{"id":94,"date":"2008-12-17T00:00:43","date_gmt":"2008-12-17T04:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/94"},"modified":"2008-12-17T00:00:43","modified_gmt":"2008-12-17T04:00:43","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2008-12-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/94","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2008-12-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-16<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-09\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-09\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-23&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-23 (not yet written)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2008&amp;month=12&amp;day=16&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2008&amp;month=12&amp;day=16&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, Dec 16, 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <strike><b>asuth<\/b><\/strike> nth10sd (Gary!)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Calls_For_Help\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Calls For Help <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> New <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> dmose &#8211; Strong mandates of shipping one month after Firefox.\n<li> dmose &#8211; Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> dmose: Add simon and gozer to drivers list\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3_Beta_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3 Beta 2 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Drivers meeting last Thursday.\n<li> Probably not much would be done in the next week or two &#8212; Christmas \/ New Year.\n<li> Dates below may get pushed back.\n<li> dmose notes about Gecko&#8217;s code freeze dates in Jan.\n<ul>\n<li> Standard8: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> clarkbw is release driver\n<li> gozer is build engineer\n<li> (Slushy?) Proposed String freeze from: Monday 26th January 23:59 PST\n<li> (Slushy?) Proposed Code freeze from: Thursday 29th January 23:59 PST\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We need to make decisions as we triage blocking bugs below &#8211; will they eventually make it into TB3?\n<li> i.e. get them assigned or push them off..\n<ul>\n<li> Those that get pushed out beyond TB3 should have a flag to track them &#8211; dmose to suggest this to drivers.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Sidenote &#8211; SeaMonkey probably will release an Alpha in line with TB3b1, a Beta in line with TB3rc, and a final a couple of weeks after TB3.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\/Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 75 (2 down from last week)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 27\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3.0b2?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3.0b2?\">Proposed Blockers (b2)<\/a>: Query TBD\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone)<\/a>: 10\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 11\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 8\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap\" title=\"DevRoadmap\">Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Past bugdays\n<ul>\n<li> Since bugdays started, we have commented in or closed ALL Thunderbird UNCO bugs (excl. enhancements) that haven&#8217;t had a comment since TB 2.0 release!  (2007-04-07 to be exact)\n<li> So far bugday has touched over 4,700 bugs, of which over 1,600 resolutions changed, accounting for one third of all (non-FIXED) resolution changes since bugday started (4,800)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Next bugdays\n<ul>\n<li> Will be whacking at the corresponding NEW bugs (excl. enhancements). Queries are at the bugday wiki pages.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-12-18#Focus\" title=\"2008-12-18\">One last bugday this year<\/a> &#8212; Christmas and New Year both happen to fall on a Thursday, so no bugday after 12\/18 until 1\/8\/2009.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Crashes\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/talkback-public.mozilla.org\/reports\/thunderbird\/TB20018\/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/talkback-public.mozilla.org\/reports\/thunderbird\/TB20018\/index.html\">TB2 topcrashes<\/a> (besides ntdll.dll) &#8211; all related to large messages or messages with attachments \/ interrupting message display?\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=373895\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=373895\">bug 373895<\/a> Crash when moving from partly displayed large IMAP message to another IMAP folder [@ nsImapProtocol::SetupWithUrl] (doesn&#8217;t exist on trunk afaict)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=403272\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=403272\">bug 403272<\/a> crash typically retrieving attachments\/images [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenInputStream]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=364007\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=364007\">bug 364007<\/a> Crash when navigating through new mail with key &#8216;N&#8217; [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenOutputStream]\n<\/ul>\n<li> TB3 topcrash\n<ul>\n<li>  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\">bug 422907<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/report\/list?product=Thunderbird&amp;version=Thunderbird%3A3.0b1&amp;version=Thunderbird%3A3.0b2pre&amp;query_search=signature&amp;query_type=contains&amp;query=&amp;date=&amp;range_value=1&amp;range_unit=weeks&amp;do_query=1&amp;signature=nsMsgLocalMailFolder%3A%3AGetTrashFolder%28nsIMsgFolder**%29\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/report\/list?product=Thunderbird&amp;version=Thunderbird%3A3.0b1&amp;version=Thunderbird%3A3.0b2pre&amp;query_search=signature&amp;query_type=contains&amp;query=&amp;date=&amp;range_value=1&amp;range_unit=weeks&amp;do_query=1&amp;signature=nsMsgLocalMailFolder%3A%3AGetTrashFolder%28nsIMsgFolder**%29\">crashes at exit nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder(nsIMsgFolder**)<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Standard8 would like to propose we add an &#8220;Account Manager&#8221; component under the &#8220;MailNews Core&#8221; product &#8211; the code is shared, and I don&#8217;t see it needing to be split. Would probably make bug management easier.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> this past week\n<ul>\n<li> partial week due to vacation\/sick day\n<li> met with Ubuntu folks re Thunderbird collaboration\n<li> SF office-space related prep work\n<li> various code, strategy &amp; architectural discussions\n<\/ul>\n<li> upcoming week\n<ul>\n<li> on vacation Monday 12\/22 through Friday 12\/26\n<li> goals (by friday, 12\/19)\n<ul>\n<li> land JS-in-mailnews patches\n<li> make significant gloda review progress\n<li> catch up on momo board meeting stuff\n<li> progress on review backlog\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Getting back up to speed with bugmail and such.\n<li> One last 2008 bugday hurrah this Thursday.\n<li> Jumping into the TB mozmill wagon.\n<li> Mozmill patch in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459719\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459719\">bug 459719<\/a>.\n<li> JS fun from the past weeks:\n<ul>\n<li> Patch for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=452329\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=452329\">bug 452329<\/a>\n<li> Discovered <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=466585\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=466585\">bug 466585<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=467495\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=467495\">bug 467495<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469254\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469254\">bug 469254<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469405\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469405\">bug 469405<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469625\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469625\">bug 469625<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"jcranmer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> jcranmer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>Two week goals (End of week 2):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Move to toolkit password manager (in progress)\n<ul>\n<li> Made the decision to not migrate the password manager list to reflect up to date passwords &#8211; too many issues, not good enough solutions at the moment. Probably revisit post TB 3. This makes the task easier.\n<li> Submitted patch and tests for SMTP protocol handlers <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469807\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469807\">bug 469807<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Required so that toolkit password manager can use IOService.newURI.\n<\/ul>\n<li> LDAP already submitted <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\">bug 419595<\/a>\n<li> Now looking at POP\/IMAP\/News handlers.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Move Leak and Bloat tests to be controlled by MozMill\n<ul>\n<li> Made some good progress, now have a basic script and a good idea of how to refine it for the mozmill in leak &amp; bloat.\n<li> tracked down a number of mozmill\/jsbridge\/mozrunner integration issues.\n<li> Currently blocked by the mentioned mozmill issues &#8211; mainly that when using mozrunner\/jsbridge the APIs are limited such that we can&#8217;t actually choose to run Thunderbird.\n<ul>\n<li> MozMill team is working on improving APIs, hoping to get an updated version this week.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Write down extended roadmap overview for the address book (based on discussion during MoMo work week).\n<ul>\n<li> Started this, need to arrange meeting to discuss.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other work:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<li> Unit tests\n<ul>\n<li> Added some debugging to try and work out why we get an intermittent failure removing files <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=Bug\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=Bug\">462269 bug Bug 462269<\/a> (need to follow that up).\n<\/ul>\n<li> Build Config\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469392\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469392\">bug 469392<\/a> Let MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH define work in c++ code.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469396\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469396\">bug 469396<\/a> Don&#8217;t re-read version.txt when we don&#8217;t need to in our own tree.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469655\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469655\">bug 469655<\/a> Drop intermediate makefiles in mail\/themes\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469835\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469835\">bug 469835<\/a> Wrote patch for having different version numbers on comm-central + mozilla-central builds (versus comm-central + mozilla-1.9.1 builds)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Misc\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469090\">bug 469090<\/a> Edit vcard in Account Manager broken.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469797\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469797\">bug 469797<\/a> Hopefully fix nsUserInfoUnix so that displaying the User&#8217;s name in the account wizard will work correctly for non-ascii names.\n<li> Finished <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462147\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462147\">bug 462147<\/a> &#8211; allow TB to migrate SeaMonkey 2.x profiles.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (Start of week 1):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Complete Password Manager migration\n<li> Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill\n<li> Lead Address Book discussions\n<li> Investigate fixing LDAP Issues with threads and shutdown.\n<li> Look at Performance tests\n<ul>\n<li> Get some rough ideas of what &amp; how.\n<li> See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)\n<ul>\n<li> This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and driving\n<li> Took Friday off\n<li> Worked on fixing the open db bloat\n<li> Beta 1 Post Mortem scheduled for Thursday, 9:30AM PST\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 2):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Turn autoconfig branch into a reviewable patch for trunk\n<ul>\n<li> Brought auto config repo up to date with trunk changes. Deferring rest of work until I&#8217;ve finished the folder archiving work\n<\/ul>\n<li> Finish folder compaction changes and unit tests.\n<ul>\n<li> Code written; need to test\n<\/ul>\n<li> Reduce review queue backlog\n<ul>\n<li> Making progress on review queue\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 1)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Finish folder archiving work. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\">bug 451995<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"emre\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> emre <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> Buildbot\n<ul>\n<li> Great cleaning up starting this week\n<\/ul>\n<li> Signinig\n<ul>\n<li> Initial conversation with John\n<li> Our process will have to be different\n<\/ul>\n<li> Bouncer\n<ul>\n<li> We should get our own, keep the existing mirror network\n<li> <i>How many downloads for Thunderbird 3 Final<\/i>\u00a0?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web\n<ul>\n<li> SpreadThunderbird moving along\n<ul>\n<li> Drupal Security patches\n<\/ul>\n<li> Google Analytics\n<ul>\n<li> www.mozillamessaging.com <b>Done<\/b>\n<li> spreadthunderbird.com <b>Staging<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Cleaned up Webalizer for some Beta 1 Graphs (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/gozer.ectoplasm.org\/blog\/archive\/2008\/12\/blip-can-you-see-thunderbird-3-b.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gozer.ectoplasm.org\/blog\/archive\/2008\/12\/blip-can-you-see-thunderbird-3-b.html\">Blogged<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Infrastructure\n<ul>\n<li> Qualys security audit was a nice surprise\n<li> Working on getting us more hardware\n<li> More\/Better monitoring\/trending\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Driving and Bug Reviews\n<li> exptoolbar toolbar changes, not ready for push yet\n<ul>\n<li> Blog about better searching for mail, due out this week\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Two Week Goals (end of week 2):\n<ul>\n<li> Push new iteration of Conversation List into exptoolbar\n<ul>\n<li> Already pushed last week\n<\/ul>\n<li> Review Conversation Reader and continue to iterate on\n<ul>\n<li> Latest changes already pushed into reader\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Possible suggested new Component for new bugs?\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope <\/span> <\/h6>\n<p><a name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> My &#8220;pretty package name&#8221; fixup for directory names inside packages made 1.9.1 now (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453840\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=453840\">bug 453840<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rebron.org\/2008\/12\/16\/thunderbird-3-beta-1-press-roundup\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.rebron.org\/2008\/12\/16\/thunderbird-3-beta-1-press-roundup\/\">Press round-up<\/a> for Thunderbird 3 Beta 1.  Press was positive.\n<li> Web site is wrapping up design phase for hand-off to silver orange.  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rebron.org\/marketing\/website\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.rebron.org\/marketing\/website\/\">current files<\/a> See files dated December 11.\n<li> Google Analytics on MozillaMessaging.com will be getting it on SpreadThunderbird.com as well.\n<li> Workaround fix for What&#8217;s New page.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 2):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Support documentation, audit (see what we have on .org and .com) and plan for what we need for beta 2 and final release.\n<li> Web site production hand-off to silver orange and global teams.\n<li> Update SpreadThunderbird with analytics module, events module and printed materials.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"sipaq\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> sipaq <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"mkmelin\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> mkmelin <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>dmose, nth10sd, wsmwk, gozer, rebron, standard8, clarkbw, kairo, bienvenu, emre<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-16\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-16<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-16 From MozillaWiki last meeting | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details Tuesday, Dec 16, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; asuth nth10sd (Gary!) 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