{"id":687,"date":"2011-10-19T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-10-20T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/687"},"modified":"2011-10-19T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-10-20T03:00:04","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-10-19","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/687","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-19"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-19<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-12\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-12\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-26&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-10-26 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US)\n<li> Vidyo Room: Warp Core\n<li> Vidyo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym\" rel=\"nofollow\">Guest URL<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Jen to come back with postmortem summary for sync issues in FF7\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 7) <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (8) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Discussions are ongoing about removing tab re-ordering and tab to window experience.\n<li> Discussions are ongoing about removing support for two-finger horizontal swipe on Lion.\n<li> Discussions are ongoing about the efficacy of our &#8220;opt out of third party plug-ins&#8221; feature.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (9) <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (10) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Silent Update progress\n<ul>\n<li> Ehasan has posted a plan for background updates <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Background_Updates\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Background_Updates<\/a>\n<li> bbondy is making great progress on the service to rout around UAC and Admin password requirements.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Add-ons compatible by default is being tracked in this dependency tree <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692664\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=692664<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Customer pain points and plans to fix<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feedback has returned to post-release levels, but ratios remain constant for top 3 customer dissatisfiers this week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Support for Flash<\/b>: 10% of Android Market v7 reviews request Flash; 138 votes on SUMO ask how to get flash player working; 11% of Input issues for v7 and 20% of Input issues for v8 are related to Flash. Click-to-play solution is in-progress to fix.\n<li><b>Performance<\/b>: 10% of Android Market v7 reviews say Firefox Mobile is slow (start-up speed is most frequent negative comment). Native UI work is in-progress to fix.\n<li><b>Stability<\/b>: 9% of Android Market v7 reviews are complaints about crashing\/freezing\/hangs. Native UI work is in-progress to fix.\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Customer compliments on Beta features<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Master password\n<li>Send performance data\n<li>Permissions removal\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 7 <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 8 <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 9 <\/span><\/h4>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<dl>\n<dt>Sync issues &#8211; The 503 storm of 2011\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Fuel for the fire:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Instant Sync:\n<ul>\n<li>Created unexpected 30-50% spike in traffic\n<\/ul>\n<li> Broken Server-Sent backoff\n<li> Poor server capacity\/health for existing users\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Firefighting:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Infrastructure changes\n<ul>\n<li> DB updates\n<li> Load balancer updates\n<li> Webserver tuning\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> Migration\n<ul>\n<li> Added capacity\n<li> Pruned stale data\n<li> Migrate users from overloaded servers\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Fireproofing:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Better modeling for current and expected traffic on Sync features\n<li> Ops review and sign off on feature pages\n<li> Required system-review for all client behavior changes\n<li> Require reliability metrics and dashboard of these on all channels\n<li> Instill a review of changes and metrics 1 week before merging on all channels\n<li> Fix backoff code in Fx8\n<li> Re-triage of maintenance bugs for any lurking issues\n<li> Blog posts coming from both Ops and Engineering\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 10+:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Desktop\">Improving Sync Set Up<\/a> &#8211; In development. Getting close.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Push_to_device\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Push to device\">Push to Device<\/a> &#8211; In development. You can play with an add-on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/addon\/send-tab-to-device\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Addon_Sync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Addon Sync\">Addon Sync<\/a> &#8211; In development.\n<li> Scoping work for Fennec Java porting for Sync\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on Builder <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Push today @ 2pm\n<li> All Q4 goals on-track &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/2011Q4Goals#Add-ons\" rel=\"nofollow\">Q4 Goals<\/a>\n<li> 1.0 launch on-track for early\/mid Q1 2012\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on SDK <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Release (1.2 -&gt; Firefox 7, 8)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> We released 1.2 yesterday afternoon!\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/Release_Notes\/1.2\" rel=\"nofollow\">Release notes here<\/a>\n<li> Will be running repacker again and will move to the new repack policy of builder-only repacks for the 1.3 release if needed.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695436\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 695436<\/a> describes the change we landed yesterday, necessitating a last-minute respin, to make sure the SDK  1.2 release remains compatible with whatever changes to third-party addon installation land late in the Firefox 8 beta cycle.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Stabilization (1.3 -&gt; Firefox 7, 8)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Merged development branch into stabilization branch yesterday\n<li> 1.3 on-track to release Nov. 29th\n<\/ul>\n<p>Development (1.4 -&gt; Firefox 8, 9)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Development Branch now open for features landing in 1.4\n<li> Merge to Stabilization due upon 1.3 release\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Firefox 7.0.1<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> &#8220;Exc in ev handl: Error: Bad NPObject&#8221; error.  Currently known causes: McAfee &amp; VNC\n<li> Binding close buttons to close browser rather than close tab <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=685225\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 685225<\/a>\n<li> Hangs!\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 8.0<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> A few site-specific things (Google Finance?, baidu?, k12.com)\n<li> Complaints from dragging tabs to bookmarks toolbar\/can&#8217;t drag at all.\n<li> Still seeing hangs and freezing (but <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691509\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691509<\/a> isn&#8217;t out yet)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See mobile section above.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX &amp; User Research <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Market Insights<\/b>  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Coming back, most likely next week\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Summary below, full update <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Insights\/2011_Week42\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> and in your inbox. <\/p>\n<p>This week is mostly about Android 4.0. There is also news on Opera&#8217;s new approach for Android, a report on the Internet&#8217;s contribution to GDP, which reaches up to 6% in mature markets like Sweden, Apple missing analysts&#8217; forecasts but coming back in Q4 and a case study on an NFC security implementation. <\/p>\n<p>Android 4.0:<\/p>\n<p>The browser does not have Chrome branding, but keeps the old one; its improvements include:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> better tab viewing,\n<li> live previews of websites in the thumbnail open tabs list,\n<li> incognito mode,\n<li> web pages load the mobile sites as default; users can request the desktop version;\n<li> Save for Offline features in HTML format\n<li> bookmarks sync with Chrome on the desktop\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nAndroid 4.0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/googlemobile.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/unwrapping-ice-cream-sandwich-on-galaxy.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">user-facing improvements<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> works on phones and tablets\n<li> cleaner design, less boxes and squares\n<li> text input more responsive, spell-checker\n<li> improvements to speech-to-text\n<li> the People app integrates contacts on the phone with Google+, Twitter\n<li> gmail improved\n<li> apps can be grouped in folders\n<li> camera improvements; quicker to take pictures\n<li> new face-recognition phone unlocking mechanism\n<li> 3 hard-coded buttons: Back, Home and Recent apps\n<li> measure and control data usage feature; ability to set a warning for data limit on mobile networks\n<li> Android Beam: transmit information between 2 devices by &#8220;bumping&#8221; them via NFC; 3rd-party APIs available\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nAndroid 4.0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/android-developers.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">developer-facing improvements<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Unified UI toolkit for phones and tablets\n<li>  New social and calendar APIs, Android Beam for NFC-based instant sharing, Wi-Fi Direct support, Bluetooth Health Device Profile support.\n<li> Improved notifications, lockscreen with camera and music controls, and improved app management in the launcher.\n<li> New graphics, camera, and media capabilities: Image and video effects, precise camera metering and face detection, new media codecs and containers.\n<li> Interface and input: Hardware-accelerated 2D drawing, new grid-based layout, improved soft keyboard, spell-checker API, stylus input support, and better mouse support.\n<li> Improved accessibility: New accessibility APIs and text-to-speech APIs for writing new engines.\n<li> Enhancements for enterprise: Keychain and VPN APIs for managing credentials and connections, a new administrator policy for disabling the camera.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.informationweek.com\/news\/galleries\/smb\/ebusiness\/231901044?pgno=3\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 8 Beta: Visual Tour<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ostatic.com\/blog\/firefox-for-android-looks-promising\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for Android Looks Promising<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2394810,00.asp#fbid=ORSf1GBvOcq\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Eyeing Native UI for Firefox on Android<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20120877-264\/new-firefox-interface-to-speed-up-firefox-on-android\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">New Firefox interface to speed up Firefox on Android<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fiercemobilecontent.com\/story\/mozilla-preps-native-ui-future-versions-firefox-android\/2011-10-17\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla preps native UI for future versions of Firefox on Android<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments, FYI <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> hg issues slowing or blocking development past few days as well as 8.0b4. 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