{"id":714,"date":"2011-11-24T00:00:11","date_gmt":"2011-11-24T04:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/714"},"modified":"2011-11-24T00:00:11","modified_gmt":"2011-11-24T04:00:11","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-11-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/714","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-23"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-16\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-16\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US)\n<li> Vidyo Room: Warp Core\n<li> Vidyo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym\" rel=\"nofollow\">Guest URL<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Christian and Laura to figure out where to blog about Add-ons compatible by default (to get more testers enabling the feature once it is on Aurora)\n<li> blassey to report back on disabling flash on Aurora (XUL) Fennec\n<ul>\n<li> pushed the patches (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704612\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704612<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=703815\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 703815<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Christian to add explanation of new permissions requests to mobile beta release notes (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702183\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702183<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 8) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 8.0.1 released Monday (11\/21)\n<ul>\n<li> Post-Mortem scheduled for next Friday (12\/2) at 10AM PT in Warp Core\n<\/ul>\n<li> Triage meetings being held for 3.6.25 security bugs\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (9) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> To be the first FF mobile release posted to the Amazon Appstore\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (10) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Silent Update\n<ul>\n<li>Removal of OS security dialog for Windows close to complete. Working with releng on final issue. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brianbondy.com\/blog\/id\/125\/mozilla-firefox-and-silent-updates\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brian&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<li>Add-ons default to compatible has landed on Nightly and Aurora. Currently prefed off on Aurora. Ready for testing. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/theunfocused.net\/2011\/11\/19\/solving-firefoxs-add-on-compatibility-problem\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blair&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<li> Your help is needed to test these features. Read the blog posts or speak with Brian, Ehsan, Blair, Anthony or me if you have any questions.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (11) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Silent Update\n<ul>\n<li>Background updates ready for review and testing. Details on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ehsanakhgari.org\/blog\/2011-11-11\/updating-firefox-background\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ehsan&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\n<ul>\n<li>Note that this feature, which had been thought to be ready in 10 will now land in 11.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Performance\/Snappy\" title=\"Performance\/Snappy\">Project Snappy<\/a> kicked off last week\n<ul>\n<li>Aim is to improve Firefox responsiveness.\n<li>Get in touch with Taras or Lawrence if you&#8217;re interested in contributing.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Style Editor has landed. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=583041\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 583041<\/a>\n<li> Catch process hangs landed this morning. More at <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=429592\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 429592<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 10:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Desktop\">Improving Sync Set Up<\/a> &#8211; Went into Aurora. Working with Support and Engagement to update Mozilla pages.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Firefox 11+:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/AndroidSyncFP\" title=\"Services\/AndroidSyncFP\"> Java Porting for Sync<\/a> &#8211; is in progress\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Push_to_device\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Push to device\">Push to Device<\/a> &#8211; In development. You can play with an add-on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/addon\/send-tab-to-device\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Addon_Sync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Addon Sync\">Addon Sync<\/a> &#8211; In development.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.7\" title=\"AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.7\">Add-on Builder<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on SDK <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Release (1.2 -&gt; Firefox 7, 8)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Everything A-OK\n<\/ul>\n<p>Stabilization (1.3 -&gt; Firefox 8, 9)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Still on 1.3RC1 which was spun last week.\n<li> Will stick with RC1 for release next week unless any blockers appear\n<li> 1.3 Release on track for Tues. Nov. 29th!\n<\/ul>\n<p>Development (1.4 -&gt; Firefox 9, 10)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Ongoing discussion and proposals for l10n support in Add-on SDK [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691782\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691782<\/a>]\n<li> New proposal about changes to the way we handle version strings inside the Add-on SDK [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/d\/topic\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/sQN2rThFaO4\/discussion\" rel=\"nofollow\">Discussion<\/a>]\n<li> Still on-track to merge to stabilization branch on Nov. 29th\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Cheng is on a plane somewhere over the North Pacific so read the wiki.<\/p>\n<p>Top Firefox 8 issues\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Missing favicons\n<li> No Java. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704741\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704741<\/a>\n<li> Outlook web access attachments don&#8217;t work <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=703015\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 703015<\/a>\n<li> Problems getting the latest Flash player to work <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/895973\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a> &#8212; may be either related to 64-bit-ness or Flash installing in an unexpected location.  This also presents as Youtube not working:<a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/897109\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a> and <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/897109\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a>\n<li> Adblock plus broke Gmail chat <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/895849\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a> &#8212; this may be fixed since reports have tapered.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX &amp; User Research <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Market Insights<\/b>  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Amazon <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Sencha conducted an in-depth of the Amazon Fire&#8217;s browser, Silk, for HTML5 support and overall performance. It performed below its peers on standardized tests like Acid3 and Sunspider. CSS animations were jerky, and that support for 3D transforms, web sockets, web workers, and many HTML form types are also absent. They also found that the &#8220;cloud-accelerated&#8221; Silk browser had little performance difference whether the acceleration was on or off. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sencha.com\/blog\/html5-scorecard-amazon-kindle-fire\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.sencha.com\/blog\/html5-scorecard-amazon-kindle-fire\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>A Citigroup investment research report was released that claimed that their research with hardware vendors indicated that Amazon was going to release a smartphone in 2012, manufactured with Foxconn.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Webkit \/ Google Chrome <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Google&#8217;s V8 engine released an updated incremental garbage collector, which &#8220;dramatically improves interactive performance of web apps and HTML5 games&#8221;. Google also released a Javascript stress test for the engine. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/QWugU\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/goo.gl\/QWugU<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Google updated their demo implementation of their proposed JPEG replacement, WebP. It now features lossless compression and alpha channel transparency. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.chromium.org\/2011\/11\/lossless-and-transparency-encoding-in.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blog.chromium.org\/2011\/11\/lossless-and-transparency-encoding-in.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Here&#8217;s a summary article at CNET about WebP and Microsoft&#8217;s similar JPEG XR proposal: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-57329328-264\/googles-webp-crosshairs-target-png-not-just-jpeg\/?tag=mncol;1n\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-57329328-264\/googles-webp-crosshairs-target-png-not-just-jpeg\/?tag=mncol;1n<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Chromium and Webkit had the &#8220;busiest week ever&#8221;, with 1,745 changes. The new Chromium history UI was launched, the Web Inspector now provides more information about object definitions and styles, and support for CSS4 Images cross-fade() function was added to the tree. The CSS3 Flexible Box implementation has been enabled by default, and some initial patches for CSS Grid Layout landed. Support for &lt;meta name=&#8221;referrer&#8221;&gt; allows page authors to specify referrer policy, making it easier to anonymize later web requests. Most CSS Filters now work correctly in nightlies, and computed styles for CSS Shaders have been implemented as well. This week Web Intents is expected to land.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Microsoft <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Microsoft released reference implementations of their proposed changes to ECMAScript. Suggested changes include math functions such as cosh, sinh, tanh, log2, log10; string methods like startsWith, endsWith, and contains, and number methods such as isFinite and isInteger. &#8220;When running on Windows 7, the prototype implementation supports 363 available Locales, 18 numbering systems, many date patterns, and includes support for the Gregorian, Islamic, Hebrew, Buddhist, Korean, and Japanese calendars.&#8221; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/b\/ie\/archive\/2011\/11\/22\/evolving-ecmascript.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/b\/ie\/archive\/2011\/11\/22\/evolving-ecmascript.aspx<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ostatic.com\/blog\/firefox-for-android-gets-its-overhaul\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for Android Gets Its Overhaul<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-57328742-264\/firefoxs-android-reboot-begins-tomorrow\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox&#8217;s Android reboot begins tomorrow<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/businesscenter\/article\/244569\/firefox_for_android_will_get_its_new_interface_tonight.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for Android Will Get Its New Interface Tonight<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9222011\/Mozilla_makes_progress_on_Firefox_silent_updates\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla makes progress on Firefox silent updates<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments, FYI <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions this week <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23 &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Planning Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays) Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/714"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=714"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/714\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=714"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=714"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=714"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}