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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2012-03-14

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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Finch Conference Room
  • #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.


Actions from Last Week

  • Jorge to follow-up with Ant Downloader devs/plan of action (from desktop Feedback) and ensure beta and follow-on releases address identified issue(s)
    • The issue has been resolved with the latest Ant update.

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 11, 10esr)

  • FF11.0, FF10.0.3esr, and FF3.6.28 all went out yesterday
    • FF3.6.28 is our last planned 3.6 update
  • We’re watching for 11 feedback as well as fallout from Patch Tuesday (even unrelated to Firefox)

Beta (12)

  • FF12beta1 is with RelEng, expected to go out the door Thursday afternoon at the earliest

Aurora (13)

  • bug 734946 Disable incremental GC for Firefox 13
  • bug 735713 Version upgrades are broken
    • blocker for re-enabling Aurora updates

Nightly (14)

  • bug 206438 Smooth scrolling should use the ‘smoothwheel’ algorithm
  • bug 591884 Migration wizard does not import favorites toolbar from IE7, IE8, and IE9
  • bug 712109 Implement non-fatal chromehang by turning on frame-pointers on a branch
  • bug 729878 [New Tab Page] Implement new layout
  • bug 718088 offer to re-set keyword.URL if it has a non-default value
  • bug 717070 Create button to initiate migration to a clean Firefox profile
  • bug 696301 Allow sites to enable x-domain window.onerror information
  • Updates from 13.0a1 -> 14.0a1 are broken for windows users. bug 735713 Updates are currently disabled until a fix can be landed.

Firefox Mobile

  • FF10.0.3 (XUL mobile) was pushed to the Android Market yesterday
  • GL-layers code landed on m-c
    • Ongoing work will continue on m-c. The maple branch has been released.
  • Schedule for first native release
    • we plan to ship mobile off of FF13, this will involve significant uplift to aurora over the next few weeks
    • We will probably ship 13 to our beta audience before desktop does
    • We may exit our beta cycle after desktop does
  • New stuff in Nightly:
    • Tab Sync
    • Various startup speed improvements
    • Add search engine from text inputs
    • HTML5 form validation and <datalist> support
    • Add-on preferences
    • Editing bookmarks

Firefox Sync

  • In Progress:
  • App Sync for App store (‘aitc’, Apps In The Cloud)
    • for Marketplace, durable storage for app receipts
    • sync is not building the client portion, but the server
    • Android Sync
    • Sync 2.0 protocol/Persona(BrowserID) auth integration

Add-on Builder

  • Finish up remaining feature/dev work over the next month
  • Generate a plan that details the long-terms support needs of the Add-on Builder site
  • Begin spec’ing the ecosystem dashboard app

Add-on SDK

Release (1.5 -> Firefox 10, 11)

Stabilization (1.6 -> Firefox 11, 12)

  • Released 1.6b2 yesterday!
  • Still on track to release 3 April, 2012

Development (1.7 -> Firefox 12, 13)

  • We are testing to make sure we will support globals per compartment when it ships
  • Still on track to merge 3 April, 2012



  • Apps missed the aggressive 13 branch cut-off date, but charging ahead to get patches queued up for review in the coming week or two.
  • Marketplace Beta scheduled for April 26.
  • GA at end of Q2.
  • QA is helping test apps compatibility on gecko and filing bugs. Talk to Jason Smith or Lawrence Mandel for more details.
    • Working on a number of issues including incorrect UA sniffing, CSS transform performance, -webkit compat, and broken functionality
  • If you are a developer, have you built an app for the Mozilla Marketplace yet?

Feedback Summary


Copying from report to release-drivers:

Since we released late, a lot of this feedback is possibly from beta 8 or people who downloaded from alternate sources. In no particular order…

1) A few complaints about images set on a grey background (and a few people confused by that behavior). Suggesting an addon

2) Firefox takes forever to load pages after update. This happened in the past when a firewall (zonealarm) throttled the new version of the software (it eventually resolves itself IIRC). But this one includes some non-windows complaints.

3) Hangs with downloads (looks to be caused by scanning with Microsoft Security essentials):

4) Norton, AVG compatibility (there may have been one or two others, but Norton and AVG were the top ones)

5) Pages pushed to the left edge (lots of Facebook but that could be a side effect). Could simply be a lack of CSS or partial CSS loading.

(possibly related: something up with google image search?)

6) Top site complained about: Facebook (a lot of can’t log in or X page/game won’t work). That’s probably par for the course, so I’m hesitant to say this is unusual, I’ll do a proper comparison to 9 and 10 releases to see if it’s worse than usual.

New) Hangs/lags with scrolling:

Please don’t yell at me about formatting… I’m sleepy.


UX & User Research

Market Insights

Desktop / Platform





  • Windows Division President Steven Sinofsky posted a lengthy description of all the user interface design features of MSIE10.



Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • Chrome for Android updates include support for Android Beam and availability in more countries
  • The Android Market was renamed to Google Play; now restricts use of 3rd-party in-app payment processors
  • Ice Cream Sandwich updates rolling out to flagship Samsung and HTC devices
  • The Google-Oracle trial concerning Java use in Android to start in April
  • Opera adds Opera Mini Next as version for early-adopter feature preview
  • Opera Mobile 12 adds WebGL and Camera API support
  • Opera shows MIPS- and Intel-based versions of its mobile browser
  • Android tablet sales will take over iOS by 2016, according to data released by IDC
  • Latest iPad features a new display and a better camera; Samsung exec said to have confirmed an upcoming iPad Mini
  • The Internet of Things arriving with new ARM processor designed for appliances
  • The EC is questioning 5 telecom operators on standardization

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction


  • Starting work on next release.
  • Continuing to work on upgrading 3.6.X users
  • Finalizing Product Narrative for 2012


  • Finalizing product narrative for 2012
  • Brainstorming launch campaigns
  • Preparing Beta release activities


Questions, Comments, FYI

  • Happy π Day
  • Does anyone know an iOS developer community member? send them to :ally
  • On the subject of the last 3.6, when do people think we should turn off server support for 3.6 sync?
  • Firefox clinic NEXT Saturday in SF. Come! Email if you want to help.

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