{"id":712,"date":"2011-11-23T00:00:07","date_gmt":"2011-11-23T04:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/712"},"modified":"2011-11-23T00:00:07","modified_gmt":"2011-11-23T04:00:07","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2011-11-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/712","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-22"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Platform\/2011-11-22<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-15\" title=\"Platform\/2011-11-15\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2011-11-29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2011-11-29 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Platform Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tuesdays &#8211; 11:00 am Pacific\n<li> Warp Core Vidyo Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 95312 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel\n<\/ul>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Silent Update\n<ul>\n<li>Removal of OS security dialog for Windows close to complete. Working with releng on final issue. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brianbondy.com\/blog\/id\/125\/mozilla-firefox-and-silent-updates\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brian&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<li>Background updates ready for review and testing. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ehsanakhgari.org\/blog\/2011-11-11\/updating-firefox-background\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ehsan&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<li>Add-ons default to compatible has landed on Nightly and Aurora. Currently prefed off on Aurora. Ready for testing. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/theunfocused.net\/2011\/11\/19\/solving-firefoxs-add-on-compatibility-problem\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blair&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<li> Your help is needed to test these features. Read the blog posts or speak with Brian, Ehsan, Blair, Anthony or me if you have any questions.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Performance\/Snappy\" title=\"Performance\/Snappy\">Project Snappy<\/a> kicked off last week\n<ul>\n<li>Aim is to improve Firefox responsiveness.\n<li>Get in touch with Taras or Lawrence if you&#8217;re interested in contributing.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Style Editor landed this week: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=583041\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 583041<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> font size inflation (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=627842\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 627842<\/a>, readability) fighting with Android crashtest-1 failure (failing with no useful information in the log).  Can land once that&#8217;s fixed.  Once it lands it&#8217;ll probably need tuning related to feedback on how it behaves on different individual Web pages.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> DOM <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Lots of good cycle collector related work going on to better understand how to deal with huge graphs that end up causing long cc pauses (mccr8, smaug)\n<li> View-source changes landed, we&#8217;re now no longer using the old parser for view source (hsivonen, smaug)\n<li> Landed HTML support for XHR (hsivonen)\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebAPI <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Camera\n<ul>\n<li> Have most UI drafts.\n<li> Getting help with windows build stuff to get webrtc code integrated.\n<\/ul>\n<li> IndexedDB\n<ul>\n<li> Landed huge perf improvements!\n<li> Arrays-as-keys the big remaining feature\n<li> Found and fixed dataloss bug.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Part of SMS getting close to landing\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Network <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Preparing to move birch (native UI) to mozilla-central\n<li> Switching nightlies from mozilla-central (XUL) to birch (native)\n<ul>\n<li> All nightly users will be moved\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Accessibility <\/span><\/h1>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Rev3 OSX snow leopard machines are now offline.\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Final Notice!<\/b> These will be recycled into linux\/windows testers unless there&#8217;s a very good reason to keep them around for the next little while. Speak now, or forever hold your peace!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\" style=\"width: 800px\">\n<tr>\n<th> Date \/ Time<\/p>\n<th> Item<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Wed Nov 23 \/ 13:00 PST <\/p>\n<td> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Desktop\/Add-on_hotfix\" title=\"Features\/Desktop\/Add-on hotfix\">Add-On Hotfix<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Security\/Reviews\/Firefox\/Add-on_hotfix\" title=\"Security\/Reviews\/Firefox\/Add-on hotfix\"> Security Review &#8211; prepopulated<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.com\/home\/ckoenig@mozilla.com\/Security%20Review.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calendar and Meeting details<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<pre>General Meeting Details\n* IRC Channel: #security\n* Etherpad: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/secreview<\/a>\n* Dial-in Info:\n** In office or soft phone: extension 92\n** US\/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92\n** Toronto: 416-848-3114 then extension 92\n** Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369\n** Conference num 624\n<\/pre>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Stability Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Socorro<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> New Socorro version 2.3.3 will be held until next week. Delayed due to chemspill and holiday. Probably go out Monday.\n<li> Notable feature: Signature summary &#8211; on the page for each signature we get a summary of the versions it happens it and time buckets so we can easily see start crashes.\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/cf3qjh4\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/cf3qjh4<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Desktop<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Highlights\n<ul>\n<li> After issues with 8.0, we are working on a plan to more aggressively block some of the problematic 3rd party dlls that cause crashes. Putting together a list of stuff we will block for 9.0. Includes an older version of Flash <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704158\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704158<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/firefox.10.0a1.flashsummary.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/firefox.10.0a1.flashsummary.html<\/a>. The list of Flash crashes and hangs shows a decrease in volume as of 10\/29 which stays constant through the cutover to 10.0a2. It&#8217;s showing in 11 as well. FF 7 and 8 show NO correlating drop from 10\/29.\n<\/ul>\n<li> New issues on Release\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704125\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704125<\/a> &#8211; Firefox 7 crash in gbmzh_bb.dll (Banco do Brasil?) &#8211; showing up in 7.0\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702869\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702869<\/a> &#8211; mozalloc_abort\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704029\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704029<\/a> &#8211; nsLocalFile::Append(nsAString_internal const&amp;)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=694974\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 694974<\/a> &#8211; Comcast Constant Guard (sent mail to devs to advise them users are still crashing)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=703624\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 703624<\/a> &#8211; Crash caused by Fritz!Box 1.6.1 addon [@ FB_AddOn4.dll@0x27421]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704492\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704492<\/a> &#8211; crash sshnas21 (trojan FakeAlert)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=700493\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 700493<\/a> &#8211; Firefox Crash @ @0x0 | nsXULPrototypeCache::HasData(nsIURI*, int*) ] (Correlated to Yandex Bar)\n<li> Marcia went through crashes over the weekend that had &#8220;needs URL&#8221; and provided correlations for those that we could.\n<\/ul>\n<li> New issues for 9.0\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702217\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702217<\/a> &#8211; OOM crash in nsUrlClassifierStore::ReadPrefixes or nsUrlClassifierPrefixSet::SetPrefixes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702901\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702901<\/a> &#8211; js::types::TypeScriptNesting::~TypeScriptNesting()\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702910\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702910<\/a> &#8211; Firefox 9b1 crashes at startup\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704460\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704460<\/a> &#8211; js_ValueToString. Mac crash &#8211; Seeing this on 10 as well.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704488\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704488<\/a> &#8211; je_free | mozutils.dll@0x2a9f\n<\/ul>\n<li> New bugs logged for Aurora\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702547\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702547<\/a> &#8211; js_ConcatStrings\n<\/ul>\n<li> New bugs logged for Trunk\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702999\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702999<\/a> &#8211; layout issue on the trunk\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=703133\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 703133<\/a> &#8211; nsImageLoadingContent\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704124\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704124<\/a> &#8211; gfxContext::SetSource\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704284\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704284<\/a> &#8211; Firefox Crash @ nsXMLHttpRequest::IsWaitingForHTMLCharset()\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704456\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704456<\/a> &#8211; Crash in __-[ChildView maybeTrackScrollEventAsSwipe:scrollOverflow:]_block_invoke_1\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Mobile<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Weekly detailed report &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_21Nov2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_21Nov2011<\/a>\n<li> A bunch of issues were fixed yesterday for release for nightly users &#8211; Naoki still needs to make a few updates in the report.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704161\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704161<\/a> &#8211; Now that we have Flash for mobile, we need to figure out how to get the symbols.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;list_id=1749236&amp;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=native-crash%3AP1&amp;classification=Client%20Software&amp;classification=Components&amp;classification=Server%20Software&amp;classification=Other\" rel=\"nofollow\">Native Fennec P1 Crash Bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> MSVC 2010 Migration (targeting Gecko 12) &#8211; khuey\n<ul>\n<li> Builders are ready to go.\n<li> Tests are green.\n<li> Perf numbers look good.\n<li> Client side updater requirements are done.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-22\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2011-11-22<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2011-11-22 &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Platform Meeting Details Tuesdays &#8211; 11:00 am Pacific Warp Core Vidyo Room 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 95312 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US) join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel &lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/712"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=712"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/712\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=712"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=712"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=712"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}