{"id":684,"date":"2011-10-18T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-10-19T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/684"},"modified":"2011-10-18T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-10-19T03:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-10-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/684","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-10-18<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-10-11\" title=\"Platform\/2011-10-11\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-10-25&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-10-25 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Platform Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tuesdays &#8211; 11:00 am Pacific\n<li> Warp Core Vidyo Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Goals <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Sending the go for an updated Firefox Beta today\n<li> Next source migration is <b>November 8, 2011<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Program_Management\/Programs\/Silent_Update\" title=\"Program Management\/Programs\/Silent Update\"> Silent update<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta (8) &#8211; Landed change for feature <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Features\/Lessen_App_Update_Displayed_UI\" title=\"Firefox\/Features\/Lessen App Update Displayed UI\"> Lessen App Update Displayed UI<\/a>, dialog display timeout changed from 12 to 24 hours. Over 90% of users should no longer see this dialog as part of update.\n<li> Beta (8) Landed change for releng that allows for hiding the &#8220;what&#8217;s new&#8221; page after update. See feature <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Silent_Update_whatsnew\" title=\"Silent Update whatsnew\"> Silent Update whatsnew<\/a>\n<li> Nightly (10) Feature <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Silent_Update_OS_Dialogs\" title=\"Silent Update OS Dialogs\"> Removal of OS security dialog for Windows<\/a> completed security review\n<\/ul>\n<li> e10s frontend update:\n<ul>\n<li> Drew Willcoxon has being doing good work investigating e10s support for NetworkPrioritization (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=666804\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 666804<\/a> and content zooming (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691614\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691614<\/a>)\n<li> Asaf Romano has been working on e10s support for inline spell check (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693555\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693555<\/a>) and context menu (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516753\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 516753<\/a>)\n<li> Work is still ongoing by Felipe Gomes to get navigation support landed (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=666801\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 666801<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Update on landing responsiveness measurement code?\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Update on accelerated layers for Mobile &#8211; still needed in the new model?\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> (dbaron, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=627842\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 627842<\/a>) &#8211; Mobile Readability started on-device testing\n<li> (jkew, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=631479\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 631479<\/a>) &#8211; Graphite fonts implemented (needs code review)\n<li> (dholbert, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=666041\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 666041<\/a>) &#8211; Flexbox patches WIP (been updating per recent-ish changes to spec); requesting review on first-pass patches within a week or two.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Camera for Fennec being rewritten for Java frontend (will use built-in camera app)\n<li> Close to having camera backend on mac building. This is the RTC team&#8217;s code with the appropriate parts broken out. Build system issues is the main hurdle.\n<li> IndexedDB making progress but nothing landed yet.\n<li> AppCache somewhat &#8220;unknown&#8221;. It appears that we&#8217;re implementing spec correctly but people are using it wrong.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Investigating weird Talos Regressions for &#8216;a11y MozAfterPaint&#8217; on Linux x64 Mozilla-Inbound-Non-PGO\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Multi-Process <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Several features are in the Review Needed stage, if you are listed as an Prod Mgr or Lead Engr please help us and schedule with curtis for a reivew date or work with the resource assigned to you.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Security\/Radar#Review_Needed\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Security\/Radar#Review_Needed<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Security Reviews Scheduled for this week\n<\/p>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\" style=\"width: 800px\">\n<tr>\n<th> Date \/ Time<\/p>\n<th> Item<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Mon Oct 17 \/ 10:00 PST<\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/Features\/SPDY\" title=\"Platform\/Features\/SPDY\">SPDY<\/a> &amp; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=528288\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 528288<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Wed Oct 19 \/ 13:00 PST<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675822\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675822<\/a> First sync desktop status page with upload progress bar<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Fri Oct 22 \/ 10:00 AM PST<\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/Features\/safebrowsing\" title=\"Fennec\/Features\/safebrowsing\">Safe Browsing Backend<\/a><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<p><b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.com\/home\/ckoenig@mozilla.com\/Security%20Review.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar and Meeting details<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<pre>General Meeting Details\n* IRC Channel: #security\n* Etherpad: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview<\/a>\n* Dial-in Info:\n** In office or soft phone: extension 92\n** US\/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92\n** Toronto: 416-848-3114 then extension 92\n** Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369\n** Conference num 624\n<\/pre>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">New Reports<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/crash-bugs\/2011.weeklybugs.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Weekly Crash Bug Report<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Trunk<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695041\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695041<\/a>  &#8211; crash in nsHtml5Tokenizer::stateLoop coming from grooveex.dll\n<li> There was also some YARR regressions but they seem to be under control with today&#8217;s build.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop 7.0.1<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694966\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694966<\/a>  &#8211; New Roboform regression\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694968\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694968<\/a> &#8211; crash in libvoikko-1.dll. Seems to affect Finnish users but spiked very hard\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694974\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694974<\/a> &#8211; crash in mscorwks.dll with 100% correlation to IdVault.dll (White Sky IdVault \/ Comcast Constant Guard) &#8211; this is different than the other crash that we had\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694624\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694624<\/a> &#8211; AVG Safe Search\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694683\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694683<\/a> &#8211; fsecure browser protection addon &#8211; not a crash, but really bad user experience since the user keeps hanging. marcia in touch with support in their company and getting a copy of the 2012 version to test again to see if the same thing is happening\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695151\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 695151<\/a> &#8211; Silverlight issue\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680927\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 680927<\/a> &#8211; Startup crash in mozcomp.dll with Oracle Enterprise, F5 Networks, Passlogix V-GO, IBM Tivoli Access Manager SSO &#8211; Should we try to do anything more with this bug?\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Weekly detailed crash page &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_17Oct2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_17Oct2011<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> top issue on trunk: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694964\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694964<\/a>  crash [@ gfxSharedImageSurface::Open]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694987\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694987<\/a> &#8211; [birch] change the buildid to be different from the nightly to distinguish it from the nightly crashes in Socorro\n<ul>\n<li> Birch branch crash is listed in the nightly top 10 crash ( mozalloc_abort  moz_xmalloc  libxul.so@0x23268a )\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691842\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691842<\/a> &#8211; Fennec 8.0b1 is showing no reports.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689778<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes are not getting reported at all<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689781\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689781<\/a> &#8211; <b>Some content crashes will show in about:crashes but does not get sent to soccoro<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692185\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692185<\/a> &#8211; Java crashes are not showing up in App Notes for Fennec Java Crashes\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689366\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689366<\/a>\u00a0: has been pushed to aurora.  Thanks!\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Top Bugs in 7:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=661158\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 661158<\/a> Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=663494\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 663494<\/a> &#8211; crashing occurs when trying to restart after energysaving power down; crash [@ base::CloseSuperfluousFds]\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Performance:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Update on user responsiveness for talos:\n<ul>\n<li> Ted landed his fix for the mac 10.5 issue\n<li> Rolling into tools staging now\n<li> Best case estimate (if the changes do not wobble tp5 numbers) we could start deployment in 2 weeks\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>GFX:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Update on accelerated layers for Mobile &#8211; still needed in the new model?\n<ul>\n<li> Yes\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>DOM:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> DOM Bindings Update?\n<ul>\n<li> Nodelist bindings landed, landing was a bit bumpy, but it did stick\n<li> Working through some of the fallout, mostly relating to running with the new bindings *disabled*\n<li> Next step is to start working on bindings for the remaining DOM classes, of which there are many. peterv is starting to do that once he clears out some items in his backlog from getting the nodelist bindings done. Others will help as well.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Networking:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Status update on NPN, which is required for the SPDY landing?\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> App Cache stuff from Blizzard\n<ul>\n<li> Lots of good feedback out there based on real-world experience.\n<li> There are quite a few things we need to do in Firefox in the short term to fix bugs.\n<li> There are also quite a few things that we can do in Firefox to improve the longer-term experience.\n<li> Need to focus on two different use cases &#8211; caching and installable apps.  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