{"id":77,"date":"2008-10-21T23:00:54","date_gmt":"2008-10-22T03:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/77"},"modified":"2008-10-21T23:00:54","modified_gmt":"2008-10-22T03:00:54","slug":"seamonkey-meeting-minutes-2008-10-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/77","title":{"rendered":"SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2008-10-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-10-21<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-10-07\" title=\"2008-10-07\">\u00ab last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings\" title=\"StatusMeetings\">index<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>SeaMonkey Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Time: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=21&amp;month=10&amp;year=2008&amp;hour=12&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=21&amp;month=10&amp;year=2008&amp;hour=12&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\">October 21, 2008, 12:00 UTC<\/a>\n<li> Location: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\">#seamonkey IRC channel<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>stefanh<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> any?\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"SeaMonkey_2_Alpha_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 2 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>Bug Queries<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%2B\">open blockers<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%2B\">all blockers<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a2%3F\">blocker requests<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Freeze target is 18th November 2008.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Longer-Term_SeaMonkey_2_Planning\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-seamonkey2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-seamonkey2%2B\">open wanted<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?keywords_type=nowords&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-seamonkey2%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?keywords_type=nowords&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-seamonkey2%3F\">wanted requests<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Major wanted\/needed features:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=381157\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=381157\">bug 381157<\/a> Download manager\n<ul>\n<li> Updated patch[es] on Bug to Hg repository.\n<li> Have some local changes to account for architectural changes.\n<li> Examining both xpfe\/ and toolkit\/ based code for other locations that may need fixing to ease final review.\n<li> No progress dialogs yet, nor xpfe-like Download Manager window.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=390025\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=390025\">bug 390025<\/a> Kill-wallet (password manager)\n<ul>\n<li> Standard8 has started on some test cases for existing code (to provide reassurance that we end up migrating properly).\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=382187\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=382187\">bug 382187<\/a> Places history\n<ul>\n<li> small pieces of local improvements on KaiRo&#8217;s machine, but waiting for review comments before doing more work.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\">bug 36810<\/a> Session restore\n<ul>\n<li> waiting for review, patch for turning to error page also ready (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413385\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413385\">bug 413385<\/a>). Needs help with css\/ui for error page patch.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394288\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394288\">bug 394288<\/a> \/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413385\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413385\">bug 413385<\/a> Toolbar customization\n<ul>\n<li> The toolbarbutton size\/mode sub-bug has a few more nits to address.\n<li> No progress at the moment. I&#8217;ll resume working on this at the end of October. <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Philip_Chee\" title=\"Philip Chee\">Ratty<\/a>.\n<li> Toolkit <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=407725\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=407725\">bug 407725<\/a> is still waiting for reviews from gavin.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456757\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456757\">bug 456757<\/a> Modern theme update\n<ul>\n<li> No progress reports available.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460699\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460699\">bug 460699<\/a> Make the default theme look better on mac\n<ul>\n<li> Nothing started yet, but stefanh will look at it.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453797\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453797\">bug 453797<\/a> (Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=392303\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=392303\">bug 392303<\/a> (Simplify installer changes) to SeaMonkey installer)\n<ul>\n<li> mcsmurf is making progress, patch almost ready for review. The patch is quite big, though &#8211; need to check what is the best way to get this reviewed. Will try to split the patch for easier review.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=433254\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=433254\">bug 433254<\/a> Implement Mac shell service for SeaMonkey\n<ul>\n<li> There&#8217;s a WIP patch in the bug, no further progress expected for a couple of months. However, since we have a structure now (windows shellservice), work shouldn&#8217;t be too difficult.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Need to handle <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=420506\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=420506\">bug 420506<\/a> (Thuderbird rdf-kill)\n<ul>\n<li> Two bugs filed to ensure it&#8217;s on the tracking-list:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460952\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460952\">bug 460952<\/a> Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn&#8217;t break SeaMonkey\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460953\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460953\">bug 460953<\/a> Port jminta&#8217;s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>Status Updates from developers &#8211; what are you working on, what&#8217;s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status)\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"ajschult\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> ajschult <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"biesi\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> biesi <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Callek\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Callek <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Probably unable to attend this meeting again\u00a0\ud83d\ude41\n<li> Worked on DLMGR more\n<li> Actively reviewing patches to comm-central&#8217;s client.py (and watching other build* bugs in that area)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"IanN\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> IanN <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456668\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=456668\">bug 456668<\/a> &#8211; Multiple forwarded (attached) messages give the same name &#8211; been digging into that one with help from bienvenu.\n<li> Reviewing various help patches.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Some build system cleanup and sync work\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459413\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459413\">bug 459413<\/a> Geolocation prompt &#8211; ran into problems with what seemed to be a simple patch\n<li> Updated both my themes (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/2008-10\/both_earlyblue_and_lcarstrek_now_have_2\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/2008-10\/both_earlyblue_and_lcarstrek_now_have_2\">EarlyBlue and LCARStrek<\/a>) for 2.0a1\n<li> As always, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/\">my blog<\/a> has more detailed status about my work\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"mcsmurf\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> mcsmurf <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Continued working on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453797\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453797\">bug 453797<\/a> (Port Bug 392303 (Simplify installer changes) to SeaMonkey installer), patch is almost ready for review, need to fix some small things\n<li> The patch will probably be one big patch, will try to separate the patch into smaller patches\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Misak\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Misak <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\">bug 36810<\/a> (session restore)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459550\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459550\">bug 459550<\/a> (Port Bug 448976 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) to SeaMonkey)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=425480\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=425480\">bug 425480<\/a> (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=455877\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=455877\">bug 455877<\/a> (port Bug 254714 to SeaMonkey)\n<li> Bug reporting and bug triage.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Mnyromyr\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mnyromyr <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> just reviews &#8211; RL overflow\u00a0\ud83d\ude09\u00a0; probably better after Moz Camp Europe\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"MReimer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> MReimer <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Neil\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Neil <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Ratty\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ratty <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"sgautherie\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> sgautherie <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ccgi.standard8.plus.com\/blog\/archives\/37\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ccgi.standard8.plus.com\/blog\/archives\/37\">Gave gristmill a try<\/a> on Thunderbird. Potentially good QA tool, give feedback to them and start using it.\n<li> Thunderbird release driving work now almost zero, back to fixing bugs!\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"stefanh\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> stefanh <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Started to work on some Help bugs\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"wladow\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> wladow <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Any_other_business.3F\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Any other business? <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Someone will need to look into porting kill-rdf stuff to SeaMonkey, as the kill-rdf repository is now at the point where the main folder setup is now entirely divorced from RDF. I (<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Jcranmer\" title=\"Jcranmer\">jcranmer<\/a>) would nominate such a bug to be blocking SM 2.0, but I am not a SM developer.\n<ul>\n<li> If this repo landing breaks seamonkey, then it is *definately* blocking, and I&#8217;d suggest blocking the landing. (&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Callek\" title=\"Callek\">Justin Wood (Callek)<\/a>)\n<li> If not, I&#8217;d say &#8220;wanted SM2&#8221; but not &#8220;blocking&#8221;\u00a0\ud83d\ude09 (&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Callek\" title=\"Callek\">Justin Wood (Callek)<\/a>)\n<li> Two bugs filed (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460952\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460952\">bug 460952<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460953\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=460953\">bug 460953<\/a>, this topic is now in the  Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning list.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Need to get Venkman to work properly again on trunk.\n<ul>\n<li> At least some parts depends on js fixes in mozilla-central.\n<li> Who works on Venkman these days?\n<\/ul>\n<li> We need to look into porting thundertab (tabbed mail interface) as Lightning currently relies on that Thunderbird feature.\n<li> IanN, KaiRo and Mnyromyr will be in Barcelona this weekend.\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-10-21\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-10-21<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-10-21 From MozillaWiki \u00ab last meeting | index SeaMonkey Meeting Details Time: October 21, 2008, 12:00 UTC Location: #seamonkey IRC channel Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; stefanh Action Items any? SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 2 Bug Queries open blockers all blockers blocker requests Freeze target is 18th November 2008. 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