{"id":1424,"date":"2011-11-04T10:02:58","date_gmt":"2011-11-03T23:02:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/?p=1424"},"modified":"2011-11-05T13:32:11","modified_gmt":"2011-11-05T02:32:11","slug":"converting-a-chrome-user-to-firefox","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/2011\/11\/04\/converting-a-chrome-user-to-firefox\/","title":{"rendered":"Converting a Chrome user to Firefox"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>[Update: before commenting, you should probably read <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/2011\/11\/05\/converting-a-chrome-user-to-firefox-a-follow-up\/\">this follow-up post<\/a> that clarifies certain things about this post.]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On my recent vacation I was staying with a family member, let&#8217;s call her Karen (not her real name).\u00a0 She was a Google Chrome user, and I managed to convert her to a satisfied Firefox user.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s what I learnt along the way.<\/p>\n<h3>tl;dr:<\/h3>\n<p>Bad things about the experience:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The third-party add-ons situation on Windows is awful.<\/li>\n<li>We need a &#8220;import history from Chrome&#8221; feature.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Good things about the experience:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Mozilla&#8217;s non-profit nature is compelling, if you know about it.<\/li>\n<li>AdBlock Plus is great.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>The Initial Situation<\/h3>\n<p>Karen is a moderately sophisticated computer user. She knows what a browser is, but didn&#8217;t know how many there were, who made them, or any notable differences between them.<\/p>\n<p>Her machine that is probably 2 or 3 years old, and runs Windows Vista.\u00a0 She had used IE in the past (not sure which version) but didn&#8217;t like it, switched to Chrome at some point &#8212; she didn&#8217;t remember how or why &#8212; and found it to be much better.\u00a0 She was running Chrome 14.0.835.202 (no, that&#8217;s not an IP address!) which was the latest stable version.<\/p>\n<p>She also had Firefox 3.6.17 installed, but judging from the profile she hadn&#8217;t used it much &#8212; there was very little history.\u00a0 She had the following Firefox add-ons installed:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Java Console 6.0.20 and 6.0.27.<\/li>\n<li>The .NET Framework Assistant.<\/li>\n<li>Some media player thing.<\/li>\n<li>Some Norton &#8220;safe search&#8221; toolbar, and Symantec IPS, whatever that is.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>(What is the Java Console?\u00a0 What is the .NET Framework Assistant?\u00a0 As far as I can tell they are (a) very common and (b) useless.)<\/p>\n<p>I told her that I worked on Firefox and suggested that she try it and she was open to the idea.\u00a0 I talked about the differences between Firefox and Chrome and some of my work on Firefox.\u00a0 The thing that caught her attention most was that Mozilla is a non-profit organization.\u00a0 She hadn&#8217;t known this and it appealed to her greatly &#8212; she said that browser speed and the non-profit nature were the two most important things to her.\u00a0 She was also somewhat interested when I said that Firefox had an ad-blocking add-on.\u00a0 At the end of the conversation, she agreed to let me install Firefox and make it the default browser.<\/p>\n<h3>Installing Firefox<\/h3>\n<p>I removed the existing Firefox profile manually &#8212; I wasn&#8217;t sure if this was necessary, but I definitely wanted a fresh profile &#8212; and then uninstalled Firefox through the Control Panel.\u00a0 I then installed Firefox 7.0.1.\u00a0 (BTW, I stayed with Karen for two weeks at this point, and I had deliberately waited until Firefox 7 was out before doing this because I knew it had much lower memory usage than Firefox 6.)<\/p>\n<p>An unexpected thing was that the Firefox installer asked me to close all the other running programs;\u00a0 it explained that this would mean that I wouldn&#8217;t have to reboot.\u00a0 I&#8217;m used to running Firefox on Mac and Linux so I&#8217;m not used to this, but I&#8217;m familiar enough with Windows that I wasn&#8217;t totally surprised.\u00a0 Still, it was annoying;\u00a0 Karen had MS Word and some other programs open and I had to go ask her if I needed to save anything before closing them.\u00a0 I realize this is Windows&#8217; fault, not Firefox&#8217;s, but it was an obstacle.<\/p>\n<h3>Starting Firefox<\/h3>\n<p>When I started Firefox it asked me if I wanted to make it the default browser and I said yes.\u00a0 (I explained to Karen how to switch the default browser back to Chrome if she was unhappy with Firefox.)<\/p>\n<p>It also asked me if I wanted to import history\/bookmarks\/etc from IE.\u00a0 But there was no equivalent for Chrome!\u00a0 Karen had a ton of bookmarks in Chrome, but fortunately she said she only used a handful of them so I was able to copy them manually into Firefox&#8217;s bookmarks toolbar (which I had to make visible).\u00a0 I&#8217;ve heard that someone is working on an &#8220;import from Chrome&#8221;\u00a0 feature to Firefox but I don&#8217;t know what the status is.\u00a0 We need it badly.<\/p>\n<p>Once Firefox started, another unexpected thing was the state of the add-ons in the new profile.\u00a0 The Symantec add-ons (including the ugly Norton toolbar) were present and enabled.\u00a0 I had to disable them in about:addons;\u00a0 I wanted to completely uninstall them but I couldn&#8217;t, the &#8220;uninstall&#8221; button just wasn&#8217;t present.\u00a0 The Java Consoles and the media player were disabled because they were incompatible with 7.0.1, but I was also not able to\u00a0 uninstall them.\u00a0 This horrified me.\u00a0 Is it a Windows-only behaviour?\u00a0 Whatever the explanation, the default situation in a fresh install was that Firefox had several unnecessary, ugly additions, and it took some effort to remove them.\u00a0 I&#8217;m really hoping that the add-on confirmation screen that has been added to Firefox 8 will help improve this situation, because this was the single worst part of the process.<\/p>\n<p>I then tweaked the location of the home and reload buttons so they were in exactly the same position as in Chrome.\u00a0 I probably didn&#8217;t need to do that, but\u00a0 with those changes made Firefox&#8217;s UI looked very similar to Chrome&#8217;s, and I wanted things to be as comfortable for her as possible.<\/p>\n<p>The best part of the process was when I installed AdBlock Plus.\u00a0 With Karen watching, I visited nytimes.com in Chrome, and I had to skip past a video advertisement before even getting to the front page, and then the front page had heaps of ads.\u00a0 Then I visited in Firefox &#8212; no video, no ads.\u00a0 It was great!<\/p>\n<h3>Follow-up<\/h3>\n<p>A week or two later I sent Karen a follow-up email to check that everything was ok.\u00a0 She said &#8220;All is well! The ad blocking is a great feature.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, Firefox has a new and happy user, but there were some obstacles along the way, and the outcome probably wouldn&#8217;t have been so good if Karen hadn&#8217;t had a Firefox expert to help her.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Update: before commenting, you should probably read this follow-up post that clarifies certain things about this post.] On my recent vacation I was staying with a family member, let&#8217;s call her Karen (not her real name).\u00a0 She was a Google Chrome user, and I managed to convert her to a satisfied Firefox user.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s what [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":139,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4559,30,4558,118],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1424"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/139"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1424"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1424\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1424"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1424"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/nnethercote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1424"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}