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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-07-21

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :


  • Who’s taking minutes? –> bienvenu
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items



  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon, i.e., move the webapp to a place where more people can access it.


Thunderbird 3 Beta 3

  • Mirrors currently absorbing the bits
  • Finishing touches being put onto the web content
  • We’re shipping today!
  • W00t!

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Standard8 will start going through the various bug lists this week and start to think more about schedule for b4 and rc1.
  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

  • Testing against builds priors to build1 a success as most issues were found and some fixed for Build1. No blockers found.
  • Test results For 3.0b3.
  • Crash stats looks ok – but usage seems low due to summer
  • No big change landing at the last minute helped a lot.

Marketing Updates

  • Welcome to Roland Tanglao who will be leading the end-user support program!

IT update

  • Migrating to our own AUS server is complete bug 487629
  • Moving OS X builds to 10.5 is complete bug 500676
  • All MoCo build machines can now be retired
  • Building and Releasing Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 3
  • New hire process



Status Updates

  • In Hong Kong again for just over a month.
  • Beta 3 litmus testing, esp. on Linux.
  • Created SM equivalent of review? / superreview? charts.
  • Picking back up on patchlove (back to 0 already), and qawanted.
  • Continuing Mozmill re-familiarisation by refreshing a bit of Python and Javascript.



  • Last week: 98% 3.0b3 work
  • This week: W-F, OSCON w/davida
  • Vacation: Monday, July 27 – Weds, August 5


Next week:

  • Hook mozmill targets up to httpd server
    • The aim here is to a) see how httpd server is hooked up for reftests etc. b) learn how to apply that to mozmill, c) then apply to fake servers.
    • Also so that I can write some tests for cookie & remote content policies.
  • Do the POP patch for bug 121647 POP/IMAP server passwords are inappropriately forgotten.
  • Pick up send in background work again.


  • Reviews and Triage
  • On vacation most of last week
  • Added filtered enumerator to msg db to allow js code to avoid creating unneeded msg hdrs when looking for messages bug 499806
  • Fixed bug 500216 – Disable a number of commands when collapsed thread is selected (e.g., reply, view source, etc)
  • Worked on bug 323875 imap undo fails if source folder has been expunged (which is always true for gmail)
  • Worked on test_nsMsgDBView.js so I could add a test case for bug 505321

Next Week:

  • Finish imap undo fix
  • Start looking into autosync space/time policy and auto-compact

  • Build
    • All our builds (Beta 3 included) are now on our own aus server
    • Completed migration to OS X 10.5 across the board
    • All remaining MoCo build machines can now be given back
    • Build & Release of Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 3
  • Web
    • Content for Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 3
    • AUS latency and logging improvements
  • Infrastructure

  • vacation
  • ui-reviews
  • will be catching up this week




  • All activities centering around the SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 release, which is happening today in sync with Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 3
  • Release automation worked beautifully, with the exception of not knowing how to bump version-191.txt, which I wrote a patch for and should check into build/tools rsn (review is there, just need to find time)
  • A few smaller issues during running the release from automation were specific to the SeaMonkey VMs, not the release automation tooling itself.



  • Last week
    • Testing
  • Upcoming week

  • Last week
    • Away on vacation
  • This week
    • Catch up on bug mails.
    • Vista theme work bug 488060
    • More quick account setup design
    • Look into that no dialogs get clipped bug 504042


Last week:

  • Worked a lot on unit tests for bug 465269.
  • Put up patch for bug 502856.
  • Created a Windows XP VM, installed the dev tools, got the source code, and started building TB on Windows for bug 495478.

This week:

  • Started Monday – Technical Support Lead
  • Love to hear from people with ideas/suggestions/feedback on Thunderbird support especially those who are already doing it. Please catch me on IRC #maildev as well as email


dmose, bienvenu, asuth, gozer, ludovic, roland, rafael, bwinton, beckley, nth10sd, clarkbw, kairo, wsmwk

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