{"id":676,"date":"2011-10-05T23:00:10","date_gmt":"2011-10-06T03:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/676"},"modified":"2011-10-05T23:00:10","modified_gmt":"2011-10-06T03:00:10","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-10-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/676","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-05"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95312\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<li> vidyo: WarpCore\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Next merge date is 2011-11-08\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Always on the lookout for performance issues\n<li> More stabilizing Fx9 on tablet and phone\n<ul>\n<li> We have been doing pretty good finding and fixing regresisons\n<li> We have a few patches to push to Aurora. More coming.\n<li> More triage on the backlog of non-theme bugs we have been accumulating\n<\/ul>\n<li> Get more testing on:\n<ul>\n<li> Webapps\n<li> Locale Picker\n<li> Camera\n<\/ul>\n<li> Make some decisions on:\n<ul>\n<li> Flash on demand (front-end patch getting better)\n<li> UA (we should just add &#8216;mobile&#8217; to our phone UA, following the Android &#8216;guidelines&#8217;)\n<li> Featurettes, like the Clear Private Data changes, need triage and UX\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Fx9\n<ul>\n<li> The tablet UI is in Aurora, but there are few things we like to see land in Aurora:\n<ul>\n<li> Prefs\/Downloads\/Add-ons screens (as they are in nightly)\n<li> the new throbber, on tablets only\n<li> style revisions to Start Page <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=626528\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 626528<\/a>\n<li> that&#8217;s all &#8211; looking good!\n<\/ul>\n<li> progress on readability, from dbaron\n<li> is there a front-end patch\/build for flash?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Post-Fx9\n<ul>\n<li> new feature page for an Android Firefox widget: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\/Android_Firefox_Widget\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\/Android_Firefox_Widget<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Native Front-End <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> See <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/snorp\/mozilla-central\/wiki\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a>\n<li> Planning to have a prototype for the work week in Toronto (on schedule)\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Flash <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Front-end: Working with desktop team on click-to-enable\n<li> Honeycomb work shelved until after the mobile summit\n<li> Snorp working on clipping and performance issues\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IME <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=653895\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 653895<\/a> &#8211; Cached text and selection indexes in parent process aren&#8217;t always synced\n<ul>\n<li> Have a draft implementation, which seems to work with SwiftKey X, but still has some issues with Swipe &#8211; needs more debugging.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Shelved for a couple weeks while we&#8217;re working on the native FE\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Permissions <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691054\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691054<\/a> landed in beta, aurora, and nightly to remove some scary-sounding permissions (&#8220;Read phone state and identity&#8221;) that we weren&#8217;t using.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=672352\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 672352<\/a> discusses other permissions and how to message them to users.\n<li> mbrubeck would like to write a blog post about this.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Focusing on mobile startup shrink bugs for Fx 10. There are about 32 bugs in the queue.\n<ul>\n<li> Status: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=673249\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 673249<\/a> is a dupe of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686805\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686805<\/a> (incremental zip compression in our linker) and Taras has slated for 10\/3\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Need approval of matrix\/test cases by eng; will shop them around today so QA has enough time to prep for Friday&#8217;s test day.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Bugs <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>A small selection of bugs we are (or could be) looking at:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674651\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674651<\/a> &#8211; nsContentPolicy should skip resource and chrome schemes\n<ul>\n<li> Updated patch and found small to no improvement. Looking to make sure all the code paths are covered.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689713\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689713<\/a> &#8211; Warm up the DNS cache in Java when launching with a URL intent\n<ul>\n<li> Need to test\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690903\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690903<\/a> &#8211; nsFormHistory should lazily initializes SQLite DB\n<ul>\n<li> Patch in progress\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691534\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691534<\/a> &#8211; Use asyncFetch when loading files in aboutHome.xhtml\n<ul>\n<li> Landed and requested Aurora approval\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690901<\/a> &#8211; Start building a new profile in Java instead of waiting for Gecko to load\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690898\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690898<\/a> &#8211; Use pre-built SQLite DBs when creating a new profile\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Concerns\n<ul>\n<li> Recent Camera API issues\/crashes e.g, (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691377\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691377<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691560\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691560<\/a>). We&#8217;ll be testing on other devices\n<li> Locale Picker issues e.g, (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690934\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690934<\/a>)\n<li> Open Web App Issues (i.e, installation\/management API), <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Dclarke\" rel=\"nofollow\">we&#8217;ll track them here<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Status\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/quality.mozilla.org\/events\/2011\/09\/30\/firefox-for-android-test-day\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Aurora (9.0a2) Testday this Friday<\/a>\n<li> 8.0b2 status?\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691054\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691054<\/a> &#8211; Remove &#8220;Scary&#8221; Android permissions\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686579\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686579<\/a> &#8211; Sync immediately\n<li> any other bugs?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Performance testing, test-cases for testing ready tomorrow\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_03Oct2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report Oct 3, 2011<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661158\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661158<\/a> Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663494<\/a> &#8211; crashing occurs when trying to restart after energysaving power down; crash [@ base::CloseSuperfluousFds]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=622992\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 622992<\/a> Fennec crash in base::CloseSuperfluousFds\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687367\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687367<\/a> &#8211; Bionic domain name functions are not thread-safe on pre-3.0 Android\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691073\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691073<\/a> &#8211; crash while running jsreftests on my tegra &#8211; NEED HELP\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691425\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691425<\/a> &#8211; minidump collection and processing in automation to be landed shortly\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691349\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691349<\/a> &#8211; Reftest OpenGL tests for Android coming online in the near future!\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/is.gd\/ZEOCi7\" rel=\"nofollow\">android_tier_1<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> we&#8217;re now at 29 open android tier 1 bugs, even though we&#8217;re the greenest we&#8217;ve been in ages.\n<ul>\n<li> we welcome any help here\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> (fixed) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690496\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690496<\/a> &#8211; n900 talos broken\n<li> (fixed) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690751\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690751<\/a> &#8211; tegra power cycle exceptions\n<ul>\n<li> due to differing firmwares on the remote pdus\n<li> bear switched us to snmp in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690464\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690464<\/a> (locked); should solidify our power cycle story\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665891\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 665891<\/a> &#8211; add 200 new tegras to pool: 70 new tegras on their way shortly; will bring us to 190.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689937\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689937<\/a> &#8211; 7 new foopies needed to run those tegras\n<li> philor may be asking about turning off debug android tests soon\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> SUMO <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Fraudulent SMS reported by 55 users on SUMO.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/881358\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/881358<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>70 messages sent to firefoxforandroid@mozilla.com last week, 39 to SUMO.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>25% of low reviews for v8 about permissions\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Completed drafts for master password and add bookmark to home screen articles\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Quotes:<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Absolutely in love with Firefox 7 on Android. Soooo much better than the stock browser.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Better Getting better. Faster than previous versions. Needs support for flash to become my default browser. Keep updating. Droid X.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>After a year it so there is a &#8216;copy&#8217; feature! Nice UX I really like tabs mechanism, fast and nice. I&#8217;ll start using it when you add flash support.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Better than regular browser on my EVO\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Very nice! For quick searches Dolphin Mini, for real Internet Browsing Firefox with outstanding bookmarks sync!\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/05-Oct-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 95312 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel vidyo: WarpCore Schedule Next merge date is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/676"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=676"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/676\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=676"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=676"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=676"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}