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7-September-2011

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-07

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Firefox/Planning/2011-09-07


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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL
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Actions from Last Week

  • Dave Mason to come back with information about jetpack adoption metrics as viewed through AMO
    • In August 22% of new add-ons were built with add-on sdk(jetpack)
    • the trend is rising


(source: fligtar!)

    • We are going to be adding new stats to pull from AMO soon including:
      • number/percentage of new authors submitting new SDK-based addons
      • number/percentage of existing authors (of either traditional or SDK-based addons) submitting new SDK-based addons
      • number/percentage of SDK-based addons
      • number/percentage of SDK-based updates to SDK-based addons (with and without repacks)
      • number/percentage of SDK-based updates to traditional addons
  • Michelle to scour mobile “flash fail” feedback to see if it’s clustered around a small number of sites

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

  • Next source migration date: 2011-09-27 (20 days)

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 6)

  • Watching to see if we need to do any more rapid response updates for the DigiNotar CA stuff
  • Firefox 3.6.23 is the update that will ship with Firefox 7
    • It was originally called .21 and then .22 but those were used up by rapid response updates
      • Aside: This is why we started to use code names for previous releases (“Macaw”), but note in the new process they are not needed (Firefox 7 stayed Firefox 7 even though we slipped 2 rapid response releases in there)

Beta (7)

  • Release date: 2011-09-27 (20 days)
  • Building 7.0b5 today, plan to get it out the beta audience before the weekend

Aurora (8)

Nightly (9)

Firefox Mobile

6

  • Updates out for CA stuff

7

  • Landed a checkerboarding fix

8

  • Landed a checkerboarding fix

9

  • Startup improvements
  • Tablet UI
  • Locale Picker is almost ready
    • Christian asked if the server side is ready
      • mfinkle said that plan to use AMO for Beta and Release but working with RelEng for Nightly and Aurora to host them straight out of ftp
    • Christian asked if desktop was going to do something similar down the road to reduce the need for repacks, etc
      • mfinkle says currently no plans
      • Axel says there are different platform considerations for desktop vs mobile which is why they aren’t the same
  • Checkerboarding fixes

Firefox Sync

Add-on Builder

  • Add-on Builder has moved to weekly releases
  • Next week’s release will introduce support for pushing your add-ons from the Builder directly to AMO for review and consumption
  • Tentatively targeting Q1 2012 for our 1.0 launch

Add-on SDK

Release (1.0 -> Firefox 5 & 6)

  • 1.0 -> 1.1 repack testing commenced last week
  • AMO blocker bug identified and fixed (fix might have been pushed to production last Thursday; unclear)
  • dbuc in charge of repack testing, should report back on progress today

Stabilization (1.1 -> Firefox 7)

  • no blockers identified in 1.1rc1 candidate build spun last week
  • final release remains on schedule for next Tuesday, September 13
  • draft of release notes

Development (1.2 -> Firefox 8)

  • development continues apace
  • will merge to stabilization branch next Tuesday, September 13
  • will spin 1.2a1 test build next Tuesday, September 13
  • final release on schedule for Tuesday, October 25

Input 4.3

  • 0.1 release for Grouperfish targeted for the end of this week. Integration for the end of September.
  • Tell Us More slated for end of September, beginning of October. Bugzilla code is all done, waiting for resources for Input to become available.

Other Notes:

  • Surveying Add-ons Developers for integrating Input into AMO. So far, so good! Next steps are to analyze the information with fligtar/Asa and talk about developer resources

Feedback Summary

Desktop

  • Keyboard/mouse button bound to close doesn’t close tab but window instead. It was broken in 4 but there weren’t that many reports. In the last two weeks, hundreds. bug 685225
  • Greasemonkey (in conjunction with maybe Tab Mix Plus) causes the middle-click to make new tab shortcut to stop working. They have a fix; please review.
  • Lots (400+ this week) of “Exc in ev handl: TypeError: X” warnings (the next words are all over the map). I’m pretty sure at least half of these can be traced to McAfee siteadvisor.
  • Perhaps higher crashes/hangs over the last two weeks. Some comments about needing to disable Flash.
  • Some comments that 6.0.1/6.0.2 broke the Facebook wall (sumo link). Caused by extensions.
  • I’m getting used to a higher baseline of malware. *sadface*. So, not above normal, but above pre-Firefox 5 levels.

Mobile

  • 25 new threads on SUMO this week, majority of votes for existing threads are support for new devices and flash player
  • Android Market reviews for Release v6 (597 total): 145 1 & 2 star ratings this week, 56=slow/unstable representing 38.7% of below-average ratings; 14 below-average ratings cited need for flash player
  • Input feedback this week: 93 issues w/ release v6: 12 are flash-related, 9 are too slow
  • http://www.meetup.com/Firefox-Android-superheroes/ Join Us!

UX & User Research

Mobile UX

Market Insights

Desktop

  • Tweaks to the Chromium extensions interface show a change from “disable” being the user action, to showing checkboxes of which extensions are “enabled”.
  • Google showed a narrowing focus, with many projects either moving to monetise or be EOL’d. App Engine’s pricing model was criticised, and the following projects were ended: Aardvark, Desktop, Fast Flip, Google Maps API for Flash, Google Pack, Google Web Security, Image Labeler, Notebook, Sidewiki and Subscribed Links.
  • NetApplications reported browser share for August showing a slight (0.25%) erosion for Firefox globally. Forecasts are that Internet Explorer will be under 50% of browser market by mid 2012 – although given the fragmentation of IE (5 major versions in market by then), it isn’t clear what “IE” is apart from a brand. Microsoft responded that IE9 share on Windows 7 is the metric they are concerned about.
  • Windows 8 behind schedule? In a blog post, Steven Sinofsky indicated several Windows 8 features would not be available for the Windows 8 build to be released at BUILD.
  • Windows 7 update – easier to update IE9. An update for Windows 7 made it less likely that a user needs to rebook a system after upgrading from IE8 to IE9.
  • The Palemoon fork of Firefox (for Windows only) is tracking rapid release, but indicated it would not issue a 6.0.1 update, referring users instead to SUMO.

Mobile

Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • Opera launched an HTML5 app store aimed at TV and home entertainment devices
  • Dolphin introduced Dolphin user accounts with version 6.2 of Dolphin HD, which are used for bookmark syncing
  • Net Applications puts Safari as the top mobile browser, followed by Opera Mini. Stats Counter reports differently
  • Baidu announced the release of an Android-based mobile OS, called Baidu Yi
  • Asia-Pacific leads the world in smartphone use, reveals a survey by Google and Ipsos

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Questions, Comments, FYI

  • 3.6 EOL?
    • Assume the current direction: we’re doing updates until you hear differently
  • Christian is talking with some people about the plan to prompt 3.6 users to go to Firefox 6+ with an advertised update
    • It will be sent more widely for comment once he gets some more opinions/preferences
  • New release process and a release on December 20th?
    • Christian is exploring if and how we should tweak the process to not impact holidays
  • Calendars you can subscribe to with all important release and migration dates are due Real Soon Now™
  • Who wants to participate in a discussion about how to make a call on localizations falling behind? (Axel)
    • Christian does!

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