{"id":679,"date":"2011-10-11T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-10-12T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/679"},"modified":"2011-10-11T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-10-12T03:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-10-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/679","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-11"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-10-11<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-10-04\" title=\"Platform\/2011-10-04\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-10-18&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-10-18 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Goals <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=657472\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 657472<\/a> to lengthen the time before we prompt for a pending update, as part of <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Program_Management\/Programs\/Silent_Update\" title=\"Program Management\/Programs\/Silent Update\">Silent Updates<\/a> work.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/GFX\/BugKill\" title=\"Platform\/GFX\/BugKill\">Graphics BugKill<\/a> day was last Friday, October 7, 2011.\n<ul>\n<li> We closed 308 bugs out of the 493 total we touched &#8211; about 63% close rate. (There were bugs we didn&#8217;t touch but did open; thus this is a maximum.)\n<li> Anecdotal &#8220;evidence&#8221; says that older bugs were closed with a higher frequency than newer bugs.\n<li> We found some patches that had languished for 4+ years, many without review requests (i.e., a failure on our part to notice them).\n<li> We found other bugs that had languished for a long time for no good reason, and created patches for them.\n<li> Still TBD: where we go from here for our remaining 2000+ bugs.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> New DOM bindings for NodeList and friends landed! (peterv, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=648801\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 648801<\/a>)\n<li> malloc() call site responsible for 3% of our mallocs found and eliminated. (jlebar, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688619\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688619<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Initial patches for camera on desktop.\n<li> Have reproducable testcase for appcache bug!\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Native UI Status Update <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/NativeUI\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> using birch twig\n<li> `front end` team formed\n<\/ul>\n<li> Flash work progressing, expected to be &#8220;usable&#8221; in nightlies (on phones) this week\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Multi-Process <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>&#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/screencast.com\/t\/co0keQy7MjP\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/screencast.com\/t\/co0keQy7MjP<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; What you can see in the video: loading multiple tabs, tab titles, progress notifications, status notifications, mouse (hover, scroll, drag, text selection), keyboard input, focus change, killing the content process, restarting the content process, non-remote tab not affected by process kill<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; What else is in being worked on at the front-end: session restore, context-menu, spellchecker menu, network prioritizer, back\/forward history, panorama. See details at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=fxe10s\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=fxe10s<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Rev3 -&gt; Rev4 Snow Leopard update:\n<ul>\n<li> Testing new r4 machines in parallel. There are 64 machines in production, hidden on tbpl. Can see test\/talos results by adding &#8216;&amp;noignore=1&#8217; to tbpl.\n<li> When r4 machines are known to be good, will turn off r3 snow leopard machines.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Security Reviews Scheduled for this week\n<\/p>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\" style=\"width: 800px\">\n<tr>\n<th> Date \/ Time<\/p>\n<th> Item<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Mon Oct 10 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> WebRTC Discussion<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Wed Oct 12 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> JetPack<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Thu Oct 13 \/ 10:00 AM PST <\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:P.A.\/Panel-based_Download_Manager\" rel=\"nofollow\">Panel Based Download Manager<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Thu Oct 13 \/ 11:00 AM PST <\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Windows_Service_Silent_Update\" rel=\"nofollow\">Silent Updates Service<\/a> \/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Silent_Update_OS_Dialogs\" rel=\"nofollow\">Silent Update OS Dialogs<\/a><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<p><b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.com\/home\/ckoenig@mozilla.com\/Security%20Review.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar and Meeting details<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Working with PR on response to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/yourbrowsermatters.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">yourbrowsermatters.org<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Socorro<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Kairo meeting regularly with Laura to discuss priorities, progress and new issues.\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/Plan\/Priorities#Q4.2F2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/Plan\/Priorities#Q4.2F2011<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Crash graph been fairly quiet &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/daily?p=Firefox&amp;v\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/daily?p=Firefox&amp;v<\/a>[]=.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Trunk\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693467\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693467<\/a> Firefox 10.0a1 Crash @ mozilla::plugins::PluginModuleParent\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693655\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693655<\/a> Firefox 10.0a1 Crash [@ nsDocAccessible::AnchorJump() ]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693658\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693658<\/a> Firefox 10.0a1 Crash Report [@ mozilla::a11y::FocusManager::ProcessFocusEvent(AccEvent*) ]\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 7\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688637\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688637<\/a> &#8211; Blocklist in place for 14.4.0 version. McAfee advises they have shipped a 14.4.1 update to remedy this issue. This signature is no longer at the top of the 7.0.1 stats (#41 in browser crashes)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690877\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690877<\/a> Roboform Toolbar crash &#8211; they released an update so this signature is now dropping.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689738\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689738<\/a> Kaspersky Password Manager\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680927\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 680927<\/a> Oracle Enterprise, F5 Networks, Passlogix V-GO, IBM Tivoli Access Manager SSO\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680274\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 680274<\/a> Firefox Crash [@ JS_GetGlobalObject ] with Norton&#8217;s software\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Crashes by component\n<ul>\n<li> Kairo experimenting with grouping crashes per component.\n<li> Sample report &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-10-09\/2011-10-09.firefox.beta.8.0.components.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2011-10-09\/2011-10-09.firefox.beta.8.0.components.html<\/a>.\n<li> This is a work in progress so still tuning the algorithm.\n<li> Working towards a more detailed dashboard.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Flash\n<ul>\n<li> Several reports from input that there are problems with Flash.\n<li> Trying to get some data correlating this to Flash 11.\n<li> Doing a review of the Flash problems to track changes in signatures and prepare a list for Adobe.\n<li> Have a reproducible Flash hang &#8211; working on trying to figure out if that can help diagnose some of these problems.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Detailed weekly report &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_10Oct2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_10Oct2011<\/a>.\n<li> Working on better reports that break down the crash experience &#8211; content crashes vs Application crashes.\n<li> Also looking at crash experience &#8211; needs some work.\n<li> Analysis Highlights\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689778<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes are not getting reported at all<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689781\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689781<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes will show in about:crashes but does not get sent to soccoro<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692185\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692185<\/a> &#8211; Java crashes are not showing up in App Notes for Fennec Java Crashes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691842\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691842<\/a> &#8211; Fennec 8.0b1 is showing no reports.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689366\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689366<\/a> &#8211; top crash on 9.0a2, will be fixed in 10. Would like to try and get this in for 9.0.\n<li> Top Bugs\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661158\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661158<\/a> Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663494<\/a> &#8211; crashing occurs when trying to restart after energysaving power down; crash [@ base::CloseSuperfluousFds]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=622992\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 622992<\/a> Fennec crash in base::CloseSuperfluousFds\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687367\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687367<\/a> &#8211; Bionic domain name functions are not thread-safe on pre-3.0 Android\n<\/ul>\n<li> Top 6.0.2 Bug\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=677548\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 677548<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ nsBuiltinDecoderStateMachine::AdvanceFrame ][@ libc.so@0x15dd8]\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-10-11\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-10-11<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-10-11 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; Goals Notices \/ Schedule Firefox Development Landed bug 657472 to lengthen the time before we prompt for a pending update, as part of Silent Updates work. 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