Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-28

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-21

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, Apr 21st, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> asuth
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

• Planned Freeze Dates ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
  • Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)
  • Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)
  • Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)
  • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-05-07 (Thursday)
  • Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-12 (Tuesday)
• dmose is release driver
• gozer is build engineer

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b3 – blocking 61 (-8)
  • TB 3.0b3 – wanted 27 (+1)
  • b3ux 28 (-1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b3) 1 (0)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b3 – blocking 60 (+9)
  • TB 3.0b3 – wanted 19 (+4)

• Six weekly milestones ([m1] – [m6]) have been created to help spread out b3ux feature work across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.
  • davida driving [b3ux]
  • davida: too many bugs? slip or cut
    • various discussion; general feeling seemed to be that shipping was very important

• Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.
  • Please try and write at least one TestPlan this week

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap
• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 114 (-8)
  • TB 3 Needs: 3 (-2)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 19 (+3)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

• Test day is this Thursday see Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-04-23
• Litmus test run is next week
• Trying Webchat as a new way to engage users

Marketing Updates

IT update

• Saturday’s outage
  • Caused by our firewall hitting it’s connections limit
    • Caused by an accidental global increase in keepalive timeouts that should have been limited to chat.mozillamessaging.com
  • Resulted in degraded performance of all our web presences
  • Fully monitored now, and will not happen again

• All planned new hardware has been ordered
• Planned RAM upgrade has begun
  • 1 VMware Server has been upgraded
  • 1 is planned for this week
  • The other 2 will be next week

• chat.mozillamessaging.com is up and ready for some trial by fire

Roundtable

Status Updates

davida

dmose

nth10sd

• bug 440641 successfully triaged with hang stack.
  • Getting some more qawanted on my plate..
• More testcase reduction fun (JS-land).
• Mozmill has experimental modal dialog support, now waiting on templatized DOM trees patch (needed for folder selection on the left side for TB)

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving
• bug 489168 Leaking nsAbCardProperty when collecting addresses for email addresses that already exist in the address book.
• Send in background bug 440794
  • Fixed sending more than one message in a session.
  • Hooked up to shutdown service so that we’ll now finish sending if we’re already sending when user attempts to quit (note, this is currently affected by bug 459376
  • Had some discussions on how to fix/avoid the quit-application-requested bug (bug 459376).
  • Did some big re-factoring bug 489325 so we can get sane progress indications from the back-end to the front-end which will lead into doing retry on failure etc.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and driving
• Autoconfig is on the trunk, but not enabled in the UI yet – working through blocking issues with Philor.
• Smart Mailboxes patches in review process
• Worked on GMAil XLIST support
• Fixed exception in gloda folder deleted event listener, bug 488590
• Landed potential fix for hang on shutdown with open imap connectionsbug 487965
• speed up undoing move/delete of large number of local messages by using db batching, bug 488606
• make sure we playback offline events if you shutdown offline and restart online, bug 364082
• make longer network timeout for copying large number of imap messages, bug 409259

gozer

• Build
  • Investigate source based nightly/try builds bug 489338
  • Try Server Mac OS X issues look resolved

• Web
  • Saturday’s outage : #IT_update
  • chat.mozillamessaging.com up and ready for testing

• Infrastructure
  • All planned new hardware has been ordered
  • Colo Rack move will happen April 29th, more details still to come
  • We have a Jabber server now (backend to chat), would there be interest in opening this up ?

clarkbw

wsmwk

• resurrected bug 201332 [meta] bugs related to “Show only subscribed folders” option
• qa’d bug 486430 Mail Start Page disappears after right click
• qa’d bug 487965 hang on shutdown with open imap connections and zero cpu
• qa’d bug 487375 Severe performance issues on USB stick while deleting or receiving mail
• bugday – triage trunk unconfirmed with no previous comment
• profile manager – more banging on dataloss concerns
• cruisin

beckley

Penelope

• Synced Eudora source to latest TB 3.0b3pre sources, and next Eudora beta will be based on TB 3.0b3 released sources
• Talked to gozer and bhearsum about configuring updates for Eudora
• Worked some on that, but having problems with Venkman not breaking in some update wizard pages

KaiRo

rkent

rebron

Tsk

• Done :
  • Tested chat.mome
  • changed the look from chat.mome
  • Triaged some perf related bugs

• Continuing :
  • Test plans
  • Community engagement
  • Looking into mozmill

• Todo :
  • start thinking about 3.0
  • make the litmus testing sucessfull.

andreasn

• Got network running in the Vista VM and Dropbox to sync between the Desktop and the VM.

• Last week
  • Activity manager stuff
  • Vista: better looking sidebar.
  • Vista: lots of new icons

• This week
  • Get as many Vista icons in as possible
  • Track Linux changes in bugzilla and wiki.
  • Vista theme work.
  • XP theme work.

Attendees

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-04-14

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, Apr 14th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> dmose
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

• Planned Freeze Dates ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
  • Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)
  • Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)
  • Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)
  • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-05-07 (Thursday)
  • Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-12 (Tuesday)
• dmose is release driver
• gozer is build engineer

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b3 – blocking 69 (-5)
  • TB 3.0b3 – wanted 26 (+6)
  • b3ux 29 (-5)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b3) 1 (0)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b3 – blocking 51 (+1)
  • TB 3.0b3 – wanted 15 (+1)

• Six weekly milestones ([m1] – [m6]) have been created to help spread out b3ux feature work across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings / misses at the end of the cycle.
  • davida driving [b3ux]
  • davida: too many bugs? slip or cut
    • various discussion; general feeling seemed to be that shipping was very important

• Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan. This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.
  • Please try and write at least one TestPlan this week

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap
• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 122 (-3)
  • TB 3 Needs: 5 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 16 (+4)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

• Standard8 starting to pull together plans for the release.
  • eg nailing down specific dates
  • straw-man proposal for branching:
    • branch comm-central just before b3
    • lock down branch right after b3 ships

QA Updates

• Moved two initial test days to one -> Next Week
• Held a special bug day around QA wanted bugs
• Started a discussion on improving QA contributions
  • working with gozer on testing a replacement for IRC
• Would love to see more TestPlans (still only one so far)

Marketing Updates

• Improvements to SpreadThunderbird, layout changes, added a couple folks to the core team, added identica group and looking to do more in Facebook group. Targeting poster contest for next week.
• Working through steady stream of GetSatisfaction! questions.
• Press work/planning for launch.

Roundtable

• should we have an IT update?
  • Yes!

IT update

• gozer in MV to coordinate moving MoMo machine gear across racks
  • some downtime (probably April 29); more info to come
  • server hardware capacity of various close to maxed out; new hardware on order
    • RAM
    • CPU
    • blades
    • GPG-in-hardware cards for signing Tb3 builds

Status Updates

davida

dmose

• this past week
  • In Vancouver, BC list week to work with MoMo folks there
  • finished localizedRe unit test bug; should land today
  • 3.0b3 driving work
  • a few reviews
  • various calendaring discussions

nth10sd

• Mozmill work
• Planning for the summer
• Bugdays, b.m.o, …

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving
• Holidays (Easter)
• First patch for bug 466527 “Setting the mail start page to non-redirects causes bad display of what’s new tab” updated & pushed.
• Came to the conclusion that the patch written for bug 485395 (Never prompted for password, so auth always fails – log in failures with % or @ in username) was sufficient, therefore posted for review.
• Mozmill
  • More experiments – filed bug 487385 and bug 487391
  • Now in a position where we can try and move forward with getting versions of scripts that can run TB + mozmill for bloat and for automated tests.
  • Helpwanted: expand the current patches for TB + mozmill scripts to cover what we need, full explanation and what is wanted Bug 458352 comment 3
• Send in Background
  • bug 440794 Wrote patch to start integrating send in background with the shutdown service – this doesn’t work completely on all platforms because of bug 459376 doing WIP patch. The integration will ensure that if we are already sending an email when we try to shut down, we’ll wait until we have sent it before continuing.

Goals for this week:

• Send in background
  • Expand shutdown to cover pending messages to send.
  • Extend policy to cope with failures to send and deal with re-sends.

asuth

• refactoring, tests, more refactoring
• meetings
• multiple real world intrusions

bienvenu

gozer

• Build
  • Shark builds are now available
  • Trunk builds are GREEN again
  • Try Server
    • Getting good patch review love
    • Running all 3 platforms now
      • OS X is experiencing a lot of problems cloning hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central

• Web
  • SpreadThunderbird
    • Working with Paul on various Drupal upgrades

• Infrastructure
  • Colo Rack move will most likely happen April 29th, more details to come
  • New hardware being ordered today!

clarkbw

wsmwk

• working on beefing up triager ranks
  • extended bugzilla privs to macmel (ludo’s neighbor) and Jay Moran
  • in last 180 days: 1,384 bug filers, ~1,100 filing only one bug, 275 filing 2-3 bugs, 75 4-9 bugs, 35 >10 bugs
    • will do round 2 of recruiting from this info (round one happened spring 2008)
• good conversation with Josh Berkus (:jberkus) who is interested in advising on volunteerism come May
• bugday
• first pass on password/pwd bugs (and moving most to component=security)
• war on profile/startup bugs continues

beckley

Penelope

• Released new betas of Eudora and Penelope
• Crash symbols for all three OSes are up and working correctly
• Looking at getting updates to work
• Made a possible fix for bug 464616, but I don’t know for sure because I can’t get the bug to reproduce
• Fixed bug 488228 about:config being opened on restore when Pref window being opened

KaiRo

• bug 488116 a common unit test buildbot factory for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird is ready and should land within days
• bug 316387 preprocessing version numbers into module.ver for Windows .exe files has a patch now
• Early stage of talks and start of planning for MozCamp Vienna in October (local event on the open net, organized by Mozilla)
• working on Google Summer of Code application decisions

rkent

rebron

• Q2 – Q3 goal planning.
• Working through GetSatisfaction queue and drafting support requirements.
• Press work: Washington Post, other planning.

Tsk

Worked on :

• bug 487589 : input for this change welcome – the sooner we get this the better
• Reorganize Testing events
• Played a more with mozmill

Worked planned :

• Preparing test plan for next test day
• Prepare litmus test run
• Do some triage

andreasn

• Spent some time trying to get a Bluetooth headset to work.
• Gave up and bought a wired one instead, fought that a bit.
• Sent roadmap to David and Bryan
• Installed Vista and got it up and running.

• Last Week
  • Linux account central icons
  • Vista compose icons
  • Vista preferences icons

• This week
  • More Vista icons and theme work.
  • Activity manager work
  • Track Linux changes in bugzilla and wiki.

Attendees