{"id":710,"date":"2011-11-17T00:00:08","date_gmt":"2011-11-17T04:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/710"},"modified":"2011-11-17T00:00:08","modified_gmt":"2011-11-17T04:00:08","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-11-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/710","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/16-Nov-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95312\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312\n<\/ul>\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<li> vidyo: Warp Core\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Xul Fennec is moving!\n<ul>\n<li> mobile\/* -&gt; mobile\/xul\/*\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Perf Regressions\n<ul>\n<li> Page load?\n<ul>\n<li> mfinkle has <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.com\/~mfinkle\/dashboard\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">data<\/a> that suggests we are slower\n<li> disk cache?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Startup?\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheet\/ccc?key=0Arku3jleCA0UdFNQdkpuWVZIbjBPQ1gxa3RldzF2b1E&amp;hl=en_US#gid=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheet\/ccc?key=0Arku3jleCA0UdFNQdkpuWVZIbjBPQ1gxa3RldzF2b1E&amp;hl=en_US#gid=0<\/a>\n<li> between the 9th and 10th possible regression range\n<li> possible last saved screenshot\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Native Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android Platform <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Flash landed on birch.  Enabled by default.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Stand ups<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Suggested format:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> What did you do last week?\n<li> What are working on this week?\n<li> Anything blocking you?\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Snorp<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Kats<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Mostly working on the layers patch queue and landing those patches\n<li> Spent some time trying to track down the test failures\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Bugs assigned to me &#8211; mostly reimplementing previous patches on top of the layers code\n<\/ul>\n<p>Blockers\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug 696319 (scroll web content input into view) depends on the architecture of the layers code, which is still evolving\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">GBrown<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> bug 700916: can run mochitest-remote on birch via adb now\n<li> bug 648429: network cache compression: sorted out the crash, running microbenchmark to investigate performance issue\n<li> bug 602611: 2-level (memory\/disk) network cache: new patch is under discussion\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> more of the same\n<\/ul>\n<p>Blocked&#8230;&#8221;languishing&#8221;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> bug 696095: precompiled startup cache &#8212; I could use some guidance on how to use qemu\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">AlexP<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviewed and investigated new IME bugs.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=697773\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 697773<\/a> &#8211; Cannot type in AwesomeBar URL bar with hard keyboard\n<ul>\n<li> Had to revert the first workaround fix due to regressions\n<li> Did more investigation, and submitted a new fix\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699792\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699792<\/a> &#8211; ALT key not working correctly on Motorola DROID PRO\n<ul>\n<li> Investigated the bug and submitted a fix\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>This week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue working on IME bugs: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/IME_Bugs\" title=\"Mobile\/IME Bugs\">Mobile\/IME_Bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Chris Lord<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">GCP<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Last week: Fixed some Fennec crasher bugs, urlclassifier bugs.\n<li> This week: Rebase (and review? that would be cool!) of new UrlClassifier code. Investigating Add-on Manager overhead.\n<li> Blockers: None yet.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Brian N<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Last week\n<ul>\n<li> Session store\n<li> Favicon patches\n<li> Preferences loading\n<li> User agents\n<\/ul>\n<li> This week\n<ul>\n<li> User agents\n<li> Session store\n<\/ul>\n<li> Blocked on\n<ul>\n<li> Nothing\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Sriram<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Last Week:\n<ul>\n<li> Reskinning doorhangers, Tab counter animation\n<\/ul>\n<li> This week:\n<ul>\n<li> Moving tabs to the right\n<li> Changing focus color for the URL bar\n<li> More better tab counter animation\n<\/ul>\n<li> Blockers: None\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">WesJ<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Double tap zoom. Landed. Unlanded. Just needs testing.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>This week<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Touch events. Got review. Fixing comments. Working on tests.\n<li> Keep pushing useragent stuff. I think we&#8217;re spidering the web with some test UA&#8217;s?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">LucasR<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Last week:<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug fixing: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=696833\" rel=\"nofollow\">696833<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699793\" rel=\"nofollow\">699793<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=698816\" rel=\"nofollow\">698816<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702306\" rel=\"nofollow\">702306<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702688\" rel=\"nofollow\">702688<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701014\" rel=\"nofollow\">701014<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702962\" rel=\"nofollow\">702962<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=697189\" rel=\"nofollow\">697189<\/a>\n<li> &#8220;State of Firefox Mobile&#8221; talk at MozCamp Europe in Berlin\n<li> Blog post: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/lucasr.org\/?p=2579\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/lucasr.org\/?p=2579<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Next week:<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> More bug fixing\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Blockers<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>None\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">MBrubeck<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed doorhanger code to enable indexedDB in birch.\n<li> Meta viewport work is mostly complete; integrating with new graphics work.\n<li> Beta 9 and Aurora 10 are in good shape; no more active development happening in XUL fennec.\n<li> Reviewed some Meego-specific patches contributed by romaxa.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Margaret<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Done:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Add persistence\/timeout to doorhangers (and follow-up fixes): <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701305\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701305<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700913\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700913<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702386\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702386<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702778<\/a>\n<li>Fullscreen follow-ups: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701771\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701771<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700679\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700679<\/a>\n<li>Favicon regression from layers work: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701285\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701285<\/a>\n<li>Cancel download prompts: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701722\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701722<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Continue working on rewriting about:config in XHTML: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699418\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699418<\/a>\n<li>Lap back to form history: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=695444\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 695444<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">BLassey<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> java-based about:home <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701380\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701380<\/a>\n<li> reviews and code fixes\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> more code fixes\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">DougT<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Worked on moving piece that can land back on m-c\n<li> Thrusday doing the mobile\/* -&gt; mobile\/xul move  (well, some east coaster is going to do the push)\n<li> Starting to look at more sane ways to save the last screenshot.\n<ul>\n<li> May just disable it for now to get the Ts under control\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">MFinkle<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Done:<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Patch ready for Password doorhangers\n<li> Addressed feedback on Add-on Manager\n<li> Worked on porting some add-ons to work in Native Fennec\n<li> Got Zippity (add-on and website) working for Native Fennec\n<li> Updated my talos <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.com\/~mfinkle\/dashboard\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">dashboard<\/a> to show XUL and Native side by side\n<li> Reviews!\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Next:<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Get a &#8220;works good enough&#8221; patch of Add-on Manager landed\n<li> Blog on add-ons in Native Fennec\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/user\/mfinkle\" rel=\"nofollow\">status<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Madhava<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week:<\/b> sync, misc. bugs\n<li> <b>This week:<\/b> sync setup and pref flow, prefs, general misc bug coverage; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&amp;field0-0-0=assigned_to&amp;resolution=---&amp;resolution=DUPLICATE&amp;classification=Client%20Software&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;email1=madhava%40mozilla.com&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=madhava%40mozilla.com&amp;product=Fennec%20Native&amp;list_id=1711280\" rel=\"nofollow\">these lovely bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> This page knows all, UX-wise: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/NativeUI\/UserExperience\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Fennec\/NativeUI\/UserExperience<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Ian Barlow<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Last week:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> UI Reviews\n<li> Working on new designs for a Start Page, Reading Mode,\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>This week:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Same thing\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>Blockers:<\/b> Nope\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Patryk Adamczyk  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Last Week<\/b><br \/> \n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Door hangers: Delivered 9 Slice Graphics to Sriram &gt; bug ref #698598\n<li>Add ons: Delivered colour spec &gt; bug ref #696532\n<\/ul>\n<p> <b>This Week<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Supporting dev in implementation if any new graphics \/ specs are needed.\n<li>Working on some Firefox widget designs (may not be for FF11) \n<\/ul>\n<p> <b>Blockers<\/b><br \/>None \n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Round Table <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> MIT hack-a-thon\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/BirchSheriffs\" rel=\"nofollow\">birch sheriffs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Well attended testday!  Triaged &gt; 50 bugs\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20whiteboard%3Atestday-20111111\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20whiteboard%3Atestday-20111111<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Concern about support for 2.1 I believe every device we&#8217;ve tested has a crash on startup\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701791\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701791<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=699301\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 699301<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_14Nov2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crash Report Nov 14<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If there&#8217;s just one crash that is worked upon atm in time&#8230;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702365\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702365<\/a> &#8211; Large screenshot can cause OOM on startup\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702624\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702624<\/a> &#8211; Crash Reporter crashes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702255\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702255<\/a> [ICS] &#8211; Startup crash\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702619\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702619<\/a> &#8211; Fennec crashes if at least 2 tabs are closed\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694566\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694566<\/a> &#8211; [birch] crashes on install [@ mozalloc_abort __swrite ]\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> RelEng <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> as contingency plan, working on being able to ship Fennec from birch. Should have in place by 14-20 Dec. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=701817\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 701817<\/a> (joduinn)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/16-Nov-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/16-Nov-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/16-Nov-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC Dial-in: conference# 95312 US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312 US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel vidyo: Warp Core Schedule Major Topics for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/710"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=710"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/710\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=710"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=710"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=710"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}