{"id":75,"date":"2008-10-21T23:00:30","date_gmt":"2008-10-22T03:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/75"},"modified":"2008-10-21T23:00:30","modified_gmt":"2008-10-22T03:00:30","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2008-10-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/75","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2008-10-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2008-10-21<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2008-10-14\" title=\"Platform\/2008-10-14\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2008-10-28&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2008-10-28 (not yet written)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Details\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Tuesday &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 19:00 UTC\n<li> Mozilla Building S &#8211; &lt;script&gt; conference room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Notices_.2F_Schedule\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 2 Schedule\n<ul>\n<li> en-US string freeze is Thursday, October 30th at 11:59pm PDT\n<li> code freeze is Tuesday, November 4th at 11:59pm PDT\n<\/ul>\n<li> Please take a look at the feature list and get things missing added, and update status for things you own: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/Features#Gecko_1.9.1\" title=\"Firefox3.1\/Features\">Firefox3.1\/Features#Gecko_1.9.1<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/Security\" title=\"Firefox3.1\/Security\">the security review schedule<\/a> page to get your review scheduled ASAP!\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Firefox_3.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox 3.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>Places Fsync-reduction Changes\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Goal: reduce fsyncs by writing to the disk less often, reducing hangs\/freezes\/sluggishness while browsing (especially hurting mobile, usb and some linux).\n<li> Approach: keep non-critical history data in temporary tables, periodically flushing to permanent tables in the background.\n<li> Problems\n<ul>\n<li> Ts (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197\">bug 459197<\/a>)\n<ul>\n<li> Initial landing caused a regression of ~3% on linux and ~4% on windows (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197#c2\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197#c2\">data<\/a>)\n<li> With fixes, still seeing regressions: (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197#c12\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459197#c12\">data<\/a>)\n<ul>\n<li> Linux is at 1-2% (30-40ms)\n<li> Windows XP is at ~2% (~20ms)\n<li> Windows Vista is at 1.2-2.5% (7-15ms) depending on which boxes you look at\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Tp (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235\">bug 459235<\/a>)\n<ul>\n<li> Initial landing caused a regression of about ~3% on OS X; possible regression on windows (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235#c1\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235#c1\">data<\/a>)\n<li> With fixes, possibly only small regression on mac, and ~1% win on linux (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235#c10\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459235#c10\">data<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Solutions\n<ul>\n<li> This work is not going to make 3.1; push to next release and make no improvements in this area\n<li> slip beta 2 until we get the performance issues fixed with other performance improvements\n<li> let this work land and accept the fact that we&#8217;ll take some small hits in some performance benchmarks\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"GFX_1.9.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX 1.9.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5xfmvp\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5xfmvp\">GFX blocking 1.9.1+<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4zv2kn\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/4zv2kn\">GFX wanted 1.9.1+<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Mac_OS_X_1.9.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mac OS X 1.9.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> working on blockers\n<li> Josh working on tests and various plugin bugs as well\n<li> further filesystem work still in review\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Layout_1.9.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout 1.9.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/6zjp33\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/6zjp33\">1.9.1 Layout Bugs<\/a>\n<li> Video (roc\/cdouble):\n<li> Acid3: See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=410460#c66\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=410460#c66\">comment 66<\/a> in the bug\n<li> SVG CSS, roc:\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Content_1.9.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content 1.9.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5a8vc2\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5a8vc2\">Content 1.9.1 Bugs<\/a>\n<li> Worker Threads:\n<li> Cross-site XHR:\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"JS_1.9.1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS 1.9.1 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5gmg8y\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5gmg8y\">JS 1.9.1 Bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>m-c blockers hurting daily browsing:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Google Maps malfunction (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460024\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460024\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460024<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nBlocking JIT by default:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> multi trees (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450833\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450833\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450833<\/a>)\n<li> slow script timeout (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450000\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450000\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450000<\/a>)\n<li> v8-richards misbehavior (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456384\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456384\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456384<\/a>)\n<li>  Running Dijit Tree Test with Content JIT \/ Ubiquity (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451843\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451843\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451843<\/a>)\n<li> correctness bug with undefined turning to NaN (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456479\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456479\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456479<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Not blocking JIT by default:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> jsMSX crash (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458227\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458227\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458227<\/a>)\n<li> SCUMM VM crash (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=455547\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=455547\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=455547<\/a>)\n<li> eval\/let combo (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457065\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457065\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457065<\/a>)\n<li> CRASHED signal 10 SIGBUS using regress-271716-n.js (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460518\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460518\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460518<\/a>)\n<li> js1_8\/genexps\/regress-380237-01.js: InternalError: too much recursion (64bit) (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457660\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457660\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457660<\/a>)\n<li> LIRBufWriter null checking (<a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451322\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451322\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451322<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Mobile_1.9.1_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mobile 1.9.1 Update <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"General_1.9.1_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> General 1.9.1 Updates <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> offline cache, dcamp:\n<li> localStorage, honzab:\n<li> HTML5 drag-drop:\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Security\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Security_Reviews\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security Reviews <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> feedback on try-talos? Please add to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461012\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461012\">bug 461012<\/a>\n<li> mothballing 1.8 \/ 1.9.0 machines?\n<li> any upcoming tool changes after branch for FF3.1? Nope.\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2008-10-21\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2008-10-21<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2008-10-21 From MozillaWiki \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Details Tuesday &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 19:00 UTC Mozilla Building S &#8211; &lt;script&gt; conference room 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for backchannel Notices \/ Schedule Beta 2 Schedule en-US string freeze is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":98,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/98"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}