Meeting Notes Meetings notes from the Mozilla community

Friends of the Firefox team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs.

• Luís Miguel (aka Quicksaver) for reviewing, testing and providing feedback on all the findbar bugs that we’ve been working on the past couple of months!

Project Updates

Australis

• We’ve backfilled the TART performance data for Windows XP going back to about mid-April, and dumped it into Datazilla (thanks jmaher!).
  • The graphs paint a pretty interesting tale. Green is m-c, purple is UX. Each graph that you’re looking at is one of the subtests for TART. These graphs just came in, so we’re still verifying their accuracy.
• We’ve identified a m-c merge changeset that caused a regression across the board for UX, but didn’t seem to affect m-c. See bug 916859. Now the challenge is to determine *which* changeset in that merge caused the problem. Mike is going to chat with graphics and layout to see if they can point out any obvious culprits to try backing out. Failing that, manual bisection – which is going to be a real trick, since we’ll need to merge from UX every time.

Downloads API

Current:

• Development finished
• Landing features for the first Aurora build

Next:

• Fix intermittent failures
• Downloads Panel and Library front-end update
• Decommission nsIDownloadManager

Thumbnailing

Foreground thumbnailing

• fixed in bug 906615 (below): bug 809051 – Limit how often we thumbnail the page using the foreground service
• WIP patch: bug 809056 – reduce thumbnailing impact when there are no thumbnail service consumers

Background thumbnailing

• landed: bug 912763 – Disable background thumbnails on Beta
• landed: bug 906615 – Background thumbnail service shouldn’t overwrite existing thumbnails, or at least foreground thumbnails should be preferred
• landed: bug 910563 – gracefully handle remote process crashing
• landed: bug 898156 – crash in Background thumbnail generation @ mozilla::net::FTPChannelParent::OnStartRequest
• landed: bug 913171 – Intermittent browser_thumbnails_background.js | Captured URL should be currently expected URL
• resolved invalid: bug 903840 – Requests from BackgroundPageThumbs service show up in devtools panels
• resolved WFM due to bug 875986: bug 908962 – Investigate using bypass-history and -cache load flags in background thumbnail browser
• making progress: bug 896912 – Investigate test failures muted by bug 892875
• new: bug 916497 – Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | browser_thumbnails_redirect.js | Test timed out
• new: bug 915384 – Intermittent ASAN browser_thumbnails_background.js,browser_thumbnails_update.js

Places API asyncification

• Little progress across the board: Some undo-manger work is in review stage. Raymond updates his patch for Bug 887043 to support GUIDs – that’s also waiting for review. Marco is planning to all of these reviews done in the next couple of days.

Social API

• some important bug fixes backed out (914435, 904104, 914927, 914926), need to re-land, one has strings
• in SF this week for socialapi and talkilla meetings

e10s

• bug 666816 – Find bar
• bug 913155 – Submit crash reports
• bug 910436 – Helper App Service
• bug 910523 – Intermittent prob in about:home fixed
• Markh is investigating running browser-chrome tests with e10s
• Tom Schuster internship presentation on Thursday 1pm PDT

UX Updates

• Thailand + Indonesia research insights work week in Portland next week (Sept. 21-25)
  • Zhenshuo and Yuan will participate on Mon / Tues, Larissa will be there the entire week
  • Expect more insightful info about these countries soon!

• Notifications + Larry Menu cross-over
  • Boriss and Larissa reviewed notifications spec and redesigned Larry Menu overlap, and how some notifications can be hidden in the permissions area of the proposed Larry Menu
  • next iteration of the notifications spec coming, sorry it’s taking so long!

• Larissa has moved teams to the Strategy and Insights team (aww and yay)
  • but don’t worry, she’ll still be coming to these meetings and will continue to work on Firefox features!

• Talkilla
  • What the hell is this? We’re working on interesting applications of WebRTC in Firefox. In particular, two use cases:
    • Accountless, anonymous, peer-to-peer communication (video, chat, audio), possibly expanding into screen-sharing later.
    • With-accounts, allowing users to bring in contacts, mobile phones, etc
  • Out-of-date wiki – https://wiki.mozilla.org/Talkilla – will be fixed soon

Stand ups

Suggested format:

• What did you do last week?
• What are working on this week?
• Anything blocking you?

Please keep your update to under 1 minute!

gavin

(gavin’s Status Board)

paolo

(paolo’s Status Board)

mak

(marco’s Status Board)

enn

(Neil’s Status Board)

felipe

(felipe’s Status Board)

mano

(Mano’s Status Board)

ttaubert

(Tim’s Status Board)

adw

(Drew’s Status Board)

markh

(Mark’s Status Board)

smacleod

(Steven’s Status Board)

dolske

(dolske’s Status Board)

mconley

(Mike’s Status Board)

mikedeboer

(Mike’s Status Board)

gijs

(gijs’ Status Board)

Unfocused

(Blair’s Status Board)

MattN

(MattN’s Status Board)

jaws

(jaws’s Status Board)

mixedpuppy

(mixedpuppy’s Status Board)

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