{"id":675,"date":"2011-10-05T23:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-10-06T03:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/675"},"modified":"2011-10-05T23:00:06","modified_gmt":"2011-10-06T03:00:06","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-10-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/675","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-05"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-05<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-09-28\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-09-28\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-12&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-12 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US)\n<li> Vidyo Room: Warp Core\n<li> Vidyo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym\" rel=\"nofollow\">Guest URL<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Kev to come back with a summary of the current state of the ESR discussions <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>NOTE: As of 11:00 Pacific, this update is incomplete. I will update this page by 13:00 Pacific, and will go over missing items on the call.<\/p>\n<p>The response from the Enterprise User Working group has been mostly positive, in that the proposal meets needs. We&#8217;ve also spoken with large software vendors, and the concept of the ESR is something that they believe they can work with. There are concerns around specific sections of the proposal, notably:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> The possible limitation of ESR to two full release cycles (this has been outlined as a minimum, per the proposal, but there is concern that the ESR would end at the minimum)\n<li> Limited access to the ESR via authentication or paywall mechanisms\n<\/ul>\n<p>In addition to the discussions around the ESR, there has been additional discussion around GPO and MSI support, but those conversations are out of scope for the proposal itself, and we&#8217;re trying to keep them separate.<\/p>\n<p>Media response to the proposal has been factual, and has been neutral across the board. In general, the proposal has been accepted as something that addresses needs and shows that Mozilla is listening, but needs ratification from both organizations that deploy Firefox and Mozilla itself. References to various articles written about the article are available below:<\/p>\n<p>CNET News: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20109245-264\/mozilla-proposes-not-so-rapid-release-firefox\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla proposes not-so-rapid-release Firefox<\/a><br \/>\nComputerworld: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9220206\/Mozilla_proposes_5X_slower_Firefox_release_tempo_for_enterprises\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla proposes 5X slower Firefox release tempo for enterprises<\/a><br \/>\nConceivably Tech: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/9442\/products\/mozilla-proposes-42-week-release-cycle-for-firefox-in-businesses\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Proposes 42-Week Release Cycle For Firefox in Businesses<\/a><br \/>\nGhacks: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/09\/22\/mozilla-proposes-extended-support-for-firefox\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Proposes Extended Support For Firefox<\/a><br \/>\nZDNet: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/blog\/hardware\/mozilla-attempts-to-appease-enterprise-users-with-talk-of-42-week-firefox-release-cycle\/14931\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla attempts to appease enterprise users with talk of 42-week Firefox release cycle<\/a><br \/>\nPC World: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/businesscenter\/article\/240441\/mozilla_answers_business_users_with_a_slower_firefox_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Answers Business Users with a Slower Firefox Schedule<\/a><br \/>\nInformationWeek: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=X&amp;q=http:\/\/www.informationweek.com\/news\/software\/app_optimization\/231602080&amp;ct=ga&amp;cad=CAcQARgBIAAoATAAOABAqeHz8wRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&amp;cd=XPpqXFczYYg&amp;usg=AFQjCNGJ7AYiiBMdk_S0Cqs89mhyifNlbg\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Enterprise Support: Mozilla Changes Its Tune<\/a><br \/>\nITProPortal: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=X&amp;q=http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/09\/23\/mozilla-proposes-slower-firefox-releases-enterprises\/&amp;ct=ga&amp;cad=CAcQARgBIAAoATAAOABA04X08wRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&amp;cd=fJZTGc7OL8c&amp;usg=AFQjCNFE9Vn-E56vMtnRWEgSktyhHJWMYQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Proposes &#8216;Slower&#8217; Firefox Releases for Enterprises<\/a><br \/>\nPC Pro: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=X&amp;q=http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2393462,00.asp&amp;ct=ga&amp;cad=CAcQARgBIAAoATAAOABA95Hz8wRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&amp;cd=ogtDLo927eg&amp;usg=AFQjCNGrHdWIwISKHE-5naaSwre8aB7ZZQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox offers slower release cycle for business<\/a><br \/>\nPC Magazine: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=X&amp;q=http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2393462,00.asp&amp;ct=ga&amp;cad=CAcQARgBIAAoATAAOABA95Hz8wRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&amp;cd=ogtDLo927eg&amp;usg=AFQjCNGrHdWIwISKHE-5naaSwre8aB7ZZQBusinesses\" rel=\"nofollow\">Irked By Quick Release Cycle Get Extended Firefox Support<\/a><br \/>\nTom&#8217;s Hardware Guide: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?url=http:\/\/www.tomshardware.com\/news\/mozilla-firefox-browser-wars-enterprise-internet,13509.html&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=0KV8Tp7dOMbSiAKYsvyFDg&amp;ved=0CDkQ-AsoAjAA&amp;q=&amp;usg=AFQjCNHjCfwroXn93Rlz8OvMQog49PQ6iw\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Proposes Firefox ESR Versions for Businesses\u200e<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 7) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/christian.legnitto.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/03\/reminder-firefox-3-6-23-7-0-1-advertised-update-scheduled-for-thursday\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.6 \u2192 7.0.1 advertised update<\/a> is <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/\" title=\"Releases\/\" \/>scheduled for tomorrow<\/a>\n<li> Working on 3.6.24, will ship with Firefox 8\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (8) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Expecting to start 8.0b2 today\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (9) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Add-on compatibility bump is scheduled for next week\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (10) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Seeing bad user sniffing due to two digit version (we knew this would happen)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690287\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690287<\/a> &#8211; Tracking bug\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690391\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690391<\/a> &#8211; Be proactive in impact assessment\n<li> We are discussing some potential mitigation, nothing to share yet\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Top customer issues and plans to fix<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Top three <b>FF7<\/b> issues and plans for resolution:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Performance<\/b>: 22% of &amp; 2 star reviews on Android market this week report that FF7 is too slow. Startup shrink and memshrink projects continue work to resolve, see also <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011#Performance\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011#Performance<\/a>.\n<li><b>Flash player support<\/b>: 22% of 1&amp;2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that they need Flash player; flash player is the top complaint (other than device wish list) on SUMO with 98 votes this week, Flash is the most common issue reported against FF7 on input.mozilla.com. 17% of email sent to &#8216;the developer&#8217; from Android Market this week were also requests for Flash support. Flash support did not make FF9, but there is a prototype in progress, see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=630007\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=630007<\/a>\n<li><b>Stability<\/b>: 11% of 1 &amp; 2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that the browser is unstable: freezes phone is most common, followed by crashes, and lastly it is resource heavy.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Top three <b>FF8<\/b> issues and plans for resolution:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Permissions<\/b>: 24% of  1 &amp; 2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that the browser has unacceptable permissions (phone identity), see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691054\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691054<\/a> for the fix\n<li><b>Support for flash<\/b> is second most common below-average review comment.\n<li><b>Performance<\/b> (slow &amp; unstable) is third.\n<\/ul>\n<p>FYI: 55 people on SUMO reported receiving a fraudulent SMS message about a Mozilla Firefox phone number drawing in the UK requesting an email reply.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/881358\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/881358<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Perf Bugs <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>A small selection of bugs we are (or could be) looking at:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674651\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674651<\/a> &#8211; nsContentPolicy should skip resource and chrome schemes\n<ul>\n<li> Updated patch and found small to no improvement. Looking to make sure all the code paths are covered.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689713\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689713<\/a> &#8211; Warm up the DNS cache in Java when launching with a URL intent\n<ul>\n<li> Need to test\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690903\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690903<\/a> &#8211; nsFormHistory should lazily initializes SQLite DB\n<ul>\n<li> Patch in progress\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691534\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691534<\/a> &#8211; Use asyncFetch when loading files in aboutHome.xhtml\n<ul>\n<li> Landed and requested Aurora approval\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690901<\/a> &#8211; Start building a new profile in Java instead of waiting for Gecko to load\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690898\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690898<\/a> &#8211; Use pre-built SQLite DBs when creating a new profile\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 7 <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 8 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> New permission request added which has caused poor ratings\n<ul>\n<li> backed out on trunk\n<li> need to figure out what to do about scary permissions\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 9 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Requesting approval for some followups for tablet theme\n<li> Requesting approval for some perf improvements\n<li> Requesting approval for some camera crash fixes\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 10 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> More performance work\n<li> Potential new stuff: Phone UI, Reading Mode and Flash\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 7:\n<ul>\n<li> Mitigations are being taken to fix the Sync issues occurring. Expected to be back to normal tomorrow.\n<li> A postmortem will be held.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Firefox 10+:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Desktop\">Improving Sync Set Up<\/a> &#8211; In development\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Push_to_device\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Push to device\">Push to Device<\/a> &#8211; In development. You can play with an add-on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/addon\/send-tab-to-device\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Addon_Sync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Addon Sync\">Addon Sync<\/a> &#8211; In development.\n<\/ul>\n<li> New <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Roadmaps\/Sync\/Client\/Sequence#Inbox\" title=\"Services\/Roadmaps\/Sync\/Client\/Sequence\">Inbox<\/a> for Sync ideas that will be reviewed monthly &#8211; Anyone welcome to contribute\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on Builder <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> upload to AMO launched last week, will be updated today to fix a couple of small issues.\n<li> 1.0 final public release remains targeted for early to mid-Q1 2012\n<ul>\n<li> I will be engaging with marketing as that time horizon draws near\n<\/ul>\n<li> Q4 2011 goals are on the goals wiki under the AMO section\n<ul>\n<li> This quarter is about shaping and hardening the existing feature set for the upcoming final release\n<\/ul>\n<li> KPI stats update:\n<ul>\n<li> There are currently over 8,500 registered users on the Builder &#8211; an increase of almost 400% Q\/Q\n<li> The Builder is currently home to some 15,700 add-ons and libraries, ~2,000 of which have seen significant development &#8211; an increase of more than 400% Q\/Q\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on SDK <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Release (1.1 -&gt; Firefox 7)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Did a post-mortem on repacks process\n<li> posted a proposal for repacks (short term and long term) on dev.planning, addons blog, and jetpack forum (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/addons\/2011\/10\/04\/add-on-sdk-repacks-proposal\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Proposal<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Stabilization (1.2 -&gt; Firefox 7, 8)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Third test build 1.2b3 spun yesterday\n<li> Are moving release up one week to Oct. 18th (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/#!topic\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/e0RkE4zW9ew\" rel=\"nofollow\">discussion<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Development (1.3 -&gt; Firefox 8, 9)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Merge to stabilization will also be moved up one week to reflect new schedule\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Firefox 7.0.1<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Lots of sync complaints around server problems<\/b> (mainly because it&#8217;s distracting)\n<ul>\n<li> Can&#8217;t delete accounts because of a deletion-page error (users try that first when they get errors)\n<li> We may have broken the &#8220;reset your sync account&#8221; fix as well\n<li> Errors about incorrect passwords are not the correct error and often confusing.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Add-on compatibility\n<ul>\n<li> Yahoo Toolbar is definitely incompatible and not fixed by 7.0.1 but I&#8217;m no longer sure about the lost bookmarks tie-in.\n<ul>\n<li> From kev: Yahoo took down bookmarks.yahoo.com, Toolbar is compatible but binary isn&#8217;t which leads to bustage and a storage migration that prevented users from accessing the bookmarks they had.\n<\/ul>\n<li> AVG &#8212; users need to update manually.\n<li> Some norton complaints but getting better &#8212; Updating is slow\n<\/ul>\n<li> Yahoo Mail errors (may have been server problems on their end)\n<li> <b>Angel (a course management software used by a number of universities) isn&#8217;t compatible with Firefox 7, some schools are advising users to downgrade to Firefox 6.<\/b>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673714\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673714<\/a>.  Blizzard is working on this.\n<li> Lots of complaints about java: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?locale=en-US&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=7.0.1&amp;date_start=2011-09-27&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=java\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/880125\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a>.  This may be related to Angel (above).\n<li> Complaints of freezing\/hanging (again, may be more than usual, hard to say) <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/880728\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a> (for example).\n<li> &#8220;XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome:\/\/browser\/content\/browser.xul.&#8221; errors. Caused by add-on updates (may be related to updating from Firefox 3.X &#8211; Firefox 7), may be not.\n<li> <b>Firefox gets stuck and is unable to load pages after a while.<\/b>  Caused by network.http.max-connections getting set to 256 (changed in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=648570\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 648570<\/a>). <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/881844\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<b>Firefox 8<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Videos on Apple.com only play audio (they&#8217;re delivering h.264 content to Firefox builds). <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=528314\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 528314<\/a>\n<li> Can&#8217;t drag and drop tabs into bookmarks: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674723\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674723<\/a>.\n<li> Scrolling on some sites is slower than usual on OSX: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?q=scrolling&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=8.0&amp;date_start=2011-09-27&amp;date_end=&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;platform=mac&amp;locale=en-US\" rel=\"nofollow\">[5]<\/a>\n<li> Lots of Sync complaints here as well: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;version=8.0&amp;date_start=2011-09-27&amp;date_end=&amp;q=sync\" rel=\"nofollow\">[6]<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<b>Firefox 9<\/b><\/p>\n<p>(A rehash for those of you in the Aurora meeting yesterday, but now with bug numbers!).\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Add-on compatibility (in Aurora you get 3 weeks on, 3 weeks off), which is a pain\n<li> Weird toolbar resizing problems: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2411294\" rel=\"nofollow\">[7]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2416361\" rel=\"nofollow\">[8]<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691917\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691917<\/a>\n<li> Problem with closing security exception window (?) <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2414004\" rel=\"nofollow\">[9]<\/a>\n<li> A couple complaints about how we&#8217;re moving tabs around: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2421141\" rel=\"nofollow\">[10]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2420402\" rel=\"nofollow\">[11]<\/a>.\n<li> A couple complaints involving download manager behavior: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2421128\" rel=\"nofollow\">[12]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2421127\" rel=\"nofollow\">[13]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2421120\" rel=\"nofollow\">[14]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/opinion\/2421312\" rel=\"nofollow\">[15]<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691921\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691921<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 10<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Complaints about dropdowns not working with arrow keys: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;locale=en-US&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=&amp;version=10.0a1&amp;q=arrow+bar\" rel=\"nofollow\">[16]<\/a> (probably <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690668\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690668<\/a> but a lot of complaints for somthing that&#8217;s x64 specific).\n<ul>\n<li> Should get fixed after a quick bug review.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>This has moved UP to the Mobile status report ^^^\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX &amp; User Research <\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Still looking for developers who want to watch usability sessions in Toronto during mobile week. Will take about 1 hour of your time from the 17th-19th. Contact Mary Trombley to get started.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Market Insights<\/b>  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Summary below, full update <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Insights\/2011_Week40\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> and in your inbox.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Android approaching 1 million activations\/day as it launches a new version next week and conquers even lower price points ($35 in India)\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Opera extended its partnership with Safaricom, Kenya&#8217;s leading network operator\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> The iPhone 4s was announced, featuring an updated CPU and camera and iCloud integration\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> PhoneGap was acquired by Adobe, who also launched a new suite of mobile applications\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> UC Web, a Chinese mobile browser, prepares to target the US market\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Amazon is rumoured to be interested in acquiring WebOS\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> 3G turns 10 years old. Japan, its pioneer, has a 96% penetration rate\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/10\/03\/mozilla-launches-firefox-7-reduced-memory-usage\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Launches Firefox 7 With Reduced Memory Usage<\/a> \n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20113192-264\/firefox-8-beta-brings-twitter-search-tab-controls\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 8 beta brings Twitter search, tab controls <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itproportal.com\/2011\/09\/30\/mozilla-announces-firefox-8-beta-enhanced-ui-twitter-search\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Announces Firefox 8 Beta with Enhanced UI, Twitter Search<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.webmonkey.com\/2011\/09\/beta-update-firefox-8-offers-smarter-tab-restore\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Beta Update: Firefox 8 Offers Smarter Tab Restore<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/download.cnet.com\/8301-2007_4-20114186-12\/firefox-aurora-for-android-likes-big-buttons-and-cannot-lie\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Aurora for Android likes big buttons and cannot lie<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/asia.cnet.com\/crave\/firefox-aurora-for-android-sees-interface-upgrades-62211269.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox Aurora for Android sees interface upgrades<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9220513\/Mozilla_aims_to_add_silent_updating_to_Firefox_10\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla aims to add silent updating to Firefox 10 <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/10\/05\/mozilla-talks-silent-updates-plans-firefox-service\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Talks Silent Updates, Plans Firefox Service<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Continuing to iterate on product positioning\n<li>Researching approaches to focus on tablet users <br \/> \n<li>Putting together marketing plan for Firefox 9 release\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments, FYI <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions this week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Jen to come back with postmortem summary for sync issues in FF7\n<li> Daniel to report back on re-repack of SDK-based addons after version number bustage\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-05\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-05<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-05 &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Planning Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays) Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/675"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=675"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/675\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=675"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=675"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=675"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}