{"id":87,"date":"2008-11-06T00:00:19","date_gmt":"2008-11-06T04:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/87"},"modified":"2008-11-06T00:00:19","modified_gmt":"2008-11-06T04:00:19","slug":"firefox-31-meeting-minutes-2008-11-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/87","title":{"rendered":"Firefox 3.1 Meeting Minutes: 2008-11-05"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-11-05<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-10-22\" title=\"Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-10-22\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <strong>next week \u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox Product Delivery Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; Firefox 3 &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mozilla Building S\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) <font color=\"red\">&lt;&#8211; note new extension: x92 instead of x91!<\/font>\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>NOTE: See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meeting_Notes\" title=\"Platform\">Platform#Meeting_Notes<\/a> for development meeting notes<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Firefox_2.0.0.x_.2F_3.0.x\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox 2.0.0.x \/ 3.0.x <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_2.0.0.18\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 2.0.0.18\">Firefox 2.0.0.18<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.0.4\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.0.4\">3.0.4<\/a><\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Code froze last Wednesday, a few days late\n<li> Builds for both releases were available Friday afternoon\n<li> Scheduled release date is November 12\n<li> Heading to beta later today\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b>Major Update<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Planning a major update after release\n<li> Aiming for ~2 weeks after release\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Thunderbird_2.0.0.18\" title=\"Releases\/Thunderbird 2.0.0.18\">Thunderbird 2.0.0.18<\/a><\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently scheduled for November 19\n<li> Highly dependent on Firefox\n<li> Aiming for about a week after Firefox 2.0.0.18\n<\/ul>\n<li> <b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_2.0.0.19\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 2.0.0.19\">Firefox 2.0.0.19<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.0.5\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.0.5\">3.0.5<\/a><\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Schedules are on the wiki\n<li> Code freeze is for November 17 at 11:59pm PST\n<li> Using new short development, long QA cycle\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Support\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/kb\/Weekly+common+issues\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/kb\/Weekly+common+issues\">Weekly common issues<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Norton 360 updated yesterday\n<li> Still have a lot of issues with locked places.sqlite that aren&#8217;t Norton 360 related.\n<li> Issues with Yahoo login is still the most common cookies issue\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Firefox_3.1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox 3.1 <\/span> <\/h2>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.1b2\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.1b2\">Beta 2<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> tree now frozen and only open to blocking bugs, as well as a few <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/1.9.1_beta_2_checkins\" title=\"1.9.1 beta 2 checkins\">scheduled exceptions<\/a>\n<li> will be finishing and polishing from now until thursday\n<li> localizers will have next weekend to finish up (strings will stop landing as of Thursday)\n<li> release schedule is <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.1b2\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.1b2\">available online<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Support_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.support.planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/aa619f6481078bf0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.support.planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/aa619f6481078bf0\">Discussion in mozilla.support.planning<\/a> about re-evaluating in-product help for Firefox 3.1\n<ul>\n<li> Evaulating: How big should it be? Can we better organize the content in product help? What content should be covered in in-product help?\n<li> Current issue: Do we consider any page in in-product help to be mandatory for localization?\n<li> Dependent on Firefox code: Are there any other good places for help-topic links? Is it too late to even think about that?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&amp;comments_parentId=165894&amp;forumId=3\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-US&amp;comments_parentId=165894&amp;forumId=3\">Most common Awesomebar complaints<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Localization\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Localization <\/span> <\/h3>\n<dl>\n<dt> this week\u00a0<\/p>\n<dd> 40 (ar be bg bn-IN ca cs de el en-GB es-AR es-ES et eu fi fr fy-NL ga-IE gl he hi-IN is it ka kn lt lv nb-NO nn-NO pl pt-PT ro ru si sk sl sq sv-SE tr uk zh-CN)<\/p>\n<dt> last week\u00a0<\/p>\n<dd> 3 (da ko zh-TW)<\/p>\n<dt> week before last\u00a0<\/p>\n<dd> 3 (nl oc te)<\/p>\n<dt> older<\/p>\n<dd> 10 (eo gu-IN hu id ja ja-JP-mac mk pa-IN pt-BR sr)<\/p>\n<dt> admins only<\/p>\n<dd> 7 (af cy ku ml mn mr th)\n<\/dl>\n<p><a name=\"QA\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#Top_Critical_issues_for_QA\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#Top_Critical_issues_for_QA\">top critical tracking issues<\/a> blocking Beta 2 test development:\n<ul>\n<li> (bc) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458857\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458857\">bug 458857<\/a> &#8211; TM: &#8220;Assertion failure: ngslots == tm-&gt;globalTypeMap-&gt;length()&#8221; with gc and generator as getters\n<ul>\n<li> blocking flag, needs a patch\n<\/ul>\n<li> (bc) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451843\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451843\">bug 451843<\/a> &#8211;  Running Dijit Tree Test with Content JIT enabled causes the TreeView not to appear.\n<ul>\n<li> TM is b2, but no one assigned to it yet.  Might need to be punted to next milestone\n<\/ul>\n<li> (bc) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457660\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=457660\">bug 457660<\/a> &#8211;  js1_8\/genexps\/regress-380237-01.js: InternalError: too much recursion (64bit)\n<ul>\n<li> TM is b2, but no one assigned to it yet.  Might need to be punted to next milestone\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fx3.1 Feature testing progress <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=pnyCb4cp33faqpi709iEhcA&amp;hl=en\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=pnyCb4cp33faqpi709iEhcA&amp;hl=en\">spreadsheet<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Testplan completion\u00a0%: 84% <i>(last week: 80%)<\/i>\n<li> Estimated testcases: 752 <i>(last week: 743)<\/i>\n<li> Testcase completion\u00a0%: 56% <i>(last week: 46%)<\/i>\n<ul>\n<li> Targeted\u00a0% by Beta 2 ship: Testplans 100% | Testcases 50%\n<li> Targeted\u00a0% by RC1 ship: Testplans 100% | Testcases 90%\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> As always, Feature Testplans and progress <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#Feature_Focused_Areas\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#Feature_Focused_Areas\">here<\/a>.\n<li> Tracking <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Topcrashes#Current_topcrashes_being_tracked_3.1b1\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Topcrashes#Current_topcrashes_being_tracked_3.1b1\">Topcrashes from beta 1<\/a> (ss)\n<li> Created session on the 3.1 testplan wiki for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#QA_.2F_Support_Team_Issues\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Firefox3.1\/TestPlan#QA_.2F_Support_Team_Issues\">QA\/Support common issues<\/a>\n<li> Private browsing testday pushed out again. Need time for internal testing \/ writing testcases this week (marcia)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Release_Engineering\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> FF2.0.0.18 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461264\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461264\">bug 461264<\/a> and FF3.0.4 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461267\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461267\">bug 461267<\/a> going to beta today\n<li> TB2.0.0.18  waiting for last minute fix.\n<li> FF3.1beta2 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=463036\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=463036\">bug 463036<\/a> waiting for go. Still doing last of the rel-automation work.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Evangelism\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Evangelism <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Docs coming up &#8211; working through worker threads + access control stuff on the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/Messaging#Beta_2\" title=\"Firefox3.1\/Messaging\"> messaging page<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Add-ons compat page from justin (fligtar) is <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/compatibility\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/firefox\/compatibility\">up and running<\/a>.\n<li> Add-ons blog is up.  Justin and others have been blogging.\n<li> Paul is starting to collect information on a specific page for add-ons developers\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Marketing.2FPR\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing\/PR <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-11-05\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-11-05<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox3.1\/StatusMeetings\/2008-11-05 From MozillaWiki \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Firefox Product Delivery Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; Firefox 3 &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC Mozilla Building S 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) &lt;&#8211; note new extension: x92 instead of x91! 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":98,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/87"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/98"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=87"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/87\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=87"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=87"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=87"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}