{"id":669,"date":"2011-09-28T23:00:09","date_gmt":"2011-09-29T03:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/669"},"modified":"2011-09-28T23:00:09","modified_gmt":"2011-09-29T03:00:09","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-09-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/669","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-28"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/28-Sep-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95346\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95346\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95346\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95346\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<li> vidyo: PB&amp;J\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Released Firefox 7\n<li> Spinning up Firefox 8 Beta 1\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688783\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688783<\/a> &#8211; Back out <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=641836\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 641836<\/a> to fix keyboard issues until <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669995\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669995<\/a> is fixed\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689404\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689404<\/a> &#8211; Revert change to inline settings that broke some existing Mobile addons\n<\/ul>\n<li> Next merge date is 2011-11-08\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Some priorities:\n<ul>\n<li> Stabilize Fx9 on tablet and phone ASAP\n<li> Work on backlog of non-theme bugs we have been accumulating (need to triage)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Get some QA and User testing on:\n<ul>\n<li> Webapps\n<li> Locale Picker\n<li> Camera\n<\/ul>\n<li> Make some decisions on:\n<ul>\n<li> Flash on demand (front-end patch getting better)\n<li> UA\n<li> Featurettes, like the Clear Private Data changes (need to triage)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> tablet UI for fx9 pretty much where we want it; two things:\n<ul>\n<li> prefs\/add-ons\/downloads styling still to latnd (today?) &#8211; get accepted for aurora\n<li> making a lower FPS throbber for gingerbread\/froyo (single core) so that hopefully we can take a higher FPS one on dualcore devices (honeycomb)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Native Front-End <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/dougt.org\/wordpress\/2011\/09\/fennec-and-native-android-uis\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/dougt.org\/wordpress\/2011\/09\/fennec-and-native-android-uis\/<\/a>\n<li> no e10s, but high responsiveness\n<li> 6mbs smaller (RSS) than parent process\n<li> alot less features\n<li> madhava doesn&#8217;t like the name of this project\/experiment.\n<ul>\n<li> [madhava here] &#8220;front-end&#8221; is fine.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Flash <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> platform support for pre-honeycomb is in\n<li> front end patch did not make 9\n<li> blassey and mfinkle to push to get front end in very soon so we get as much testing as possible for 10\n<li> honeycomb work started, ETA unknown\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IME <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Masayuki working on API redesign to make our work easier <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=685395\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 685395<\/a>\n<li> alexp working on patching IME events to solve a certain set of issues <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug <\/a>\n<li> alexp working on keeping IME events in sync <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=653895\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 653895<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Startup<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>A small selection of bugs we are (or could be) looking at:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674651\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674651<\/a> &#8211; nsContentPolicy should skip resource and chrome schemes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689713\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689713<\/a> &#8211; Warm up the DNS cache in Java when launching with a URL intent\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673253\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673253<\/a> &#8211; Delay sqlite usage until first paint\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=651890\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 651890<\/a> &#8211; Avoid relocations when initializing plugin-container\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684878\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684878<\/a> &#8211; Fetch URL while Fennec loads\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Milestones\/7.0\/RC_1\/BFT-results\" rel=\"nofollow\">List of bugs reproducible on 7.0 RC1 caught during testing; no majors.<\/a>\n<li> Concerns\n<ul>\n<li> <b>NEW<\/b>: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689948\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689948<\/a> &#8211; Fennec won&#8217;t reopen if minimized.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689029\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689029<\/a> &#8211; Site is entirely zoomed in on load\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=670694\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 670694<\/a> &#8211; virtual keyboard is not displayed when editing input boxes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686901<\/a> &#8211; ESPN causing flickering\/bad checkerboarding\n<ul>\n<li> needs further bi-secting\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687717\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687717<\/a> &#8211; Mobile Twitter (140 count doesn&#8217;t decrease).\n<ul>\n<li> dev evang? Needs someone to look at their code\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689778<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes are not getting reported at all<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689781\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689781<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes will show in about:crashes but does not get sent to soccoro<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Status\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/8\/Beta\/1\" rel=\"nofollow\">8.0b1 testplan<\/a>\n<li> Awaiting for response for action on a 7.0.1 if needed (add-on issue)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_26Sept2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> production unittests <\/span><\/h4>\n<pre>* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688762\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688762<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689519\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689519<\/a> - cleaned up return codes\n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689518\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689518<\/a> - fixed pageloader\n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686143\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686143<\/a> - need to figure out the jsreftests which timeout frequently\n* would really like releng to pull cleanup and device sanity check out of the official job (less purple\/red)\n* new tests and changes should be on hold until we have &lt;5% failure rate on average\n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689596\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689596<\/a> - fixing missing network proxy in android talos config, should be landing later this week\n<\/pre>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> easier for developers to work with tools <\/span><\/h4>\n<pre>* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688604\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688604<\/a> - make talos-remote - coming soon\n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687974\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687974<\/a> - adb for talos\n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688749\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688749<\/a> - fixed issue with reftest where --ignore-window-size would fail \n* need to consider &gt;1 adb device attached at once.\n* need to figure out what we support for devices; rooted? cp? run-as? os? tablets?\n<\/pre>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> future <\/span><\/h4>\n<pre>* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686807\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686807<\/a> - pull minidumps from tegras \n* <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=685632\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 685632<\/a> - tp4m rss collection\n* xpcshell for tegra\n* webserver for mochitest\/reftest so we don't need host utils\n* pandaboard work\n* add more mochitests\n* figure out more details why we are skipping so many reftests\n<\/pre>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/is.gd\/ZEOCi7\" rel=\"nofollow\">android_tier_1<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> (fixed) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684253\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684253<\/a> &#8211; 6 new foopies\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665891\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 665891<\/a> &#8211; add 200 new tegras to pool.  On their way; we&#8217;ve already bumped our tegra count to ~120.\n<ul>\n<li> (fixed) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689209\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689209<\/a> &#8211; Frequent Android &#8220;Graph server unreachable&#8221; with &#8220;No machine_name called &#8216;tegra-X&#8217; can be found&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<li> (fixed) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689350\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689350<\/a> &#8211; No Android\/Tegra Tp4m data since Monday 2011-09-19\n<\/ul>\n<p>Mountain View power\/network outages this week affected tegra\/n900 stability; currently fixed.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> (open) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689728\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689728<\/a> &#8211; make bm-remote-talos-webhost-* more robust\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> maemo tier 3?\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> SUMO <\/span><\/h2>\n<p>SUMO (37 new threads)<\/p>\n<p><b>Regular requests<\/b>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Flash Player (103)\n<li>Firefox for Nokia\/Symbian (40)\n<li>Firefox for iPad (25)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Mobile SUMO article page views are the same as last week (11941).<\/p>\n<p><b>FirefoxforAndroid<\/b>: (35 total threads):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Themes: Flash player and trouble downloading from market\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 7 Release<\/b>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Andriod Market reviews: TBD\n<li>Input\n<\/ul>\n<p>Praise 63%, Issues 23%, Ideas 13% <\/p>\n<p>42 issues total posted in last 24 hours, 10 are Flash player<\/p>\n<p>Other theme is user agent setting\/confusion\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<p>If you have topics that you think are important to cover at the Mobile Summit, please contact blassey\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/28-Sep-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/28-Sep-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/28-Sep-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 95346 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95346 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95346 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95346 irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel vidyo: PB&amp;J Schedule Released Firefox 7 Spinning [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/669"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=669"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/669\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=669"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=669"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=669"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}