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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-22

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Action Items


  • We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what’s new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we’ve changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page. (jz: see
  • Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build



Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

  • Schedule (proposed, may change):
    • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST
    • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
    • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
  • If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

Last week:

  • b4 tests builds were on time.
  • Community joined the effort (with around 10/12 people testing.)
    • Test coverage is 95%. Mostly green
    • We’ll need to update some test – work is already in progress on that.
    • 29 Bugs were found during testing (some are duplicates), complete list of bug is visible here
    • Detailed results are visible on litmus
  • Thanks to everybody who gave time to test

This week:

Marketing Updates

  • Press watch: Thunderbird Ups the Email Ante
  • Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 – will be tracking press as it rolls in.
  • Launch prep. Press tour scheduling, and asset work.
  • Meeting w/ board this week to discuss marketing messages.

IT update

  • Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 4
  • ISPDB is open for public consumption
    • More tweaks pending
  • Automation a few bugs so should be better next time.
  • Mac minis are at gozer for more builders



  1. Top 5 GS Support Topics (code in progress: )
    1. Cannot receive email (hotmail, other pop, imap)
    2. Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it)
    3. Cannot migrate email from old profile to new profile or old computer to new computer
    4. Forwarding email (how to delete recipients address and forwarding doesn’t work)
    5. Attachments (computer hangs, thunderbird crashes, attachments corrupted)
  2. Support Plan for Thunderbird 3
    1. behind on finishing SUMO evaluation, found a few bugs but appears to be functional for our needs – should be able to catch up this week
    2. behind defining KB issues & new features to document for Thunderbird 3 – should be able to catchup this week
  3. Support Day: September 17, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific including Vancouver Mozilla Service Week event in the afternoon:
    1. solved a problem with gmail IMAP in #thunderbird, “solved” by upgrading to TB3 Beta3
    2. About a dozen folks at Service Week Event: very brief Thunderbird discussion was about Lightning and Calendering in general, majority was about CMSes like Drupal, WordPress and Joomla
  4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    1. approximately 15 / day
    2. total new topics:86 total replies: 111
    3. have ruby code in progress to semi-automate top 5 issues, relies on manual tagging, scheduled to finish this week
    4. #replies from non MoMo folks: 2 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philip and wilkommen!) 8 from Tom (thanks!) 16 from TMZ (our newest official rep, thanks and welcome!) MoMo folks: 5 from Rafael (thanks!), 87 from Roland (I am going to do less this week to focus on Support Plan, SUMO, etc)
    5. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress:, manual happiness metric = 91 – 87 = 4


during updates (beckley iirc), davida mentioned errutils extension for picking up keyboard events. This page for errutils and reporting tools is linked off of Thunderbird Extensions.

Status Updates


  • driving, driving, driving
  • some bugs

  • Mostly focussed on making headers customizable work (bug 465138)
  • Misc reviews & landings
  • Driving



  • Reviews and Driving
  • On vacation Wednesday-Sunday
  • Make sure we force closed the db for imap folder getting deleted even if the folder doesn’t have the db cached, fixes issues with folders not disappearing after moving/deleting/emptying trash bug 513012
  • Worked on rc1 blockers

Next week

  • RC1 blockers
  • Reviews and Driving

  • Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 4
    • Build automation slowed things down some, next time will be great.
  • Mac OS X comm-1.9.1 nightly builds are slower, but stable now
  • Mac OS X comm-central nightly builds busted by what smells like a gcc bug bug 516858
  • Mac Minis have arrived
  • ISPDB tweaks and opening up
  • SpreadThunderbird drupal updates


  • bug 442222 Update About > Credits for Thunderbird3
    • revised form
    • added more names
  • bug triage
  • fixed 16 litmus tests, vetted about 25



  • SeaMonkey 2.0 driving – final schedule is up at SeaMonkey:Releases:2.0 now
  • Worked on Lightning support for SM 2.0 together with other SeaMonkey contributors, should be in good shape now
  • Helped gozer with his questions on build automation



Last week

  • Beta 4 work.
  • More launch planning. Need to coordinate w/ Firefox team on timing.

This week

  • Blog about Thunderbird icon and file bugs to include in product.
  • Hand off web site content to l10n, pascalc, etc.


Last week :

  • TB3.0b4 testing

This week :

  • focus back to try to get more people to the QA effort.
  • clean up some litmus test
  • catching up on bugmail



Last week:

This week:


Last week:

  • helped Rafael push out 6 or so updates for Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 website updates

This week:

  • Spread Thunderbird, coordinate pro-bono Drupal designer
  • Perhaps start working with campus program students to help out with support



bittin bwinton jenzed standard8 dmose _Tsk_ davida rebron gozer roland clarkbw bienvenu wsmwk beckley rkent andreas kairo

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