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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-07-28

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Action Items



  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon, i.e., move the webapp to a place where more people can access it.


Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer
  • Main things we want to land:
    • gloda (by default)
    • background sending,
    • message headers improvements
    • autoconfig
      • With ispdb
      • locales string
    • autosync space/time policies sorted out.
  • This week will see more aggressive cutting down of the blocking and proposed bugs, figuring out what we don’t really need for the release
  • Proposed Dates (any feedback to Standard8 please):
    • Friday, September 11th is the proposed target for code freeze
    • Tuesday September 22th, is the proposed estimated release day
    • Following with the final string freeze 1 week after release
    • RC1 proposed date Tuesday, November 3rd for code freeze
    • Final release dates will depend on RC1

Thunderbird 3

  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

  • Usage of TB3.0b3 is going up as are crash-stats -> bugs are being updated to reflect usage we see.
  • Tb3.0b3 was released last week – Auto-update in progress.
  • Normal bug day for this week.

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 press – Total Articles: 51; Total Original: 23; Total Pick ups: 28; highlights: Lifehacker and c|Net articles
  • Good response at OSCON on Thunderbird 3 progress.
  • Still on iteration 4 for Thunderbird logo, expecting to wrap up designs this week.

IT update

  • All MoCo build machines have been be retired
  • ISPDB is now available for restricted preview
    • Ask me on irc if you want/need access
  • Calendar OS X build machine is back in business
    • Nightly Lightning/Sunbird builds are back
  • Staging buildbot master is up and running
    • Currently helping getting MozMill tests up and running


Jen is on vacation until the end of the month

Roundtable is coming up

Status Updates

  • (TB UNCO bugs < 2k now. Yay!)
  • Thunderbird 3 Beta 3 changelog @ The Rumbling Edge
  • Discovered crasher bug 505974 while fiddling with Mozmill.
  • patchlove mostly settled.
  • Chatted with Roland on support.
  • Regular QA, triage, bugdays.
  • qawanted – bug 476708


Will be working part-time while in school

  • Last Week:
    • OSCON
  • This week
    • Account central & folder summary patch pushing
    • Fixing up thread summary bugs
    • Pushing ahead on ISPDB

  • vacation

  • Reviews & Driving
  • Mozmill
    • Landed the new make mozmill & make mozmill-one code.
    • Helping Gozer set up buildbot. Currently trying to sort out issues with running mozmill under buildbot.
    • Mozmill has internal version of httpd server. Example of use on bug 492279.
  • Created POP version of the patch for bug 121647 POP/IMAP server passwords are inappropriately forgotten. Currently writing unit test.

Next week:

  • Finish off bug 121647
  • Pick up send in background work again.

  • working on performance investigation
  • working on things required to pref gloda on

  • Reviews and Driving
  • Helped a bit with the fix for bug 249841, offline imap body search issues
  • Fixed bug 505487 – regression in custom header begins/ends with matching, and separate regression in search ui enabling/handling of custom headers.
  • Added basic xpcshell search tests, including one to catch above regression
  • Fixed mark read on exit handling, bug 503624, and added xpcshell test for the feature.
  • Cleaned up imap undo code a bit in preparation for fixing undo after expunge, bug 323875
  • Fixed adding of new headers to open cross-folder threaded saved searches, bug 505321, added a test for that to test_nsMsgDBView.js, and fixed the error detection functions in that file so that they detect errors.
  • Started work on auto sync disk usage constraints bug 482476 – wrote patch to enable marking of msg headers as pending removal so that offline store compaction will reclaim space, pending review.

Next week

  • Continue and I hope finish work in IMAP undo bug 323875
  • Continue work on auto sync disk usage constraints
  • Other b4 blockers

  • Build
    • Updates to Beta 3 are almost ready to ship bug 506230
    • Assisting Standard8 in getting MozMill tests running on buildbot
    • Hunting down OS X Nightly issues bug 505191
  • Web
    • ISPDB is in preview
  • Infrastructure
    • Staging buildbot server up and running


Last Week

  • ui-reviews
  • catching up on missed work

This week

  • Header refinement and roundup
  • Autoconfig work

  • triaging
    • now that bug 499926 is fixed – add Thunderbird to talkback topcrashes – crossreferrencing TB2 crashes to trunk crashes
    • adding 3.0b3 topcrashes
    • SM crashers and mailnews – another pass
    • usual stuff


  • Fixed up window save/restore after recent tab changes in TB
  • Hope to have a new beta of Eudora/Penelope this week

  • Released SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 in 17 languages and with partial and complete updates fully working from day 1
  • Got a fix into the release harness to make it understand our version-191.txt files for bumping
  • Convinced the SeaMonkey team to target a September 1 freeze for 2.0 Beta 2
  • Need to get final done before November to stay mentally somewhat sane


  • Marketing planning for remainder of the year.
  • Mozilla Camp Europe Call for papers, please take a look.


done :

  • Finished Tests for 3.0b3
  • Tested auto-updates


  • Start thinking about Migrating from 2.x -> 3.x
  • Prepare test day for beta4

  • Last week
    • Got a Vista machine and set up the build.
    • Lots of Vista icons and theme fixes.
    • Quick account layout bug 506290
    • Look into that no dialogs get clipped bug 504042
  • This week


Last week:

This week:

  • spoke with nth10sd about QA and support and bugzilla and ludo as well about support and QA
  • getting my feet wet with actual support, answered two far
  • working on 506473 linking to instead of getsatisfaction/mozilla/products/mozilla_thunderbird
  • familiarizing myself with Get Satisfaction and how we can use it for support


davida, gozer, Standard8, rebron, nth10sd, asuth, bienvenu, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, KaiRo, Tsk, bwinton, roland

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