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Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-28

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Friends of the Tree

Jane wrote in last Tuesday:
“Please can I nominate Mary Colvig for all her tremendous work on Mozilla Service Week this week (its only Tuesday and she’s already done so much!). She’s work tirelessly to get the project off its feet, brought incredible partners on board and encouraged our community on a global level to participate to do even more good in the world.
Also big shout outs to: Austin – “King of the Mozserve website”, Krupa & Stephen “Prince & Princess of QA” Donner.”

Ludovic wrote:
“The thunderbird QA team would like to nominate the following people to be friends of the tree, Christoph Grether, Jens Müller, and Thomas D., or the very good feedback, and bugs they reported against the new search feature of Thunderbird.”

Gozer wrote in:
“I wish to nominate Henry Nester for friend of the tree. He is our #1 thunderbird 3 tester by far and a key part of the push to Thunderbird 3, primo tester of .de locale build, an awesome spot check tester of localized builds, and also a great bug reporter.”

Development Updates


( Projects | Status | Goals | People )

Firefox 3.6 (Namoroka)

  • The new Troubleshooting Information (about:support) page landed on trunk and branch (bug 367596)
  • Lightweight theme support has landed (aka: native Personas) through presently the gallery at doesn’t recognize the native client support
  • we have 27 front end blockers to knock down, 7 of which to complete before beta
  • a beta schedule should be available by tomorrow’s development meeting

Firefox Future

  • ongoing theme development work for Firefox 3.7 and 4.0, discussions in dev-apps-firefox
  • targetting find-tab-in-awesomebar for Firefox 3.7

Team News

  • We reviewed the past quarter, and felt like we did well as a team despite not making as much progress on startup time as we’d hoped. Comments welcome!
  • Firefox’s team goals for Q4 have been set with a focus on ensuring a stable, high quality Firefox 3.6 product is shipped and looking towards the future with work on Firefox 3.7 and Electrolysis.


  • Last week we proposed a set of goals for Q4. I’ve received some great feedback, and there will be changes.
  • We’re going to be changing/removing a few goals in order for us to focus on crashes on a massive scale. Friday evening, we formed a small team to kill top crashers. Over the next several weeks we plan to dramatically reduce those crashes.
  • Speaking of crashes, last week the CoolIris team released an update to their plug-in that triggered a spike in crashes in the plug-in, resulting in their plug-in being the top crasher in Firefox 3 and 3.5. They worked over the weekend, along with guys on our team who helped identify the issue, to back out the changes.
  • It’s spikes like the above that demonstrate the importance of completing out of process plug-ins. Last Friday, I saw a demo–and I hope we see a blog post/video demo soon–of flash running out of process in our browser, where killing the process running flash left the browser running fine. Maybe Ben Turner can share that with the world soon?  😉
  • Blockers:
    • P1: 34
    • P2: 93
    • P3: 0
    • Other: 2
  • Team blocker numbers:

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Firefox 3.5.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x


  • Shipped 3.0b4
  • Hard at work on patches for the 3.0 string freeze, which is tomorrow (Tuesday, September 29, 23:59 Pacific)
  • Please help by testing nightly builds and providing constructive feedback and filing bugs!




Last Week

Release Engineering

  • turned off build-and-unittests
    • Now running unittests separately from builds.
    • Unittests still visible on tinderboxpushlog and tinderbox on *-Unittests
    • last step in separate unittests from builds
    • now have unittests for optimized and debug builds
    • easier to rerun tests on a given build; job on weekends to rerun tests ‘n’ times in a row.


This was a big week for goals. Reviewed Q3 top level goals along with completed first draft of Q4 top level goals (to be posted soon).

Test Execution

Web Dev Testing

  • Completed final testing for SUMO 1.4 release last week!
  • Blogged about testing search in AMO 5.1 (and beyond)
  • Continuing to converted a manual AMO test cases to automated selenium test cases

Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Community

  • Accessibility:
    • Published a blog post highlighting what’s happening in Mozilla-funded accessibility projects.
    • First alpha release of the Firebug Accessibility Extension is coming. This is an extension that helps test web sites for accessibility, WAI-ARIA and otherwise.
  • Community:
  • Metrics: Worked with Murali to automatically get dashboards for Web Test projects (or any project). It’s really cool. Example dashboard.

Test Development




Mozilla Service Week

  • Please share your “Stories” for our round up next week. Post on or email mary @ mozilla dot com.
  • Total pledge hours: Over 13,000
  • Reported hours to-date: 7,177
    • Please submit your hours and get your certificate!


  • OpenWebCamp Silicon Valley September 26, 2009, Stanford, CA – We sponsored this event and had a few MoCo employees in attendance at the event.
  • Scalable Vector Graphics Open 2009 October 2 – 4, 2009, Mountain View CA.  We are sponsoring this event – there will also be a few MoCo employees in attendance.
  • Jornadas Regionales de Software Libre en ChileOctober 7 – 9, 2009, Santiago, Chile – Sponsoring event and bringing together the Mozilla Hispanic Community. + 2 day MozCamp Prior. It’s almost here!  We have a schedule for MozCamp Chile and the schedule for JRSL.  At JRSL Seth and Chofman will both be keynoting in addition to 4 other MoCo talks throughout Wednesday – Friday.  Please check out the wiki to see all of the work that has gone into making these events a reality –
  • Philippine Blog Awards October 9, 2009 in Luzon, Philippines – Sponsoring this even in order to continue to build the Philippiine community and Tagalog locale.
  • Free Software and Open Source Symposium (FSOSS) October 29 – 30, 2009 Toronto, Canada.  We are sponsoring this event.  We currently have representation from both Mozilla Foundation and Corporation speaking.
  • Add-on-Con December 2009, Mountain View, CA.  We are sponsoring this event and starting to build sessions aroudn the event theme.


  • Next community marketing call is on Oct. 7th at 10 a.m. PDT/17:00 UTC
    • Dial-in Info: +1.650.903.0800, followed by 92# and then 7391#
    • Or you can use our toll-free number: +1.800.707.2533, followed by 369# and then 7391#. If you’re outside the US, use Skype to call in with our toll-free number.
    • You can also watch the meeting live in Open Video at air mozilla
    • For those that can’t make the call or want to participate online, join us in #marketing on IRC (



  • Why don’t users upgrade their browser?
    • You may remember our findings when we looked at why Fx2 users refused to upgrade to Fx3 (reason #1 was related to the Location/Awesome bar). With the 3.0.14 -> 3.5.3 Major Update offer going out this week, we’re going to run the same survey.


  • Mozilla Developer Center
    • Lots of progress on Firefox 3.6 documentation last week, lots more to come this week.
    • As always, don’t forget to add the dev-doc-needed keyword to bugs that may impact developer documentation. You don’t even have to wait until there’s a patch.
    • IT updated MDC to MindTouch 9.08.
      • See this blog post for more information.
      • A bug in 9.08 has broken the language selector pop-up menu; we’re pressing MindTouch for a fix.
    • A massive, seemingly botted, spam attack led us to disable new user account registration last week until we figure out how they’re bypassing the captcha. We’re working on this. See this blog post for details.
  • MozCampEU – Evangelism Europe will be there in spades. Looking for cool demos and WebGL stuff.


Developer Tools



  • SUMO 1.4 – 49 fixed bugs – Launched last Thursday
  • Firefox for Mobile support site going into prod tomorrow
  • AMO 5.1 – 97 fixed bugs – Launches Tuesday (9/29)


  • Finalized our Q4 goals
  • L10n team will travel to MozEU in Prague, l10n track can be found here.
  • Firefox 3.6 beta 1 is still in string freeze, so please check in changes
  • Philippines brownbag this afternoon at 4 PM MV time

Foundation Updates

  • Bugzilla HTTP API deploying this week. Send any comments (and offers of testing) to Gerv.
  • Thanks to everyone who helped with the I Love the Web wave on OneWebDay. Great community participation and creativity. See slide show here.
  • Latest mockup for redesigned Getting Involved page has been posted. Comment on the blog post and let us know what you think.


Other Business

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