{"id":707,"date":"2011-11-16T00:00:09","date_gmt":"2011-11-16T04:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/707"},"modified":"2011-11-16T00:00:09","modified_gmt":"2011-11-16T04:00:09","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-11-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/707","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-15"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-08\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-08\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-22&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-22 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=11&amp;day=15&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, November 15, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mibbit.com\/chat\/?server=irc.mozilla.org&amp;channel=%23maildev\" rel=\"nofollow\">#maildev<\/a> on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>andreasn<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/bernd_s\" rel=\"nofollow\">bernd_s<\/a> of Germany who since late August has replied over 600 times on Get Satisfaction (as well as being a moderator of the German language Thunderbird support forum for many years!). Vielen Dank,&#8221;Bernd&#8221;!\n<li> Scott Nesbitt, who organized last week&#8217;s sprint to update to the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/thunderbird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird FLOSS Manual<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-11-15\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-11-15\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/Account_Provisioning\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/Account Provisioning\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Did a lot of polish last week, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700536\" rel=\"nofollow\">patch is up for review<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/try-builds\/mconley@mozilla.com-c423c246ff8a\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">try builds are available here.<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/Opensearch\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/Opensearch\">OpenSearch<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Pretty much done. Needs testing before we hit beta.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/Test_Pilot\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/Test Pilot\">Test Pilot<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Various fixes landed over the last few days.\n<li> Gearing up for an initial study next week, which is intended to test the system out.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Experiments <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Removing this section from the meeting structure in future.\n<ul>\n<li> Ubuntu integration has been completed. Any further updates for the roundtable.\n<li> Conversations is also ongoing and can be covered by roundtable.\n<li> Compose in a tab &amp; Account Summary are ongoing projects that are currently on hold, and can be covered in feature work in future.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Next merge date: <\/b> 20th December\n<li> For information about channels, point people here &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Although Firefox is generating a 8.0.1, the issues covered don&#8217;t affect our users, hence we are not planning on building an 8.0.1.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 9 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Initial beta delayed due to finishing off some test pilot issues and getting tests green.\n<li> Currently there is build problem that&#8217;s stopping win32 repacks being generated. We are investigating.\n<li> Hope to have it out by Wednesday at the latest.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 10 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Now on aurora branch. There are some test failures, waiting on a patch to land in mozilla-aurora.\n<li> Please test account provisioning &amp; open search.\n<li> Account provisioning still needs some work, especially on the server side.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 11 <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No extension of the week this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No QA update this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Now at 7.7MM ADUs.\n<li> PR work for Tb 8 and Lightning 1.0.\n<li> First round of surveys done.  Japan survey completed this week.\n<li> Hope everyone had a good MozCamp Europe. MozCamp Asia targeted for this weekend.\n<li> Getting ready for Tb 9 and Test Pilot studies.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> SSL Clients Certs: <i>gone<\/i>\n<li> MoCo LDAP Authentication: <i>done<\/i>\n<ul>\n<li> Buildbot Admin\n<li> Clobberer Admin\n<li> BuildAPI\n<li> Intranet\n<li> Permissions for some of the LDAP authentication have changed with the move and might need looking into\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 9.0b1 beta currently blocked on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702645\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702645<\/a> &#8211; win32_repack_beta broken due to &#8220;LINK\u00a0: fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file &#8216;mozcrt.lib'&#8221;\n<ul>\n<li> standard8 has a fix, we&#8217;ll start build 2 early today\n<\/ul>\n<li> Progressing on building Thunderbird on Firefox infrastructure.  bhearsum devoting 1hr\/week to help.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No web update this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> sprint to update the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/thunderbird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird FLOSS Manual<\/a>\n<li> new KB articles from contributors:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/send-later-instead-of-send-button\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why has my &#8220;Send&#8221; button been replaced with &#8220;Send Later&#8221;<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/switching-folder-pane-view\" rel=\"nofollow\">Switching the folder pane view<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> working with AMO folks regarding Thunderbird visibility (original issue was monetizing Thunderbird add-ons); on hold as Justin is away\n<li> working with MDN folks regarding Thunderbird visibility on MDN (which has decreased as MDN front-end changes have occurred)\n<li> updating KB site (and various others) to raise visibility of &#8220;New in Thunderbird x&#8221; pages\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1549 new support topics (1121 one week ago) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/1\/19\/7-13NovemberThunderbirdGSstats-2011-11-14_1633.png\" title=\"7-13NovemberThunderbirdGSstats-2011-11-14 1633.png\">Media:7-13NovemberThunderbirdGSstats-2011-11-14_1633.png<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird8.0SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird8.0SupportIssues\">Thunderbird 8 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; Please edit and add any issues found in TB8\n<li> Support Contributors, please add yourself to the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mozillians.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozillians directory<\/a> and tag yourself &#8220;Thunderbird&#8221;, &#8220;Support&#8221; and your city e.g. &#8220;Berlin&#8221;. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mozillians.org\/en-US\/u\/6e0e1eceb3\" rel=\"nofollow\">Roland<\/a>, rtanglao AT mozilla.com can vouch for you\u00a0!\n<li> Love to hear your views on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Stewards\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Stewards\/Thunderbird\">how we can grow the Thunderbird community of developers, support folks, QA folks, documentation folks, etc<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Phillip attended Mozcamp, enjoyed the event and talked to lots of people\n<li> In progress to get rid of all the C code in Lightning!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No roundtable highlights this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>andreasn, bwinton, standard8, gozer, jenzed, rebron, raphael, fallen, mconley<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-11-15 &lt; 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