<\/a>\n<li> All channels look relatively stable.\n<li> Most of the issues we are tracking relate to external problems\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684748\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684748<\/a> &#8211; Comcast issue. White Sky deployed a fix last week and crashes are decreasing as people get the update.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665775\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 665775<\/a> &#8211; DataMgr.dll &#8211; Marcia working on checking the list of versions that need to be blocked.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688637\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688637<\/a> &#8211; Mcafee script scan &#8211; monitoring volume.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688895\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688895<\/a> &#8211; Babylon toolbar &#8211; monitoring volume.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688895\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688895<\/a> &#8211; crash nsRuleNode::Sweep\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687991\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687991<\/a> &#8211; mail.alice.it. Not getting reports due to problem with the crash reporter &#8211; this was fixed. Verified it&#8217;s fixed on the mac side on 09\/23\/11. Need to verify on the windows side.\n<li> Haven&#8217;t seen any issues yet related to the Flash release last week but marcia keeping an eye out for plugin crashes.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Naoki&#8217;s detailed report &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_26Sept2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_26Sept2011<\/a>\n<li> Crash reporter issues\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688692\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688692<\/a> , <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686492\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686492<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686800\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686800<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686973\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686973<\/a> &#8211; crash happening in Java layer so we don&#8217;t get meaningful signatures &#8211; around 15% of crashes.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689234\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689234<\/a> &#8211; Mobile is not reporting the graphics data in the app notes field. Probably not working because on the desktop we are only reporting this for Windows and not other platforms.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Top problems we are tracking.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687367\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687367<\/a> &#8211; We worked around this but are now seeing it in the wild. Need to make sure that Andreas knows that this is pretty urgent for Michael to work on.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663494<\/a> &#8211; JP will ask Brad Lassey and his team to look at this bug.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=677548\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 677548<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ nsBuiltinDecoderStateMachine::AdvanceFrame ][@ libc.so@0x15dd8]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661158\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661158<\/a> &#8211; Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]\n<\/ul>\n<li> Triage for crash bugs to clean up the list, particularly reproducible crashes.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-09-27\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-09-27<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-09-27 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; Goals Platform\/2011-Q3-Goals Please update status Platform\/2011-Q4-Goals Please consider &#8220;mobile first&#8221;, &#8220;how will we use telemetry&#8221;, and Notices \/ Schedule We released Firefox 7! 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