{"id":720,"date":"2011-12-01T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-12-01T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/720"},"modified":"2011-12-01T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-12-01T04:00:04","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-11-30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/720","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-30"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-23\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-12-07&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-12-07 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# <b>95312<\/b> (US)\n<li> Vidyo Room: Warp Core\n<li> Vidyo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym\" rel=\"nofollow\">Guest URL<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release (3.6, 8) <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta (9) <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora (10) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Silent update\n<ul>\n<li>Finishing work for Removal of OS security dialog for Windows. Expect to be ready to land early next week.\n<li>Finishing work for Add-ons default to compatible. Few outstanding bugs.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Nightly (11) <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Silent update\n<ul>\n<li>Background updates on hold until completion of Removal of OS security dialog for Windows.\n<\/ul>\n<li> m_kato fixed and landed the first half of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505192\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chrome Profile Migration<\/a> (Cookies, History, Bookmarks)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Mobile  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>NativeUI for Android now on <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/nightly.mozilla.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/nightly.mozilla.org<\/a>, file bugs under Fennec | Native in bugzilla, fixes startup and page loading performance issues as well as Flash. Join the test drivers program: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mozilla.com\/mobile\/testdrivers\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.mozilla.com\/mobile\/testdrivers<\/a>\n<li>SUMO Day is tomorrow, see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/sumo\/2011\/11\/28\/sumo-day-december-1st\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/sumo\/2011\/11\/28\/sumo-day-december-1st\/<\/a> or just go read some SUMO forum posts now, DIY user feedback\n<li>Talk to Firefox for Android NativeUI users in person next Weds. evening in SF, <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.meetup.com\/Firefox-Android-superheroes\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.meetup.com\/Firefox-Android-superheroes\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 10:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Sync_Setup_Improvements_Desktop\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Sync Setup Improvements Desktop\">Improving Sync Set Up<\/a> &#8211; Went into Aurora. Working with Support and Engagement to update Mozilla pages.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Firefox 11+:\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/AndroidSyncFP\" title=\"Services\/AndroidSyncFP\"> Java Porting for Sync<\/a> &#8211; is in progress\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/FxSync\/FaviconSync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/FxSync\/FaviconSync\">Favicon Sync<\/a> &#8211; In development.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Services\/Sync\/Addon_Sync\" title=\"Services\/Sync\/Addon Sync\">Addon Sync<\/a> &#8211; In development.\n<\/ul>\n<li>removing 3.6 addon from amo\n<ul>\n<li> targeting dec 9th\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Add-on Builder<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No release this week, change set has a few unresolved bugs\n<li> Q4 goals are on-track\n<li> Socialized plans for Builder appification in 2012 w\/ Kevin Dangoor. I&#8217;ll be incorporating his feedback in a more detailed roadmap\/product plan by week&#8217;s end.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Add-on SDK <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Release (1.3 -&gt; Firefox 8, 9)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Add-on SDK 1.3 released yesterday!\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/Release_Notes\/1.3\" rel=\"nofollow\">1.3 Release Notes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Jorge Villalobos ran <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/d\/msg\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/7Z9MOyG0w58\/_RGsNE_GJigJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">performance tests<\/a> on the SDK and Fx Beta\n<ul>\n<li> empty add-on only added 11ms to start up\n<li> random, complicated add-on added 22ms to start-up\n<li> working on a system to run perf tests on the jetpack project tree <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=702684#c0\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 702684<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Stabilization (1.4 -&gt; Firefox 9, 10)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Development branch merged to Stabilization yesterday\n<li> Even more performance improvements!\n<ul>\n<li> we landed a brand new, simplified, loader\n<li> we simplified the XPI layout <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=660629\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 660629<\/a>\n<li> we will measure these new additions to look for more performance gains\n<\/ul>\n<li> 1.4 scheduled to ship on January 10, 2012\n<\/ul>\n<p>Development (1.5 -&gt; Firefox 10, 11)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Still ongoing discussions about l10n &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=691782\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 691782<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/jetpack.etherpad.mozilla.org\/localization\" rel=\"nofollow\">in etherpad<\/a>\n<li> Development branch scheduled to merge to stabilization on January 10, 2012\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Desktop <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Something about the holidays spurs people to have malware\u00a0\ud83d\ude41 The following are taking over people&#8217;s searches.  All of these were around before but they&#8217;ve moved up in the complaint ranking.\n<ul>\n<li> Bigseekpro\n<li> Babylon search\n<li> Bearshare websearch\n<li> Searchqu\n<\/ul>\n<li> Outlook WebAccess <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=703015\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 703015<\/a>\n<li> Java doesn&#8217;t work (no necessarily Java Console): <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=704741\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 704741<\/a>\n<li> Complaints about Google&#8217;s pushout of Google+\n<li> Bookmark icon loss (as before)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX &amp; User Research <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b>Market Insights<\/b>  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Technology <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Google Chrome <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> ANGLE now has full OpenGL support for windows <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Google&#8217;s ANGLE library for supporting OpenGL on Windows now passes the GL ES 2.0 implementation. ANGLE translates OpenGL calls into their Direct3D 9 equivalents, allowing Chrome to use a single open graphics standard across all platforms.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.chromium.org\/2011\/11\/opengl-es-20-certification-for-angle.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Chrome beta now syncs entire profiles for shared computers <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Google added a new feature that lets people who use a shared computer each have their own personalized Chrome, and lets them each sign in to Chrome to sync their information.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/chrome.blogspot.com\/2011\/11\/take-your-chrome-stuff-with-you-in-new.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Google Chrome beta has Quota Management for local storage <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>The latest version of Chrome browser has the first concept and its implementation of Quota Management API . It handles quota for AppCache, IndexedDB, WebSQL and File System API.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/updates.html5rocks.com\/2011\/11\/Quota-Management-API-Fast-Facts\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> WebKit\/Chrome <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>1,079 changes landed in the WebKit and Chromium repositories. Notifications were added for screen wake-ups and unlocks, and CSS Transforms now partially work on SVG elements. The Gamepad API also landed. A low-entropy, shared secret authentication protocol called P244 was added to Chromium. The ability to create desktop shortcuts for Chrome Profiles has been implemented for Windows.\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ad inside Chrome browser itself <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Users of Google Chrome noticed an in-browser ad for Chromebooks, likely the first time that Google had used the browser itself to deliver advertising.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.favbrowser.com\/google-chrome-now-with-ads\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Microsoft <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IE9 <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>IE9 made PCWorld&#8217;s 100 best products of 2011, Internet Explorer 9 comes in at #19, the only major browser to make the list this go around.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/article\/205394\/internet_explorer_9_beta_rough_spots_but_performance_and_interface_enhancements_as_well.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IE10 <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Microsoft released the 4th preview edition of IE10 which can be tested on Windows 8. It adds support for Cross Origin Resource Sharing (CORS), blobBuilder from the File:Api:Writer specification, and the user-select property in CSS. It also improves quirks mode to make it more consistent with those in Google Chrome, Firefox, Safari and Opera.his updated quirks mode supports quirks for page layout, while allowing use of more up-to-date standards features like HTML5 elements for audio, video, canvas, and more.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/b\/ie\/archive\/2011\/11\/29\/html5-for-applications-the-fourth-ie10-platform-preview.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Opera <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>The latest snapshot of Opera 12 now supports CORS, and their Dragonfly web development tool now has Style Profiling which provides a performance profile of the entire process of building a web page, allowing web developers to optimize their style selectors.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/my.opera.com\/dragonfly\/blog\/style-profiler-preview\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/my.opera.com\/dragonfly\/blog\/style-profiler-preview<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Avant <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Avant said they would release a new browser in early 2012 that had support for the WebKit, Gecko, IE7 and IE9 rendering engines.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.favbrowser.com\/avant-browser-to-use-4-rendering-engines\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.favbrowser.com\/avant-browser-to-use-4-rendering-engines\/<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Development tools: QualityBots <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Google released <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/qualitybots\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Qualitybots<\/a>, a tool that allows users to create batch webpage comparisons across Chrome channels by utilizing EC2 machines. The resulting comparisons will help webpage designers and Chrome app developers understand how their work will fare in future Chrome versions.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Java <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Microsoft said that hackers are launching millions of attacks on Java installations, and that, sadly, 60% of Java installations lacked an 18-month-old Java security update.<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9222244\/Hackers_launch_millions_of_Java_exploits_says_Microsoft\" rel=\"nofollow\">more<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Summary below, full update <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/irinasandu.com\/android-and-mobile-browsing-insights-week-48\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> and in your inbox.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Amazon answered to Congress on privacy in the Silk browser\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Security and privacy constitute a rising concern on mobile\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Panasonic to enter European and North American markets with Android-based smartphones\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Yandex to be the default search engine in Windows Phone 7 devices in Russia\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Windows Phone 7 devices to launch in China in 2012\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Samsung&#8217;s Cortex-A15 chips have been unveiled, to come to devices in Q2 next year\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Telefonica started testing a mobile payment and ID card system based on NFC technology\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing, Press &amp; Public Reaction  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.extremetech.com\/computing\/107211-mozillas-webapi-for-firefox-takes-shape-porn-sites-quiver-in-anticipation\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla\u2019s WebAPI for Firefox takes shape, porn sites quiver in anticipation<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-57328742-264\/firefoxs-android-reboot-begins-tomorrow\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox&#8217;s Android reboot begins tomorrow<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/businesscenter\/article\/244569\/firefox_for_android_will_get_its_new_interface_tonight.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for Android Will Get Its New Interface Tonight<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/lifehacker.com\/5863387\/chrome-and-firefox-extensions-that-protect-you-from-yourself\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chrome and Firefox Extensions That Protect You from Yourself<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions, Comments, FYI <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions this week <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-11-30 &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Planning Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays) Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=720"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/720\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}