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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2012-05-30

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm


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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Finch Conference Room
  • #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.


Actions from Last Week

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases


Firefox Desktop

Release (12, 10esr, 3.6)

  • The final round of billboard updates for 3.6->12 went out Monday
  • Automatic updates with the add-on compatibility check disabled from 3.6->12 will occur in the next 2 weeks
  • FF4-9 will be auto updated to FF12 indefinitely to vend desupport add-on hotfix (bug 759767)
  • The next ESR update, 10.0.5, will be released on 6/5

Beta (13)

  • Our final beta of FF13 went out yesterday
    • First beta with Mountain Lion support
  • bug 757262 – Youtube keeps playing audio after closing & bug 756250 – Netflix keeps playing after closing remain our top issues
    • Please let us know if you’re running into this in the bug
  • Sign-offs will occur this afternoon at 1PM PT in Warp Core
  • The final build of FF13 will occur Thursday or Friday depending on the state of investigations
  • Our first FF14 desktop beta will be FF14 beta 5 to line up with Fennec Native versioning see “back on the trains” diagram (note 6/15 is a moving target)

Aurora (14)

Nightly (15)

  • We’re expecting PDF.js (landed in FF15) to ride the train to Aurora at the upcoming merge date
  • Monday 6/4 is the last day to land FF15 changes
  • Bug 307181 – (bgupdates) Eliminate wait while restarting Firefox after update (apply update in background)
  • Bug 727864 – Enable DLL preloading when MozillaMaintenance service disabled prefetch

Firefox Mobile

  • Fennec Native 14 beta 4 will be released before the end of the week
  • XUL Fennec 10.0.5 will be released on 6/5
  • XUL Fennec 14 beta 5 will be released as a security update for beta tablet users on 6/7

Nightly (15)

  • Features work
    • Search suggestion
    • New tablet UI for native
    • Reading mode
    • Find in Page
    • Text selection in web content
    • Chromeless webapp support


Firefox Sync

Apps In the Cloud Server

Add-on SDK

Release (1.7 -> Firefox 12, 13)

  • Everything is looking good

Stabilization (1.8 -> Firefox 13, 14)

Development (1.9 -> Firefox 14, 15)

  • We have three new proposals available for review and comment
    • Content Scripts: ability to share content script instances in different APIs contexts.
    • Disposables: a ‘dispose’ method for resource management
    • Collections: a common API for all collections to make code more maintainable and easy to grok.



  • Firefox Desktop 14 (Aurora) – landed
    • Trying to back out this functionality – bug 750936
    • Native Install
    • Chromeless launch of apps
  • Mozillian Marketplace Release is out! Thanks for the feedback so far!
    • Please be mindful that this is an internal release and of alpha quality. Early access is limited to Mozillians and partners for testing, so please do not tweet, communicate or share screenshots, features or details about the Marketplace for now.
    • Download Firefox Desktop Nightly (Fx15)
    • Have a look at the wiki to learn more about the testing procedure.
    • If you run into any hiccups, you can report them to
    • Once you’re done, there’s also an online survey for you to fill out.
  • Firefox Desktop 15 (Nightly)
    • Working on fixing bugs – mostly fit and polish to fit Kilimanjaro requirements
    • Features: Support of native installation and and chromeless launch of apps for Win and Mac OS
  • Firefox Mobile 15 (Nightly) – in progress
    • Features: Native Install and chromeless window launch
    • Proposed marketplace bundling with Fennec is an open issue. See bug 738545
  • Apps in the Cloud
    • AITC client continues – desktop client at risk for FF15
    • AITC Server – Completed

Feedback Summary


Firefox 12 issues summary:

Firefox 12 is slow – Many issues combined into one thread topic [1]

Firefox 12 consumes too much memory – Many possible issues in one thread. [4]

Yahoo issues – A slight spike in the last few weeks. Seems to be related to updates to the toolbar/home page. Will monitor.

Facebook games won’t load – Issue has stabilized.

Foxit Reader causing Hotmail issues: We’ve updated all the threads and are seeing a decrease in the reports.

PDF Issues on Mac – After blocklist we are seeing a dramatic decrease in reports. Verified the blocklist works. We have updated all the threads and created documentation.

Firefox 12 incorrectly caching pages – Fixed in 13.

FF12 praise summary, down 5% from FF11:



Update on the Flash blocklist

  • The most negative feedback we’ve gotten has been from unsupported Mac users who are unable to use Flash at all.


  • Still having problems with youtube/netflix sound not disappearing when the tab is closed.
  • Possibly still having the upload issue (although it could be slow updates on beta.) — Could also affect Facebook now.


Top all-time dissatisfiers (performance and flash) are fixed in Firefox for Android beta. Five-star ratings continue to pour in; themes:

  • Firefox reinvented Wow. I have to say that I’m really impressed with the speed. It is even faster than Opera in most cases. Good job Mozilla, looks like you have nailed it this time.;-)
  • Jawdroppingly Fast Even on my 2 year old phone. I knew you would come through Mozilla.
  • Mozilla got it right Fast, responsive, simple, and looks great.
  • Remarkably stable for beta –FF is really fast and desktops load well. Like it better than built-in browser.

Issue to mitigate: as a prerequisite to pairing a device running FF14 android release, users must uninstall beta and aurora if they were syncing data.

UX & User Research

Market Insights

Desktop / Platform


  • Adobe released an updated version of Adobe Shadow, their mobile/desktop synchronized viewing and editing tool for mobile websites and web apps





  • Rumours are swirling about a possible purchase of Opera Software by Facebook. Besides its desktop, mobile, and embedded browsers, Opera also serves ~30b mobile ads per month via its advertising networks, operates a mobile application store with 30,000 apps.



  • Yahoo! launched Axis, what it describes as a new browser. Provided as a browser plugin for Firefox, Chrome and MSIE on desktops, it is a full wrapper around UIWebView on iOS. Media coverage has on the whole been positive. It offers a tighter integration between search, with thumbnails shown instead of search results.


Summary below and full update here and in your inbox.

  • Google’s acquisition of Motorola Mobility has completed regulatory approvals
  • Rumours on a possible purchase of Opera Software by Facebook have surfaced, together with recurring ones on a possible Facebook phone
  • Google introduced subscriptions for its In-app billing monetization feature
  • The trial between Google and Oracle is ending in favour of Google
  • Mobile payments rising to $171 billion and 212 million users, fueled by SMS and Web-based transactions
  • 20% of Web traffic in the US and Canada to come from smartphones and tablets, according to online advertising network
  • 40% of Chinese Web surfers to be doing so mobile-only

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction


  • Preparing final collateral for next week’s releases.


Questions, Comments, FYI

  • Michael Verdi – Who can I talk to about the new identity block? I need information about this for support documentation.

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