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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-06-09

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Action Items



  • Autoconfig process – work in progress
  • Muting status meeting – gozer


Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

  • Planned Freeze Dates ( All dates use time of 23:59 PST )
    • Slushy String freeze date: TBD
    • Slushy Code Freeze date: TBD
    • Firm String / Code freeze date: TBD
    • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: TBD
    • Target Build Ship date: TBD
  • dmose is release driver
  • gozer is build engineer
  • Search (bug 474701) will be landing over the next week or two and then we’ll finish up the beta.
    • try server build while the patch is being reviewed
    • once it lands dates for b3 and b4.
  • Beta 3 stated as the release for all work with serious downstream work impact (ui, backend, l10n, etc). Anything that isn’t like that should be pushed out into Beta 4.
  • Blocking bugs are now allowed to be owned by
    • Changing this policy helps make the list better reflect reality w.r.t. which bugs are actually getting attention and which ones aren’t.

Folder pane refactoring – good progress obver last few weeks – a try server build to be posted today.
(bug + mdat) – people should give it a try and provide feedback as too regression – please refer to the
meta bug – The patch could land if nothing major show up.

Search patch – needs user experience work. A few days work before that. Reasonable shape for beta3.

dates to be decided later

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer

Not much to say on Beta 4 until B3 is sorted out.

Thunderbird 3

  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
  • Moved forward discussion on statistics & AUS.
    • Hoping to get work for AUS switch (to MoMo based server) started soon, maybe to happen before b3, if not, soon after.

QA Updates

  • Had our usual Bugday
  • A few contributors joined.
  • Bug flow seems lower than usual
  • Waiting fro rivers meeting to decide what to organize this week.

Marketing Updates

  • Heads down on Thunderbird icon refresh. Drafting creative brief.
  • Get Satisfaction integration moving along, blogging plans this week.

IT update

  • Created a corporate Wiki for company private information
    • Ask me for access (better, file a bug)
  • Infrastructure is in place to host our own blogs (WordPress)
    • If you need a blog hosted, let me know


  • transferring / retiring old content on
  • good feedback from recent activity on MDC

Have a look at the documentation on the Address book as it’s really well written.(
Feedback thru blog, email and thru a third channel.
Support site for Tb on mozilla .org and needs to move to


Status Updates

  • Found bug 497059 – Hang with unreliable wifi connection, either when re-connecting to email server, or on shutdown
    • Finally found its STR when struggling with home net downtime.
  • Found the regression window for bug 496273 – Cannot unsubscribe newsgroup (Error: server is undefined)
  • bugdays, QA, triage
  • qawanted bug 340168
  • patchlove bug 277043



  • 3.0b3 driving
  • MoMo goals work
  • calendaring planning; also attended CalConnect shared calendaring workshop
  • compact header view extraction work (found some issues; almost there)

  • Reviews & Driving
  • Landed bug 495232 dropping Palm Sync Support.
  • Started discussion on reorganising ftp directories bug 481685.
  • More tab & contentTabType improvements
  • bug 440794 Send in background
    • bug 28211 Worked on fixing up the copy to sent folder prompts to give automated retry and fall back so that we can avoid the requirement for a modal prompt in the middle of the send code.


  • Reviews and Driving
  • Landed possible fix for bug 492963, crash in [@morkTableRowCursor::NextRow]
  • Fix crashes with offline imap operations, bug 480090
  • Add reverse message enumerator to db so folder summary can show newest messages bug 495109
  • Fixed smart archives folder to use archive icon, bug 496562
  • Fixed cleanup of msg database in news tests that lead to some leaks/failures once the rest of the profile was cleaned up at the end, bug 496557
  • Add some checks for null obj->options and obj->options->state as potential fix for occasional crash stats stack in MimeMultipart_parse_line bug 482879
  • Make mimemsg resilient in the face of multiple attempts to stream the same message, bug 495304
  • Make next unread land on actual message instead of collapsed thread, bug 495642
  • Make summarize selection defer rapid repeated calls, bug 496318
  • Fix crash in hdr property enumerator if msg hdr gets deleted first bug 492116
  • Fix missing/duplicate imap msg hdr issues, bug 414723
  • Fixed crash replying to multiple messages, bug 495665
  • Don’t load first message in collapsed thread before displaying summary, bug 495304
  • Landed Bron Gondwana’s patch to add support for IMAP RFC 4978, IMAP Compress bug 401673

Next week – more work on stability issues, and gloda-related patches

cc davidb for stability bugs


Back from vacation!

  • Build
    • Small fix to clobberer
    • Completed pooling of all builders across all platforms
  • Infrastructure
    • Corporate intranet
      • Ask for access if you need it
    • MozillaMessaging hosted WordPress-MU ready
      • Ask for access if you need it

  • ui-reviews
  • wrote a Jetpack to review it’s extension mechanism
    • would be nice to have a similar system in thunderbird
  • going over icon polish bugs

  • extended bugzilla editbugs privs to: 1 person, 2 more in the works
  • notable: some lost profile/prefs issues should be fixed by bug 477934 nsSafeFileOutputStream (prefs.js) not safe from system crashes. Landed on trunk 2009-05-12. It will also be applied to and picked up by TB2
    • This fix to Safe file stream will increase the probability of problems with virus scanners along the lines of Bug 438316 – Safe File Outputstreams conflict with file monitoring tools. Will post on mdat about.
  • bug triage
  • filed bug 495978 Thunderbird does not appear in selection list of talkback topcrashes


  • bug 376511 – Session Management: Toc view column ordering not remembered between launches
  • bug 487167 – need option to always display tabs
  • bug 496369 – Junk and Trash mailboxes opened when “automatically open mailboxes that receive new messages” is selected, reading focus is changed.
  • bug 457745 – Filters: Auto-assign a meaningful name.




  • did
    • usual Triage, Bugday, adding tests in litmus
    • worked on ISP config a bit
    • worked on a bit
    • Last monday was Off
  • Ongoing
    • ISP
    • Preparing b3 testing

  • Last week
    • Attended Swedish Mozilla meetup
    • Lots of icon fixes on WinXP
    • Activity manager bug 476695
    • Trying to get the Account central patch to work without success.
    • Trying to figure out a Ubuntu/Firefox issue that’s haunting us as well. bug 426930
  • This week
    • Built TB on Mac
    • Multiple messages css bug 492158
    • Autoconfiguration layout
    • Account central (if I can get it to work)
    • Compose icon experiments



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