{"id":686,"date":"2011-10-18T23:00:08","date_gmt":"2011-10-19T03:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/686"},"modified":"2011-10-18T23:00:08","modified_gmt":"2011-10-19T03:00:08","slug":"seamonkey-meeting-minutes-2011-10-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/686","title":{"rendered":"SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-10-18<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\" title=\"SeaMonkey\">SeaMonkey<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-10-04\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-10-04\">\u00ab last meeting<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings\" title=\"SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-01&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-01 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>SeaMonkey Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Time: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=18&amp;month=10&amp;year=2011&amp;hour=12&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">18 October, 2011, 12:00 UTC<\/a>\n<li> Location: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\" rel=\"nofollow\">#seamonkey IRC channel<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? -&gt; <b>RattyAgain<\/b>\n<li> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?\n<ul>\n<li> &#8220;No Award&#8221;.\n<li> Please note <i>A person or entity can&#8217;t be nominated twice in a row<\/i>.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(who needs to do what that hasn&#8217;t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.<\/p>\n<p><b>NEW<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>OPEN<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>IanN<\/b> to write the &#8220;Friends of the Fish Tank&#8221; F.A.Q.\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>CLOSED<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Train <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=653424\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 653424<\/a>).\n<ul>\n<li> Patch updated. Awaiting review. Although it looks like Corey has taken over the bug from Callek.\n<\/ul>\n<li> 2.5b3 shipped 14th October.\n<li> Target date for 2.5 is around 8th November.\n<li> We expect at least 1 more beta, perhaps two. The buildbot master being down (went down yesterday evening) may cause a delay or even make us miss one beta. buildbot down is <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695278\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 695278<\/a>). A brief chat with IT indicates it may require a colo-trip. Unfortunately only one person really knows how to administer the machine those VM&#8217;s are on.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extensions Compatibility Tracking <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\">Addon Compatibility Listings<\/a> created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley, with help from some community members like DERoss.\n<ul>\n<li> Recent changes can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat#Recent_Changes_to_This_Page\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\">here<\/a>.\n<li> [InvisibleSmiley:] The External Sources part is still TODO, help appreciated.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Enigmail provides versions for release (AMO) and all branches (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/enigmail.mozdev.org\/download\/nightly.php.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Enigmail nightly page<\/a>)\n<li> Lightning currently provides versions for the current stable release (AMO), Aurora and trunk (both <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/mozilla.org\/calendar\/lightning\/nightly\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">FTP<\/a>) and Beta (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Calendar\/Calendar_Versions\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar Versions page<\/a>).\n<li> The latest Firebug is now fully compatible but still not flagged as such on AMO (which seems to depend on automatic tests being set up and run on the Firebug side, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/fbug\/issues\/detail?id=4430\" rel=\"nofollow\">Issue 4430<\/a>)\n<ul>\n<li> [InvisibleSmiley] Use Firebug 1.9 pre-releases for 2.4 and later (maybe even earlier SM versions; haven&#8217;t checked)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Besides the above, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.x.\n<ul>\n<li> Useful query: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/seamonkey\/extensions\/?sort=popular\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/seamonkey\/extensions\/?sort=popular<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> InvisibleSmiley <b>still needs help<\/b> updating and maintaining the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/FAQ\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/FAQ\">FAQ<\/a> Wiki page. Everybody please help update it, so it stays current. <b>mcsmurf<\/b> says he&#8217;ll help.\n<li> KaiRo created a <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/Features\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/Features\">SeaMonkey Features<\/a> page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.\n<li> We need to get the Addon Compatibility page finished and better communicate how to keep Lightning and Enigmail updated since unfortunately the only versions provided on AMO are for the current stable release. People keep coming back reporting that e.g. Lightning stopped working on trunk, Aurora or Beta. But since it contains binary components, Lightning easily breaks if you don&#8217;t retrieve the matching install file yourself.\n<ul>\n<li> [InvisibleSmiley] AMO currently has a Lightning version compatible with SM Beta (1.0rc1)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We should also add some information on this to the release notes of future betas.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 2.x (Last, Current, Next) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 2.x Follow-ups and Issues <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Moved to <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:2.x-followup\" title=\"SeaMonkey:2.x-followup\">a separate page<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 2.4 <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey24&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">open tracking<\/a> (0)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?&amp;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey24&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">tracking requests<\/a> (0)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;target_milestone=seamonkey2.4\" rel=\"nofollow\">targeted<\/a> (0)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_status_seamonkey23&amp;type0-1-0=substring&amp;value0-4-0=fixed&amp;list_id=1409055&amp;field0-1-0=cf_status_seamonkey24&amp;field0-0-0=target_milestone&amp;type0-4-0=notsubstring&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;value0-3-0=fixed&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;value0-2-0=seamonkey2.3%20seamonkey2.2%20seamonkey2.1%20seamonkey2.0&amp;value0-1-0=fixed&amp;type0-3-0=notsubstring&amp;field0-2-0=target_milestone&amp;field0-4-0=cf_status_seamonkey22&amp;type0-0-0=anywordssubstr&amp;value0-0-0=seamonkey2.4%20seamonkey2.5%20seamonkey2.6&amp;type0-2-0=nowordssubstr\" rel=\"nofollow\">fixed<\/a> (26)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> The <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/Features\/2.4\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/Features\/2.4\">New 2.4 Features<\/a> page has a comprehensive list of features.\n<li> 2.4.x had ~77,100 ADU yesterday and 2.4.1 has had ~136,100 downloads so far.\n<ul>\n<li> vs. 10,656 on 2.3, 4,986 on 2.2, 1,685 on 2.1 and 30,882 on 2.0. So, in the last two weeks, ~2.5k have migrated to 2.3 and above.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 2.Next <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> We need to make sure that anything that landed on comm-beta (for TB) or mozilla-beta (for FF) which affected non-shared code and which fixed regressions will be fixed on our side, too. Please mark bugs we feel *need* to land on a particular train tracking+ or tracking? so that when I go to do a release I can be sure I don&#8217;t miss anything.\n<ul>\n<li> We also need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. Also keep an eye on and prioritize bugs to be ported from FF\/TB that land on branches (Aurora, Beta). We need to keep an eye especially on Session Restore, Sync, Tabbrowser and Address Book.\n<li> We have to be careful not to break code shared with Thunderbird, otherwise patches might have to be backed out of string frozen repositories.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Please help updating the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/Features\/2.5\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/Features\/2.5\">New 2.5 Features<\/a> page as we go.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feature List, Planning <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/dev.seamonkey.at\/#bugstats\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug statistics<\/a> for last two (full) weeks: 45 new, 21 fixed, 55 triaged.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Good triage effort!\n<li> Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/report.cgi?query_format=report-table&amp;format=table&amp;action=wrap&amp;x_axis_field=bug_status&amp;y_axis_field=component&amp;product=SeaMonkey&amp;resolution=---\" rel=\"nofollow\">component bug counts<\/a>, pick yours!\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/chart.cgi?category=-All-&amp;subcategory=-All-&amp;name=1183&amp;label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&amp;line0=1928&amp;label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&amp;line1=1929&amp;gt=1&amp;labelgt=Grand+Total&amp;datefrom=2009-07-15&amp;dateto=&amp;action-wrap=Chart+This+List\" rel=\"nofollow\">Open reviews\/flags<\/a>:<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20\/%20-All-%20\/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&amp;series_id=1928&amp;remaction=runseries\" rel=\"nofollow\">28 review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20\/%20-All-%20\/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&amp;series_id=1929&amp;remaction=runseries\" rel=\"nofollow\">14 super-review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=ui-review%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">0 ui-review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=feedback%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">8 feedback<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Major wanted\/needed features:\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Active <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=606683\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 606683<\/a> Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].\n<ul>\n<li> Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.6 but could be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.\n<li> IanN will need to poke some people about reviews not happening quickly enough.\n<li> IanN has done as much unpicking of Composer\/Mail Compose code as possible in the dependent bugs, so will be reworking his customising patches.\n<\/ul>\n<li> de-RDF <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=654864\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 654864<\/a> has been finished and landed on all development branches, including 2.3. Still to do:\n<ul>\n<li> Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues\n<li> for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669203\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669203<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=477845\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 477845<\/a> Build a standalone (Comm-central) Composer. [kaze]\n<ul>\n<li> <i>kaze<\/i> has done a bit of work in this bug recently. Building on Windows works. Now supports debug builds on Linux if tests are disabled (&#8211;disable-tests). Still a lot to do.\n<li> <i>IanN<\/i> was supposed to help get builds working with <tt>--enable-tests<\/tt>.\n<ul>\n<li> Will look into this once he gets his customization patches reworked.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Needing help, Unowned, Stalled <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Kill-RDF:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=657607\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 657607<\/a> Port jminta&#8217;s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [<b>meta<\/b>].\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=657604\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 657604<\/a> Remove the RDF global object. [<i>serge<\/i>]\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=436794\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 436794<\/a> Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.\n<ul>\n<li> SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449728\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 449728<\/a> Drag tabs between windows.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=477840\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 477840<\/a> Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=477845\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 477845<\/a>).\n<ul>\n<li> kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That&#8217;s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=507841\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 507841<\/a> Port Bug 422814 &#8211; Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=533908\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 533908<\/a> SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=523274\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 523274<\/a> Complete new default theme icon set.\n<ul>\n<li> A <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=523274#c0\" rel=\"nofollow\">list of TODO icons<\/a> is up in the bug.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=526210\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 526210<\/a> Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=548778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 548778<\/a> New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.\n<li> The rest is unowned so far.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=87098\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 87098<\/a> [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.\n<ul>\n<li> Note: Our location bar history doesn&#8217;t and can&#8217;t use autocomplete at all.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=677484\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 677484<\/a> Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=654009\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 654009<\/a> Reply to list: automatically determine From: address\n<ul>\n<li> Note: The actual task here is to port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=45715\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 45715<\/a> &#8220;Reply to List&#8221; [button\/(context) menu item]\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=664309\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 664309<\/a> Make the built-in ChatZilla display a cZ icon in SeaMonkey (now <i>helpwanted<\/i>)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable &#8211; Personal Status Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Status Updates from developers &#8211; what are you working on, what&#8217;s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aqualon <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> asrail <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Callek <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Brought much of our seamonkey releng repo&#8217;s to tip of default branch.\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694738\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694738<\/a> &#8211; Bring SeaMonkey releng code up to date with current default tips.\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=668724\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 668724<\/a> followup &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=654152\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 654152<\/a> broke the ability of all-locales to be read without specifying an path on web.\n<li>Turn on Pulse for SeaMonkey Build Network (c.f. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686802\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686802<\/a>)\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693186\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693186<\/a> &#8211; dump_masters.py should be able to represent WithProperties better.\n<\/ul>\n<li>Had a conversation with a rep from Google regarding Geolocation. (Details soon)\n<li>Investigated possibility to get access to metrics from Telemetry so we can implement that.\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694150\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694150<\/a> &#8211; Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 3\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692481\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692481<\/a> &#8211; Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 2\n<li>Got Jens Hatlak (InvisibleSmiley) accepted\/inducted into the SeaMonkey Council, lost the ball on making the public\/official announcement I intended to though.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> ewong <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Fixed<\/b>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=654966\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 654966<\/a> &#8211; File &gt; Save As &gt; Templates should not be active for NNTP folders.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Needs Review<\/b>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=102275\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 102275<\/a> &#8211; Number untitled pages. (sr)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Working On<\/b>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=78357\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 78357<\/a>  &#8211; Account wizard doesn&#8217;t have place to enter port info\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=670561\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 670561<\/a> &#8211; show profile path in profile manager.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675589\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675589<\/a> &#8211; Group all session restore menu items together.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><b>To Do<\/b>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=633937\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 633937<\/a> &#8211; Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=562048\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 562048<\/a> to suite.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IanN <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691144\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691144<\/a> Open Containing Folder should preselect the file\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694164\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694164<\/a> Fold mailABOverlay.xul into addressbook.xul\n<\/ul>\n<li> Waiting for review on:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=638643\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 638643<\/a> Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js\n<\/ul>\n<li> Waiting for additional review on:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=680805\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 680805<\/a> Share edit menus between Composer, Plain Text Editor and Messenger Compose\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688765\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688765<\/a> Move file menu from editorOverlay to editingOverlay\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690145\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690145<\/a> Move CharsetPopupMenu code from editorOverlay to editingOverlay\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694027\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694027<\/a> Move Editor toolbar buttons from editorOverlay to editingOverlay\n<\/ul>\n<li> Reviewed and waiting for other work before possible checkin:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674942\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674942<\/a> Mailnews part of cookie code still gets built as MOZ_MAIL_NEWS is not configured correctly\n<\/ul>\n<li> Reviewed and waiting for feedback from mobile peer:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689253\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689253<\/a> Update en-GB for Mobile 8.0 (comm-aurora)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Working on:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=606683\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 606683<\/a> Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=639690\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 639690<\/a> [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=657234\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 657234<\/a> Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay\n<li> File\/Folder selection in windows.\n<\/ul>\n<li> To Do:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=639395\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 639395<\/a> Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content \/ content at caret.\n<li> Prefs-in-a-tab.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> InvisibleSmiley <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694506\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694506<\/a> Update SeaMonkey website for 2.5 Beta 3 release\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=674208\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 674208<\/a> Add a Properties context menu option to open the embedded properties pane in Bookmarks Manager\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692765\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692765<\/a> Adapt Modern for restartless dictionaries support\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692392\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692392<\/a> Advanced Search misses all search fields\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693080\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693080<\/a> Change browser.search.opentabforcontextsearch pref default to true\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=665678\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 665678<\/a> Open Add-ons Manager, Data Manager etc. according to Link Behavior preferences (i.e. in a window if the user chose so)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692486\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692486<\/a> Update SeaMonkey website for 2.5 Beta 2 release\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Working On:\n<ul>\n<li> review <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=684537\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 684537<\/a> Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=626949\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 626949<\/a> |Sync UI: Style generic change dialogs like the setup and Add a Device wizards| to suite\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688953\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688953<\/a> Create\/Update 2.5 Release Notes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=693210\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 693210<\/a> Add support for some keys to Advanced Search\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694144\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694144<\/a> Port syncAddDevice fixes from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690532\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690532<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=689428\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 689428<\/a>\n<li> track <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687316\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687316<\/a> (Remaining) Sync changes to port to Suite\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Finally, I also put up SeaMonkey update snippets for linux64 updates to 2.4.1 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692655\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 692655<\/a>) &#8211; so everyone should get up to the latest release now. I&#8217;ve been asked if I could do that for betas as well but I find this too much work to do manually. If someone can script it, that would be a way, but then, we hope that soon we&#8217;ll get the machine power to run tests and localized builds on linux64, and then we&#8217;ll be able to provide official builds with updates right away in the normal process.\n<li>Updated German localization for SeaMonkey and core on Aurora as well as Nightly (except the actual &#8220;toolkit&#8221; parts for the latter) to match the original.\n<li>Also, addressed a number of German L10n bugs on &#8220;select add-ons&#8221; UI (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688080\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688080<\/a>, review comments), translation of &#8220;corrupt&#8221; (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=662763\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 662763<\/a>), and &#8220;beinhalten&#8221; being a suboptimal word (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=686304\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 686304<\/a>).\n<li>More work on updating EarlyBlue and LCARStrek for 2.4 versions, there&#8217;s a bit more stuff I need to check there still, though.\n<li>I also refactored my &#8220;KaiRo.at Mandelbrot&#8221; add-on to fit in-tab UI a bit better as well as eliminating its XULRunner app version and making it be an add-on only. The <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/addon\/kairoat-mandelbrot\/versions\/4.0b3\" rel=\"nofollow\">new 4.0b3 version<\/a> is up on AMO and waiting for reviews.\n<li>As usual, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">my blog<\/a> has more detailed status about my activities, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/user\/KaiRo\/posts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board Posts<\/a> also tell about my next planned steps &#8211; both including my non-SeaMonkey Mozilla work as well.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> mcsmurf <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Misak <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Fixed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=675493\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 675493<\/a> Port  [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=655550\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 655550<\/a> Persisted tab attribute gets lost after restart twice] and one relevant line from  [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=644998\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 644998<\/a> Session should not be restorable after &#8220;Clear Recent History&#8221;].\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mnyromyr <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Working on:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=356742\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 356742<\/a> [cocoa] Sheets are offscreen if opened when all windows closed (attached to hiddenwindow).\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=610509\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 610509<\/a> Make fullscreen mode really fullscreen.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> MReimer <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Neil <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ratty <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Fixed:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690701\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690701<\/a> &#8220;Save Video As&#8230;&#8221; should respect the filename set in the Content-Disposition header.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690706\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690706<\/a> Future-proof CrashSubmit against future argument additions.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690778<\/a> Update nsFeedSniffer.cpp (Port part of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=589292\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 589292<\/a> Add contentDisposition{Filename} properties to nsIChannel).\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug triage and Bug discussions.\n<li> End user support and PR in newsgroups and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozillazine<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ricardo <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> sgautherie <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Fixed MailNews Core bugs:\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=690369\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 690369<\/a> c-c configure.in: port bug 557824 and bug 661403. (MOZ_INSTALLER)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stanimir <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Working on:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=576402\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 576402<\/a> Add small icons for Address Book toolbar to Classic theme.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Investigating:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489067\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 489067<\/a> Allow inline background color in MailNews Compose Message.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> stefanh <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> tonymec <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Planning: Hallowe&#8217;en Bug Event, see <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2011-10-18#Any_other_business.3F\">below<\/a>.\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694740\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694740<\/a> Port Firefox <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=687754\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 687754<\/a> |unread attribute set at different times during page load| part 1.<br \/><i>(against my best judgment, but I have it on Higher Authority that this was needed<\/i> \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Tonymec\" title=\"User:Tonymec\">Tonymec<\/a> 05:09, 18 October 2011 (PDT))\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Any other business?  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> InvisibleSmiley has been voted on to the SeaMonkey Council.\n<li> Need to review <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.seamonkey-project.org\/dev\/project-areas\" rel=\"nofollow\">project areas<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>IanN<\/b> will put out a final draft of the project areas list this week, and then confirm that anyone who is not in the loop already has been consulted.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Extended Support Releases (ESR)\n<ul>\n<li> At the moment looks like that will be based off either Gecko 8 or 9 so potentially that will be either 2.5 or 2.6 for us. Assuming we have the machines, we will also have an ESR which might help move some of those still on 2.0 up to 2.5\/2.6.\n<li> Our ESR should use the same branch as Firefox ESR so any Security and Stability &#8220;extended&#8221; fixes for Gecko will be picked up by the SeaMonkey ESR.\n<li> A ESR (Extended Security Release) may not be a given for us out of the gate. Callek thinks we should revisit that, separately, once it is clearer both what Gecko it will be based on, and what MoCo&#8217;s general plans for their marketing\/target\/ support-levels etc are.\n<\/ul>\n<li> We can probably start working on Geolocation. Callek hasn&#8217;t verified all the minutia there yet, but if someone wants to begin work, he can devote slightly more of my time to it.\n<li> Another nugzilla day.\n<ul>\n<li> Previously, IanN suggested that October would be a good time to have another bug day. The previous event, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/Bug_events\/20110518\" rel=\"nofollow\">Operation Nugzilla<\/a> was from May 18th to 20th (Wed to Fri).\n<li> Tonymec suggested the last week of October e.g. 26th to 31st or so.\n<li> Tonymec was to start a discussion in the sm-members list regarding the next bug day.\n<li> Tonymec sent two emails shortly before the meeting: one to reserve #bugday and another, a call for leaders from The Americas and Asia Pacific so we can distribute shifts in a reasonable way.\n<li> Tentative dates and times are 10am CEST (UTC+2) to midnight CET (UTC+1) Thu-Sun. 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