{"id":704,"date":"2011-11-10T00:00:09","date_gmt":"2011-11-10T04:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/704"},"modified":"2011-11-10T00:00:09","modified_gmt":"2011-11-10T04:00:09","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-11-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/704","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-09"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/09-Nov-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95312\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<li> vidyo: Warp Core\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Merge happened yesterday\n<li> Next merge date is 2011-12-20\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> A release roadmap for Fennec Native is coming soon\n<ul>\n<li> Trying to overlap with normal release channels\n<li> Likely release 1.0 from birch\n<\/ul>\n<li> Working on a change to UA\n<ul>\n<li> The big issue is how do we get websites to send Firefox Mobile ideal content\n<li> The UA itself is only seen as a step to get better content\n<li> See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701056\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701056<\/a> for a different approach\n<\/ul>\n<li> Landing of the Pan\/Zoom patch queue\n<ul>\n<li> kats\/cwiis\/dougt\/blassey\/patrick looking a general test failure\n<\/ul>\n<li> Adobe dropping Flash\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Native Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android Platform <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Stand ups<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Suggested format:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> What did you do last week?\n<li> What are working on this week?\n<li> Anything blocking you?\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Snorp<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Kats<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Started looking at find-in-page, then dropped it for higher priority things\n<li> Mostly working on the pan-zoom patch queue:\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed up some pinching\/panning behaviour\n<li> Put up a patch for having per-tab scroll\/zoom information\n<li> Put up a patch for saving\/restoring scroll\/zoom information for the screenshot\n<\/ul>\n<li> This morning: fixed a bug causing crashes on Honeycomb\n<li> Hopefully figured out what was causing the pan-zoom build to fail tests\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue working on pan-zoom issues\n<li> Pick up other P1\/P2 issues as needed\n<\/ul>\n<p>Blockers\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Need to land birch-pan-zoom! Working in patch queues has very high overhead, and generally is FAIL.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">GBrown<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> mobile network disk cache has been enabled (finally!)\n<ul>\n<li> 10 M capacity\n<li> see about:cache\n<\/ul>\n<li> build startup cache at package time: works for development environment, but there are complications for nightly builds &#8212; discussing with ted and jmaher (bug 696095)\n<li> network cache compression: testing, analysis in progress\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> wrap up startup cache\n<li> concentrate on disk cache\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">AlexP<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Investigated IME bugs: 630576, 632538, 696319, 698419, 698352, 697838, 699465, 667619.\n<li> Implemented a WIP patch for the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=630576\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 630576<\/a>\n<li> Finally got a phone with hardware keyboard to work on the HKB-specific bugs\n<li> Submitted a patch for hardware keyboard <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=697773\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 697773<\/a> &#8220;Cannot type in AwesomeBar URL bar with hard keyboard&#8221;, but this broke the touch mode, so needs another solution.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>This week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue working on IME bugs, focus on HKB-specific ones\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Chris Lord<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">GCP<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Last week: Finished popup doorhangers. Doing some UrlClassifier patches.\n<li> Now: Finishing up those patches wrt review comments. Will be looking at bugs. If no more urgent issues, will look at Download Manager.\n<li> Blockers: Nothing\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Brian N<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Last week\n<ul>\n<li>Search engines\n<li>Pan\/zoom dead space patch\n<li>Telemetry opt-in UI\n<\/ul>\n<li>This week\n<ul>\n<li>Finish search engines\n<li>Pan\/zoom\n<\/ul>\n<li>Blocked on\n<ul>\n<li>Nothing\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Sriram<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Last Week:\n<ul>\n<li> Completed the tabs-list as per UI Spec\n<li> Implemented stacking of doorhangers\n<li> Moved doorhangers to the top\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> This Week:\n<ul>\n<li> Landed fixing the &#8220;drawable&#8221; folders for menu\n<li> Working on reskinning doorhangers\n<li> Working on animating tab increment\/decrement counter\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers:\n<ul>\n<li> Resources for doorhangers from Patryk\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">WesJ<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Touch events &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=603008\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 603008<\/a> -&gt; Patches are up. There&#8217;s a build at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.com\/~wjohnston\/fennec_touch.apk\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/people.mozilla.com\/~wjohnston\/fennec_touch.apk<\/a> if people want to play\/compare to others. Report problems in the bug. Waiting for review. Also, the layers stuff breaks the widget half of this in major ways.\n<li> UA string stuff. Happy to let dicussion continue for another few days. Then want to make a final decision.\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Double Tap zoom\n<li>\u00a0? Responsiveness\u00a0?\n<li> More context menu entries\n<\/ul>\n<p>Blocked on:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Startup crash for new &#8216;layers&#8217; builds\n<li> UX for context menus. What do we want to keep? Throw out?\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">LucasR<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Last week<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> AwesomeBar screen as per design\n<li> Favicon caching\n<li> Misc cleanups\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Next week<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Follow-up bugs on favicon cache and awesome screen\n<li> Misc bug fixing\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Blocked on<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Nothing.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">MBrubeck<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Margaret<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Full screen video &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=698836\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 698836<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=688082\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 688082<\/a>\n<li> Started on form history &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695444\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 695444<\/a>\n<li> Started on html version of about:config &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699418\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699418<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue work on form history and about:config\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">BLassey<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> fixed usage of Cursors <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700218\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700218<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700922\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700922<\/a>\n<li> fixed incorrect screenshot after clearing app data <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699716\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699716<\/a> (hasn&#8217;t landed)\n<li> fixed usage of AsyncTasks <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700354\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700354<\/a> (hasn&#8217;t landed)\n<li> fixed screenshot behavior with user defined profiles (for testing) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700917\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700917<\/a>\n<li> added support for overriding package name with test scripts <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700797\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700797<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> help land patch queue\n<\/ul>\n<p>Blocked on:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> landing of patch queue\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">DougT<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> lots of merging\n<li> lots of reviews\n<li> lots of meetings\n<li> Helping land the panning zooming patch queue\n<li> fixed some of the offline mode bugs we had\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">MFinkle<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Done:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> More reviews!\n<li> Landed basic Password Manager prompts\n<li> Close to asking for review on the new add-ons manager\n<li> Banging head on mobile UA story\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Add support for new DoorHanger features so we can finish PasswordManager w\/ Doorhangers\n<li> Land basic add-on manager rewrite\n<li> Encourage some additional context menus &#8211; great first bugs for contributors!\n<li> Get around to blogging\n<\/ul>\n<p>See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/user\/mfinkle\" rel=\"nofollow\">online status<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Madhava<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week:<\/b> Add-ons flow revisions (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/madhava_work\/6310042574\/in\/photostream\" rel=\"nofollow\">done<\/a>), cataloging missing pieces\n<li> <b>This week:<\/b> sync setup and pref flow, prefs, bugs open on missing pieces (i.e. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/6313352808\/in\/photostream\" rel=\"nofollow\">these<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/6312831425\/in\/photostream\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">these<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> This page knows all, UX-wise: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/NativeUI\/UserExperience\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/NativeUI\/UserExperience<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Ian Barlow<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Lots of mocks and specs\n<li> Awesomescreen <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/6303266013\/in\/photostream\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a>\n<li> Tab menu <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/cl.ly\/0s3l3L1O2l1O2d3S3M06\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a>\n<li> Header \/ URL Bar states <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/6305636749\/in\/photostream\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a>\n<li> Menu Icons <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/cl.ly\/3W3m1g3v1l3M1G240m45\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a>\u00a0\ud83d\ude42\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>This week:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> UI Reviews, filing bugs\n<li> Working on new designs for a Start Page, Reading Mode,\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>Blockers:<\/b> Nope\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Patryk Adamczyk <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Last Week<\/b><br \/> + Door hanger designs: updated as per Sriram request included in bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=698598#c21\" rel=\"nofollow\">#698598<\/a> <br \/> + Add ons: created a flow \/ mock up designs with various scenarios and attached them to the add ons bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=696532#c7\" rel=\"nofollow\">#696532<\/a><\/p>\n<p> <b>This Week<\/b><br \/> Supporting dev in implementation if any new graphics are needed.<\/p>\n<p> <b>Blockers<\/b><br \/> None\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Round Table <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Testing<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Talos has been random orange since last thursday. We need to address this. I propose we back everything out since the last solid green (Doug&#8217;s push on Wednesday). People will need to reland their patches after that.<\/p>\n<p>Going forward, we may need a birch sheriff or some other mechanism to make things better.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> P0, P1 features have all been assigned to Test Owners.  Next step, testcases; bug triaging; testday (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/quality.mozilla.org\/events\/2011\/11\/07\/firefox-mobile-native-ui-test-day\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">this friday<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Flash is now on Aurora are we still planning on disable by default?\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Crash report changing from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_07Nov2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">this<\/a> to more <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_07Nov2011_Birch\" rel=\"nofollow\">simplified version<\/a> of Native only crashes.\n<ul>\n<li> will continue to report and monitor other channels, report is just simplified\n<li> If there are any more improvements to make it easier to look at please let nhirata know.\n<li> big crash following the quit &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700720\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700720<\/a> (not in the current report as of yet)  Kats got this fixed.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Performance\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Working with Waverly to crunch numbers\n<li> cTalbert has stuff automated as can be seen in elancaster&#8217;s video; missing part is that it needs to log to a server.  he will have something towards the end of the week.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> (aki)\n<ul>\n<li> Tegras have low wait times + are afaik on par with n900s. Is there anything preventing us from turning off Maemo builds\/tests?\n<li> Who should I speak with re: Android single locale repacks?\n<li> Do we still have a need for linux qt builds?\n<li> Do we need mobile desktop builds on checkin on all branches?\n<li> Now that FF8.0 has shipped, and 7.0 is EOL&#8217;d, we&#8217;re going to close out remaining maemo bugs.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/09-Nov-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/09-Nov-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/09-Nov-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 95312 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel vidyo: Warp Core Schedule Merge happened yesterday [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/704"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=704"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/704\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=704"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=704"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=704"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}