17-December-2008

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2008-12-16

Filed under: Posts — Tags: thunderbird — Benjamin Smedberg @ 12:00 am

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

Tuesday, Dec 16, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
How to dial-in

Agenda

Who’s taking minutes? –> ~~asuth~~ nth10sd (Gary!)
Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

Action Items

New

dmose – Strong mandates of shipping one month after Firefox.
dmose – Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.

Open

Closed

dmose: Add simon and gozer to drivers list

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

Drivers meeting last Thursday.
Probably not much would be done in the next week or two — Christmas / New Year.
Dates below may get pushed back.
dmose notes about Gecko’s code freeze dates in Jan.
- Standard8: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

clarkbw is release driver
gozer is build engineer
(Slushy?) Proposed String freeze from: Monday 26th January 23:59 PST
(Slushy?) Proposed Code freeze from: Thursday 29th January 23:59 PST

We need to make decisions as we triage blocking bugs below – will they eventually make it into TB3?
i.e. get them assigned or push them off..
- Those that get pushed out beyond TB3 should have a flag to track them – dmose to suggest this to drivers.

Sidenote – SeaMonkey probably will release an Alpha in line with TB3b1, a Beta in line with TB3rc, and a final a couple of weeks after TB3.

Blockers/Wanted
- TB 3.0b2 – blocking: 75 (2 down from last week)
- TB 3.0b2 – wanted: 27
Proposed Blocking
- Proposed Blockers (b2): Query TBD
- Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 10
Fixed:
- TB 3.0b2 – blocking: 11
- TB 3.0b2 – wanted: 8

Thunderbird 3

Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap

QA Updates

Past bugdays
- Since bugdays started, we have commented in or closed ALL Thunderbird UNCO bugs (excl. enhancements) that haven’t had a comment since TB 2.0 release! (2007-04-07 to be exact)
- So far bugday has touched over 4,700 bugs, of which over 1,600 resolutions changed, accounting for one third of all (non-FIXED) resolution changes since bugday started (4,800)
Next bugdays
- Will be whacking at the corresponding NEW bugs (excl. enhancements). Queries are at the bugday wiki pages.
- One last bugday this year — Christmas and New Year both happen to fall on a Thursday, so no bugday after 12/18 until 1/8/2009.
Crashes
- TB2 topcrashes (besides ntdll.dll) – all related to large messages or messages with attachments / interrupting message display?
  - bug 373895 Crash when moving from partly displayed large IMAP message to another IMAP folder [@ nsImapProtocol::SetupWithUrl] (doesn’t exist on trunk afaict)
  - bug 403272 crash typically retrieving attachments/images [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenInputStream]
  - bug 364007 Crash when navigating through new mail with key ‘N’ [@ nsSocketTransport::OpenOutputStream]
- TB3 topcrash
  - bug 422907 crashes at exit nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder(nsIMsgFolder**)

Roundtable

Standard8 would like to propose we add an “Account Manager” component under the “MailNews Core” product – the code is shared, and I don’t see it needing to be split. Would probably make bug management easier.

Status Updates

davida

dmose

this past week
- partial week due to vacation/sick day
- met with Ubuntu folks re Thunderbird collaboration
- SF office-space related prep work
- various code, strategy & architectural discussions
upcoming week
- on vacation Monday 12/22 through Friday 12/26
- goals (by friday, 12/19)
  - land JS-in-mailnews patches
  - make significant gloda review progress
  - catch up on momo board meeting stuff
  - progress on review backlog

nth10sd

Getting back up to speed with bugmail and such.
One last 2008 bugday hurrah this Thursday.
Jumping into the TB mozmill wagon.
Mozmill patch in bug 459719.
JS fun from the past weeks:
- Patch for bug 452329
- Discovered bug 466585, bug 467495, bug 469254, bug 469405, bug 469625

jcranmer

Standard8

Two week goals (End of week 2):

Move to toolkit password manager (in progress)
- Made the decision to not migrate the password manager list to reflect up to date passwords – too many issues, not good enough solutions at the moment. Probably revisit post TB 3. This makes the task easier.
- Submitted patch and tests for SMTP protocol handlers bug 469807
  - Required so that toolkit password manager can use IOService.newURI.
- LDAP already submitted bug 419595
- Now looking at POP/IMAP/News handlers.
Move Leak and Bloat tests to be controlled by MozMill
- Made some good progress, now have a basic script and a good idea of how to refine it for the mozmill in leak & bloat.
- tracked down a number of mozmill/jsbridge/mozrunner integration issues.
- Currently blocked by the mentioned mozmill issues – mainly that when using mozrunner/jsbridge the APIs are limited such that we can’t actually choose to run Thunderbird.
  - MozMill team is working on improving APIs, hoping to get an updated version this week.
Write down extended roadmap overview for the address book (based on discussion during MoMo work week).
- Started this, need to arrange meeting to discuss.

Other work:

Reviews
Unit tests
- Added some debugging to try and work out why we get an intermittent failure removing files 462269 bug Bug 462269 (need to follow that up).
Build Config
- bug 469392 Let MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH define work in c++ code.
- bug 469396 Don’t re-read version.txt when we don’t need to in our own tree.
- bug 469655 Drop intermediate makefiles in mail/themes
- bug 469835 Wrote patch for having different version numbers on comm-central + mozilla-central builds (versus comm-central + mozilla-1.9.1 builds)
Misc
- bug 469090 Edit vcard in Account Manager broken.
- bug 469797 Hopefully fix nsUserInfoUnix so that displaying the User’s name in the account wizard will work correctly for non-ascii names.
- Finished bug 462147 – allow TB to migrate SeaMonkey 2.x profiles.

Two week goals (Start of week 1):

Complete Password Manager migration
Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill
Lead Address Book discussions
Investigate fixing LDAP Issues with threads and shutdown.
Look at Performance tests
- Get some rough ideas of what & how.
- See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
  - This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.

asuth

bienvenu

Reviews and driving
Took Friday off
Worked on fixing the open db bloat
Beta 1 Post Mortem scheduled for Thursday, 9:30AM PST

Two week goals (week 2):

Turn autoconfig branch into a reviewable patch for trunk
- Brought auto config repo up to date with trunk changes. Deferring rest of work until I’ve finished the folder archiving work
Finish folder compaction changes and unit tests.
- Code written; need to test
Reduce review queue backlog
- Making progress on review queue

Two week goals (week 1)

Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995

emre

gozer

Build
- Buildbot
  - Great cleaning up starting this week
- Signinig
  - Initial conversation with John
  - Our process will have to be different
- Bouncer
  - We should get our own, keep the existing mirror network
  - How many downloads for Thunderbird 3 Final ?

Web
- SpreadThunderbird moving along
  - Drupal Security patches
- Google Analytics
  - www.mozillamessaging.com Done
  - spreadthunderbird.com Staging
- Cleaned up Webalizer for some Beta 1 Graphs (Blogged)

Infrastructure
- Qualys security audit was a nice surprise
- Working on getting us more hardware
- More/Better monitoring/trending

clarkbw

Driving and Bug Reviews
exptoolbar toolbar changes, not ready for push yet
- Blog about better searching for mail, due out this week

Two Week Goals (end of week 2):
- Push new iteration of Conversation List into exptoolbar
  - Already pushed last week
- Review Conversation Reader and continue to iterate on
  - Latest changes already pushed into reader

wsmwk

Possible suggested new Component for new bugs?

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

My “pretty package name” fixup for directory names inside packages made 1.9.1 now (bug 453840)

rkent

rebron

Press round-up for Thunderbird 3 Beta 1. Press was positive.
Web site is wrapping up design phase for hand-off to silver orange. current files See files dated December 11.
Google Analytics on MozillaMessaging.com will be getting it on SpreadThunderbird.com as well.
Workaround fix for What’s New page.