{"id":706,"date":"2011-11-16T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-11-16T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/706"},"modified":"2011-11-16T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-11-16T04:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-11-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/706","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-15"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-11-15<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-08\" title=\"Platform\/2011-11-08\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-11-22&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-11-22 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Platform Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tuesdays &#8211; 11:00 am Pacific\n<li> Warp Core Vidyo Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 95312 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;ve rolled an 8.0.1 with <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699134\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699134<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700835\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700835<\/a>, which is currently caught up in QA due to issues found related to Silverlight and RF\n<li> Our hope is to release 8.0.1 today, if we can iron out the issues\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Masatoshi Kimura has done excellent work fixing multiple URL bar issues (minor issues with protocol trimming, and longstanding character encoding issue particularly relevant to Japanese users), (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700566\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700566<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472669\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 472669<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461304\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 461304<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> As a followup to the meeting we had a couple of weeks ago about improving responsiveness by eliminating main-thread IO, Dietrich, Marco and others have been doing great work tracking down the various guilty parties and finding people to fix them them. Work for the Storage API in particular is tracked in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699820\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699820<\/a>, and Marco has a nice livemarks rewrite in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=613588\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 613588<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Silent Updates\n<ul>\n<li> Brian Working to land Windows UAC service this week.\n<li> Background updates: implementation finished, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ehsanakhgari.org\/blog\/2011-11-11\/updating-firefox-background\" rel=\"nofollow\">ready for testing<\/a>. Started to work with incorporating Brian Bondy&#8217;s work to eliminate UAC dialogs.\n<li> Add-ons default to compatible fixes up for Aurora approval to land this week. Good work Blair.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Telemetry\n<ul>\n<li> UI is being fixed in Firefox 9 (beta) by Taras and Gavin. One change left to approve.\n<li> Will move to enabled by default on Nightly and Aurora.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 8 &#8211; Shipped with Highlighter enabled. Creating a relnote to ship with 8.0.1 to send developers to Aurora 10 with the enhanced hotness.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> GC write barriers have landed\n<ul>\n<li> This is needed infrastructure for incremental GC\n<li> So incremental GC is coming soon\n<li> We could use help finding sites to test&#8211;sites that are hurt by GC pauses or other sites that do a lot of GC&#8211;please send to dmandelin or billm.  They can also be posted in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702495\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702495<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Tracer removal will likely land this week\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> layout and graphics teams in Auckland working on performance\n<li> font size inflation (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=627842\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 627842<\/a>, readability) landed and bounced (misread the try server results that weren&#8217;t showing up on tbpl).  Hopefully will reland soon.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Lots going on with WebRTC &amp; OPUS at IETF in Taiwan this week.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Nothing new to report.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Able to access and dial phone from chrome-JS. Not a DOM API yet.\n<li> Battery done\n<li> IndexedDB: A few more API fixes. Lots of performance improvements.\n<li> First case conductor test for battery checked in.\n<li> Automated battery tests using qemu. (Far from landing though)\n<li> Camera UI getting closer.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Beginning to land parts of the birch project twig back on to mozilla-central.  No immediate plan to discard birch.\n<li> Flash improvements landed on birch this morning.  Tomorrows nightly should have some goodness.\n<li> Patrick Walton&#8217;s (and chris lord&#8217;s, and Kats&#8217;s) panning and zooming code has landed on Birch.  Team working on regressions.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Note that FF mobile is now configured to build with a11y. Instantiated when TalkBack is on. Work progressing.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Will need brief tree closure on Thursday for mobile native UI work. Details coming soon.\n<li> Current plan is to turn on the new android build types prior to code landing on m-c, so there will be burning until new code lands.\n<li> Currently have 110 tegras running tests; after 8.0.1 is out the door will enable another 38. Current wait times are looking good (98% test jobs started in 0-14 minutes), but we&#8217;ll continue to monitor.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\" style=\"width: 800px\">\n<tr>\n<th> Date \/ Time<\/p>\n<th> Item<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Wed Nov 16 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Addon_Sync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Addon Sync\">Add-On Sync<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Thu Nov 17 \/ 10:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/DevTools\/Features\/Debugger\" title=\"DevTools\/Features\/Debugger\">Remote Debugging<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.com\/home\/ckoenig@mozilla.com\/Security%20Review.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar and Meeting details<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<pre>General Meeting Details\n* IRC Channel: #security\n* Etherpad: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview<\/a>\n* Dial-in Info:\n** In office or soft phone: extension 92\n** US\/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92\n** Toronto: 416-848-3114 then extension 92\n** Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369\n** Conference num 624\n<\/pre>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> 63 new crashes logged in Core, Toolkit, Firefox in the past week (both desktop and mobile)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/tQEkPe\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/tQEkPe<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> 11 new crashes logged for Fennec Native in the past week\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/rASKiV\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/rASKiV<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691847\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691847<\/a> &#8211; Bug with Windows Restore still high ~21000 in the last 24 hrs.\n<li> Hang monitor (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=429592\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 429592<\/a>) is close to landing, two issues remain where our existing Talos tests are triggering the hang detector, in one case probably because the slow script dialog is disabled.\n<li> Triaging all the desktop crash regressions &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/sOvf6j\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/sOvf6j<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> New regressions\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701396\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701396<\/a> &#8211; JSC::Yarr::Interpreter::interpret. Top crash on the trunk. A couple of people have gotten it internally. Needs to be assigned.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701399\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701399<\/a> &#8211; JSC::Yarr::execute. #2 crash on the trunk.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702352\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702352<\/a> &#8211; js::detail::RegExpPrivate::decref. Might be related to the Yarr issues.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700288\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700288<\/a> &#8211; mozilla::gfx::BaseRect. Might be a layout issue. Regression appeared in 8.0b6. Shows up in 8, 9 and 10.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700732\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700732<\/a> &#8211; Appeared in 10a1. Marcia provided a possible regression range.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701425\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701425<\/a> &#8211; Only appears on 9.0 starting with build id 20111105042036. Might be correlated to Norton 360(?). Top crash on 9.0b1.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> 3rd party issues\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700369\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700369<\/a> &#8211; Seems to be related to Internet Download Manager\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700371\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700371<\/a> &#8211; Appears in 8.0 and other versions. Seems to be correlated to Free Download Manager\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700493\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700493<\/a> &#8211; Seems to be correlated to Yandex Bar.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700572\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700572<\/a> &#8211; Something Bob Clary found &#8211; seems to be related to Flash 11.0.1.152. Only appearing on nightly (now Aurora) but not on other branches.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701946\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701946<\/a> &#8211; McAfee Site Advisor\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702040\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702040<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702041\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702041<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702042\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702042<\/a> &#8211; New spikes on 8.0 &#8211; looks like they might be malware related.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Firebug related issues logged last week\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701130\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701130<\/a> &#8211; 13000 crashes, mostly on 8.0. A few on 7.0. Logged for 10.0a1 but don&#8217;t see any crashes there.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700761\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700761<\/a> &#8211; Haven&#8217;t been able to reproduce.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700311\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700311<\/a> &#8211; Might be Firebug related.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Creating a home page for tracking Native UI stability issues &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/NativeUICrashes\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/NativeUICrashes<\/a>\n<li> Will be adding graphs, reports on incoming and fixed crashes.\n<li> Naoki working on criteria for prioritizing stability issues for Native Fennec Release.\n<li> Naoki&#8217;s crash report for this week &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_14Nov2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_14Nov2011<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Socorro Bugs\/Breakpad\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702624\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702624<\/a> &#8211; Crash Reporter crashes\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Top issues\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702255\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702255<\/a> [ICS] &#8211; Startup crash\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702619\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702619<\/a> &#8211; Fennec crashes if at least 2 tabs are closed\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702365\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702365<\/a> &#8211; Large screenshot can cause OOM on startup\n<ul>\n<li> Need this to be fixed for Tablets\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694566\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694566<\/a> &#8211; [birch] crashes on install [@ mozalloc_abort __swrite ]\n<ul>\n<li> Need valid STRs\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-15\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-15<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-11-15 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Platform Meeting Details Tuesdays &#8211; 11:00 am Pacific Warp Core Vidyo Room 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 95312 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US) join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/706"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=706"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/706\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=706"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=706"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=706"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}