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12-October-2009

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-12

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WeeklyUpdates/2009-10-12

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Our Canadian friends are out today for the
Canadian Thanksgiving Holiday

Friends of the Tree

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Firefox

( Projects | Status | Goals | People )

Firefox 3.6 (Namoroka)

  • No more front-end beta blockers (bug queries).
  • moving on to remaining 3.6 blockers so that we’re in a good position to ship this quarter

Firefox Future

  • ongoing theme development work for Firefox 3.7 and 4.0, discussions in dev-apps-firefox
  • targeting find-tab-in-awesomebar for Firefox 3.7
  • prioritizing projects for Firefox 3.7 work this week, watch this space for more!

Gecko

  • Last week, on Tuesday, we attempted to freeze for 1.9.2 beta 1. There were several remaining issues at the close of the usual dev meeting, but the consensus seemed to be that we were good to freeze. Still, two bugs (bug 517355 and bug 517909) kept us from freezing and we’re still working on one of them. The last one is a perf regression that is taking the time of Jason Orendorff, Boris, and Andreas. Andreas produced a couple of patches that will hopefully fix the problem, but we need to see numbers today to know for sure.
  • At today’s CrashKill we will go over top crash assignments again. Also, we may be at a point where this meeting isn’t necessary as we’re tracking crashes closely now. We’ll have that discussion then.
  • Blockers:
    • P1: 3
    • P2: 90
    • P3: 0
    • Other: 0
  • Team blocker numbers:
    • Layout: 17
    • Content: 13
    • GFX: 9
    • JS: 29

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Firefox 3.5.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x

  • Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4
    • 3.5.4 went to beta early on Friday, hoping to get better coverage
    • 3.0.15 will go to beta this week, likely Wednesday
    • Still on track for release on October 21

Thunderbird 3

  • Thunderbird 3 string frozen
  • Schedule:
    • comm-central branches: 2009-10-22
    • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST
    • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
    • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please help us make the release happen with

SeaMonkey

Mobile

IT

This Week

  • bugzilla.mozilla.org Upgrade
    • Pushing off update till next week to give more testing time.
    • Up in stage @ https://bugzilla-stage-tip.mozilla.org
    • Please play with it and report problems *before* it goes to production. 🙂
  • Socorro Storage
    • Moved Socorro storage to new 20 TB storage platform last night.
      • All the pending (active) submitted reports were processed before the cut over.
      • Deferred crashes for the last 10 days are no longer automatically available.
      • Crash processing should work normally for any crashes submitted since 11:00 PM last night (both active and deferred crashes).

Please find us on #breakpad or log a bug if you want us to find and process a specific deferred crash (from the last 10 days).

Release Engineering

  • Mobile changeover from TP3 -> TP4.
  • Releases:
    • Fennec 1.0beta4, FF3.5.4 beta last week
    • FF3.0.15, refreshed MU, FF3.6beta1 this week.

QA

Test Execution

  • Tested and shipped Fx3.5.4 to beta. 153 verified1.9.1 bugs verified to date.
  • Expecting Fx3.6b1 builds this week to QA. 23 verified1.9.2 bugs last week.
  • Mozmill automation update: 92% smoketests, 32% BFTs completed. Full details here

Web Dev Testing

  • Tested the Jetpack Gallery website. Filed 30 bugs. The need for testing Jetpack was a surprise. Please, please, please, let us know if you are working on new web sites or need testing help early on in the project.
  • See Test Coverage spreadsheet to see the manual and automated test cases we are creating
  • Tested Plugin Update site on PPC and Intel Based Mas for Falsh Compatibility
  • MDC: Wrote and sent around a test plan. Sheppy approved.

Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Community

Test Development

  • Have verified the agent/server approach by running mochitest and xpcshell on WinMo, and mochitest on WinCE
  • We have XBL2 tests ready for people to contribute – look for an upcoming post on planet this week
  • Prototyped running all tests under valgrind
  • Our sprint roadmap for Q4 is completed. If there is anything you’d like to volunteer to help with, let us know!
  • And more details are here.

Security

  • No updates this week.

Marketing/PR

PR

JRSL press Coverage

Mozilla Service Week

  • Please share your “Stories” for our round up next week. Post on Mozillaservice.org or email mary @ mozilla dot com.
  • Total pledge hours: Over 13,000
  • Reported hours to-date: 8,610
    • Please submit your hours and get your certificate!

Events

  • Jornadas Regionales de Software Libre en Chile and MozCamp Chlie October 5 – 9, 2009, Santiago, Chile – Seth, Chofmann, Juan, Dan Mills, PascalC, Jorge and I all spent last week in Chile. Please check out the wiki as we are adding all of the presentations from the last week. We havd a very successful week, determining goals for the Mozilla Hispano Community during MozCamp. Jornadas had over 1,096 attendees and we got over 200 people interested in contributing to the Mozilla Project which the community will be following up with. I will be positing a blog soon with my thoughts on the trip this week and please look for a brown bag invitation soon where we will talk about our expereinces.
  • Add-on-Con December 2009, Mountain View, CA.  We are sponsoring this event and starting to build sessions aroudn the event theme.

Community

  • Notes from last community marketing call here.
  • Community marketing call this Wednesday, Oct. 20th at 10 a.m. PDT/17:00 UTC
    • Dial-in Info: +1.650.903.0800, followed by 92# and then 7391#
    • Or you can use our toll-free number: +1.800.707.2533, followed by 369# and then 7391#. If you’re outside the US, use Skype to call in with our toll-free number.
    • You can also watch the meeting live in Open Video at air mozilla
    • For those that can’t make the call or want to participate online, join us in #marketing on IRC (irc.mozilla.org).

Support

  • Planning for the upcoming EU Browser Ballot
    • Knowledge Base audit of articles relevant for new Windows users
    • SUMO start page customized for new users running Windows 7
    • For details, see the SUMO planning page

Metrics

  • User Outreach – we implemented feedback buttons/forms on three of our most critical user touch points at mozilla.com.
    • We’re hoping to better understand user experiences and pain points on the minds of users (and ultimately, make changes and improvements)
    • We should have some results in a couple weeks

Evangelism

  • New demos coming for mobile and for desktop machines from Paul Rouget and corresponding demos on hacks – watch those two blogs for updates.
  • developer.mozilla.org – getting it on the production train with webdev

Labs

  • Personas developer release 1.4 this week, to add undo feature and change look-and-feel.
  • Labs talks in Spanish – presented at MozCamp Chile ’09

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

  • Plugin Check goes live tommorrow. Our previous blog post generated a lot of useful feedback — thank you! Please take a look at our test server and see if you still have any thoughts on how to improve it. Read more about the web ui or the web service.
  • Jetpack gallery is nearing its beta launch. Check it out and if you have feedback let us know.
  • IT and Webdev will have on-site training tomorrow for optimizing and maintaining Sphinx, which powers custom search for AMO and SUMO. Will write a blog post summarizing what we learn.
  • Les Orchard is in town

L10n

  • L10n presentation summaries from Prague
  • L10n presentation summaries from Chile
  • Ongoing work with l10n for both web and product for FF 3.6 and Fennec
  • L10n localizer reports coming soon
  • Feedback from Prague is that Localizers are feeling much better about the patches going in to 3.6, compared to 3.5. In particular not as much back and forth. Partly this would be due to 3.7 not being too far out and thus “no” is a better answer.

Foundation Updates

  • Get involved with the new Get Involved page by adding contribution opportunities to the staging wiki page and by using buttons to promote the page. Contact david at mozillafoundation dot org if you’d like to talk more about this.

Roundtable

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates/2009-10-12“

6-October-2009

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-06

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 11:00 pm

SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2009-10-06

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Kairo to contact MoFo on doing a SeaMonkey 2.0 press release. Current Status: talked with MoCo presscontact, said they can’t do anything that costs money, but fell good about forwarding a roughly two-paragraph note to their contacts.

OPEN

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. Contact at Google says: “We don’t have a good estimate for when GLS will be opening up more broadly, but I will be sure to let you know when we take that step. Sorry that I can not be more specific at this time.” – We can only wait right now.
    • KaiRo emailed Google again more than 2 weeks ago, no reply yet.

CLOSED

SeaMonkey 2.0 Final

open blockers (7)
blocker requests (0)
open wanted (28)
wanted requests (6)

  • We need to get blockers fixed, some are unowned as of now and need to either get assigned and fixed fast, or to consider to drop or push back release.
    • Besides bug 382870, we have three other unassigned blockers: bug 518203, bug 520006, bug 520480.
    • The first one is quite an issue for Mac users according to stefanh. We need to check with stefanh on options for working round this bug.
    • Mnyromyr will look into the Mac-sidebar-blocker tonight.
    • [KaiRo] I feel safe on generating RC1 without 483282 (venkman perf hit) fixed, btw – I’d like to get it fixed for final, but with Mnyromyr backing out the core patch for it from trunk, I doubt we can do much by 1.9.1.4 and SM2.0 final.
    • [mcsmurf] bug 452465 will be checked in today bug 471346 won’t make 2.0, I’m quite sure of that 2.0.x maybe then.
    • [InvisibleSmiley] I think it would be nice to have some user feedback on the Master Password workaround so if it can be done I’d like to have it for RC1 (only depends on reviews).
    • After code freeze, KaiRo will probably go through the wanted+ bugs and cancel or minus things that look too risky to take after code freeze.
    • [KaiRo] Right now, my main concern is if/how we can ship RC1 and then RC2/final after that. The only thing blocking RC1 right now is bug 452465 (directory-rel).
    • We don’t do release notes for RCs as due to their version settings, they point to the final relnotes. But we need to relnote any known crashes / performance issues. We can possibly “misuse” the final relnote doc for noting issues in RC1.
  • Schedule:
    • String freeze passed on Oct 1, locales starting to opt in.
    • Code freeze TODAY midnight PDT!
    • Spin first RC tomorrow if possible, with locales that are ready.
    • Let locales continue to opt in, RC2 should be final if in any way possible though.
      • Help can have exceptions to the string freeze – we always have handled it that way. And nothing breaks if localizers are not 100% in sync with help docs.
  • Branch planning is totally up in the air. Thunderbird drivers seem to think branching very closely to releasing their final is good. KaiRo thinks branching should happen before spinning our first RC. No compromise reached as of now.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 52 new, 39 fixed, 30 triaged.

  • The rate of fixed bugs still continues to be high in the run up to 2.0.

Major wanted/needed features:

2.0

  • Toolbar customization aftermath [Ratty]
    • Good to go for 2.0. What remains has to be pushed back to 2.1 (bug 481862, Addressbook and HTML Composer toolbars).
  • bug 456757 Modern theme update [Ratty]
    • Good for 2.0 as is. The remaining polish bugs won’t block 2.0.
  • bug 348720 New icon set for “SeaMonkey Default Theme”
    • status/progress? Good for 2.0 as is?
    • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug
    • KaiRo landed task icons
  • bug 508039 “Know Your Rights” [mcsmurf]
    • Has r+ conditional on fix a few nits.
  • bug 442167 “New add-on installed” notification. patch landed [sgautherie]
  • bug 506724 bug 397236 bug 472873 Help updates (more in bug 423281)
    • status/progress?

We also should take a careful look at the other items on wanted-seamonkey2.0+

2.1

  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port [sgautherie]
    • Further work postponed to SM 2.1.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 410613 OpenSearch. helpwanted.
    • We need to check if OpenSearch can support all our existing functionality, for example the INTEPRETS section in Sherlock search plugins. Mnyromyr will check on that, and on how extensible the Firefox code is.
  • bug 449728 drag tabs between windows
    • unowned so far.
  • bug 498596 places bookmarks
    • unowned so far.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 1.9.1) Composer
    • discussion needed.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer
    • discussion needed.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

Aqualon

asrail

biesi

Callek

IanN

  • Attended this year’s EU MozCamp in Prague.
  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Bugs fixed:
    • bug 519228 Add help for the anti virus and scam preferences in the MailNews Preferences UI.
    • bug 518509 [SeaMonkey] xpcshell-tests: test_expire.js fails since bug 390158 landing.
    • bug 515227 Help button in Message Filter dialog lacks Help icon.
  • Working on:
    • bug 515228 Help button in Search Addresses dialog lacks Help icon.
    • bug 515966 Message Filter Dialog menulist missing some icons.
    • bug 515967 Add icons to addressbook menulist in Search Addresses.
    • bug 519133 Newsgroup list in Message Filters Dialog has blank entry and extra separator.
  • Testing and reporting issues on lightning integration with SM.
  • Working through approval/wanted requests for SM2.0.

InvisibleSmiley

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 87107“Get all new messages” in news server context menu.
  • bug 432700Update Help for Find in this page.
  • bug 472395replace custom stringTrim() by native .trim() in Venkman.
  • bug 506724outdated UI described in section Website Certified by an Unknown Authority.
  • bug 509404Restore Previous Session missing.
  • bug 513456Double click and Del do not trigger Edit/Delete in Customize Message Views window.
  • bug 518294Remove Roaming Profiles from Help.
  • bug 518580Add shortcut for Find Again (Ctrl+G)[venkman]
  • bug 519131Initialize Add Watch Expression dialog with current source selection.

Working On:

  • bug 381269Multiple simultaneous master password prompts when checking multiple imap accounts on startup.
  • bug 512507Port bug 484329 Upgrading to 3.0 causes “archives” folder disappears.
  • bug 518204Port bug 511780 Archiving does not always place the messages in the correct account’s Archive folder (Archive shouldn’t use X-Account-Key: header, at least when account is not Global Inbox owner).

KaiRo

  • Release driving for 2.0
  • Got in the refreshed task icons for the default theme
  • Worked the backlog of support mails sent to council and himself
  • Tried and filed bugs on ISPDB, the database behind the new mail account “autoconfig” feature being already used in TB3 and planned for future SeaMonkey
  • Retrieved and worked on some SeaMonkey statistics
  • Fixed a typo in en-US news.properties
  • Cared to have tinderbox breakage fixed after a mail server change at Mozilla
  • Attended EU MozCamp 2009 in Prague
  • As always, my blog has more detailed status about my work.

mcsmurf

  • Working on bug 452465 Migration wizard gets confused with non-matching directory-rel and directory prefs for SeaMonkey 2.0.
  • Working on bug 508039 Port |Bug 456439 – add about:rights and a “Know Your Rights” infobar to Firefox| to SeaMonkey for SeaMonkey 2.0.
  • Working on bug 471346 Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service (probably won’t make SeaMonkey 2.0).

Misak

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 516330 Save tabs on quit dialog doesn’t save preferences.

Working On:

  • bug 515006 Port Bug 354894 [Session restore doesn’t work if process hasn’t exited (Downloads window open)] to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 517998 There should be way to tell navigator.js that sessionstore is restoring window to avoid triggering “browser.windows.loadOnNewWindow” or “browser.startup.page”.

Mnyromyr

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 517554 [smtabmail] Messages opened from Non-All view in tab not shown.

Working on:

  • bug 364864 nsICategoryManager::deleteCategoryEntry does not persist outside of component registration. REOPENED
  • bug 483681 Make SetInitAtStartup actually work. [venkman]

MReimer

Neil

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 187741 “Age in days” search should default to “is less than”.
  • bug 431184 Composer badly handles XHTML documents.
  • bug 461117 Implement new keyboard shortcut for Paste as Quotation (Now that CTRL+SHIFT+V is for Paste Without Formatting).
  • bug 465771 Port bug 391728 (disabled plugin placeholder) UI to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 484622 proxy configuration dialog has unreadable text box, vertical size is 0 pixels.
  • bug 490467 Play a sound when Download Completes (again).
  • bug 512173 .message-icon rule in toolkit/themes/winstripe/global/global.css points to non-existent icon.
  • bug 516681 Lightning disables SeaMonkey’s throbber.
  • bug 517100 [SeaMonkey] reftest: 2 input-text-* fail since landing.
  • bug 518060 “Exception / NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE / nsIRDFService.GetResource / bookmarksMenu.js :: anonymous :: line 129”, dropping on ‘(Empty)’.
  • bug 520371 Bug 459457 moved dlgtype=”help” rules in to the wrong stylesheet.

Working on:

  • bug 474626 Optimize sorting on entry updates in new download manager.
  • bug 476422 JavaScript exception when clicking “File” menu of “Write:” window while composing message.
  • bug 499785 SeaMonkey can’t handle spaces in OpenURL, Firefox can.

Ratty

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 463249 Expose anti virus and scam preferences in the MailNews Preferences UI.
  • bug 465924 Modern Update: changes in global/.
  • bug 492263 Change “Restart to apply theme” dialog from OK to Restart Now/Later.
  • bug 517683 Missing css/icons for Tasks and/or Events sidebar in SeaMonkey with Lightning.
  • bug 517864 Reclaim vertical space in the bookmarks toolbar menu (modern).
  • bug 517924 Port bug 223132: need a scrollbar on the envelope panel (view all headers / long address lists).
  • bug 517700 Lightning Categories Pref pane not showing any categories.

Working on:

  • bug 512732 Need a chrome://branding/content/icon48.png since mozapps css refers to this.
  • bug 514383 about:certerror should use Larry now that the PageInfo Security tab is (still waiting for reviews).
  • [lightning] bug 516882 Lightning needs UI/CSS tweaks for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 517469 Port bug 363130: make menuitem icons 16x16px consistently on Windows/Linux (modern).
  • bug 517684 Need modern theme for Lightning.
  • bug 518736 Preferences button in Add-on window error – looking for preferences.xul.

Other.

sgautherie

  • Attended EU MozCamp 2009 in Prague.
  • Fixed SeaMonkey bugs:
    • bug 255503 tabbedbrowser progresslistener list grows forever instead of resizing when removeProgressListener is called
    • bug 442167 [SeaMonkey] XPI install misses “installation complete” dialog after application restart
    • bug 512005 Package GPSDGeolocationProvider.js on comm-central-trunk SeaMonkey
    • bug 519117 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Stop packaging (merged) reporter.jar
    • bug 520447 Saving broken in “Page Info” and “View Source”
  • Fixed (MailNews) Core/… (but SM related) bugs:
    • bug 515855 Gloda depends on chrome://messenger/ string-bundle, breaks in seamonkey
  • And working on other areas… like
    • infrastructure to run tests
    • filing bugs for leaks in (TUnit) tests
    • doing a Windows comm-central-trunk SeaMonkey unit test build, reporting to bug 470184 issue tracking; looking forward to an official build when enough new buildbot slaves can be enabled (bug 464325 follow-ups).

Standard8

stefanh

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 514969 Remove reference to toggle JS on/off in mailNews.
  • bug 516469 Reference to non-existing twisty-clsd.gif and twisty-open.gif in pinstripe’s tree.css (toolkit).
  • bug 517788 [Mac Classic] Download Manager polish.

Working on:

  • bug 462044 Simplify some style rules in themes/*stripe/mozapps/help/help.css.

wladow

Any other business?

  • People need to write some blog posts for the SeaMonkey blog to show off what SM2 features. Mnyromyr needs to write a summary on tabmail anyway, so he can make a blog post from that as well.
  • Interesting talks with multiple people in Prague about future and esp. KompoZer collaboration/integration.
  • KompoZer:
    • [KaiRo] Bascially after SeaMonkey 2.0 and KompoZer 0.8 (both expected this/next month), we should do a clone of comm-central+mozilla-central in a user space on hg.m.o and try to get things running there, then merge back either the repository or the patches.
    • We also should look into getting some build machines to do at least nightly build cycles.
    • Ideally, KaiRo can get machines into the SeaMonkey pool and we might be able to get the builds into the SeaMonkey buildmaster.
    • The main issue there is hardware/VMs, but KaiRo needs to talk to Mozilla IT about that topic in any case.
    • If KompoZer becomes an official Community Project, that might be simpler. Kaze is working on this at the moment.
  • bug 477845 [Build a standalone (Gecko 1.9.1) Composer].
    • We don’t need MOZ_STANDALONE_COMPOSER. If we would, we could do it with app-config.mk. For example --enable-application=editor.
  • The next step is for kaze to get a hg account and doing that comm-central clone to play around with.
  • [sgautherie] New mozilla-central build issues are: Windows needs Windows7 sdk/workaround; Linux leak test crashes.
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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-06

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-06

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build

Closed

  • Thunderbird security review completed last week.

Thunderbird 3

  • Now in String freeze
  • Schedule (proposed, may change):
    • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST
    • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
    • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
  • If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

  • topcrashes
    • needs help – if you crash with b4 take the time to read this, and see if those bugs are involved :
      • bug 513543 Crash [@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]
      • bug 518807 startup crash [@ nsRefPtr<ISearchManager>::StartAssignment()]

Last week :

  • regular bugday not much to say
  • volume of bugmail is getting up – if you want to help with bugs get in touch with ludovic@mozillamessaging.com.

This week :

  • regular bugday event – join you are more then welcome 🙂
  • Initial 2. to 3.0 migration pushed up a week to be able to get more traction.

Marketing Updates

  • Press tour is scheduled for France/Germany and Japan October 23 – 30.
  • Web site l10n hand-off this week.

IT update

  • Windows 7 SDK
  • Mac Minis green in staging

Documentation

(Sorry for the lack of links – MDC is broken at the moment)

TODO:

  • Tutorial updates (new tools on AMO)
  • update MDC with status of Account Wizard

In progress:

  • hooks for message header view (490042) / more msg header stuff (466025, 480623)
  • new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
  • TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
  • Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
  • collapsed threads (496244 454829)
  • activity manager (257942)
  • folders (414038)

On hold (pending future dev):

Done / cleared:

Support

  1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week, more problems reported ths week with sending email
    1. Cannot send email
    2. Cannot receive email
    3. Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it, sometimes have to create new profile and migrate old email into new profile)
    4. Snow Leopard 1 Hendrix and 1 GS report of email opening slowly
    5. Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)
  2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
    1. minor dictionary issues: missing British English Dictionary and Australian Dictionary not working
  3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, depends on bugs to be filled in today
  4. Will engage Campus Reps students in Thunderbird support – call for volunteers email will go out this week
  5. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    1. approximately 15 / day (110/7)
    2. total new topics:110 total replies: 74 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20090929 #new support topics:14 resolved:4
      2. date:20090930 #new support topics:16 resolved:7
      3. date:20091001 #new support topics:21 resolved:7
      4. date:20091002 #new support topics:15 resolved:7
      5. date:20091003 #new support topics:6 resolved:5
      6. date:20091004 #new support topics:4 resolved:0
      7. date:20091005 #new support topics:4 resolved:0
    3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 7 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philipp!) 3 from Thomas (thanks!) 1 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks: 43 from Roland, 13 from Mark Banner (thanks!)
    4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 71 – 43 = 28, will incorporate hendrix for next week

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

Standard8
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Provided input for an attended security review
  • bug 519951 Closing a contentTab leaks an nsBrowserStatusFilter and others.
  • bug 338549 Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.
    • Got POP3 patch almost ready for review.
  • Proposed patch for bug 447927 Additional Email field of address book entries not included in address autocompletion (after updating patches on bug 455714 and then finding I couldn’t actually use them).

asuth
  • Was on vacation.
  • Working on blockers with a focus on gloda correctness.

bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Fix bug 497338, 2.0 folders with unread view show as 0 in view menu
  • Fixed leak of cloned view when toggling between threaded and not, bug 519736
  • Pass along size retrieved when fetching body for offline use, in case size has changed, as it can with Exchange, and truncate offline store when newly downloaded offline msg is too small, bug 518702
  • Fix exception starting up in special folder mode w/ no matching folders, bug 506632

gozer

clarkbw

wsmwk
  • topcrash and crash filing, researching, and tracking. see QA updates
    • gloda inducing crashes appear to be the new wildcard
    • steady landings of crash patches generally speaking, so looking good
  • triage, notably search, Mac sev=crit+major, and blocking-TB3+ QAWANTED
  • now is the time to push any more bug 442222 Thunderbird 3 credits via credits webform

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo
  • SeaMonkey 2.0 driving – looking good for code freeze today midnight PDT and RC1 building tomorrow or the day after
  • Attended MozCamp Prague
  • Plans on getting KompoZer join comm-central are becoming more concrete, target is SeaMonkey 2.1 / Gecko 1.9.3, could influence Thunderbird HTML message compose

rkent

rebron

Tsk

last week :

  • attended the bug day.
  • attended the Prague devday:
    • Gave a talk about Tb3
    • Demoed – New account setup, Search etc ..
      • got very positive feedback pointed people to post it to mdat.
  • attended the Moz Eu camp in prague
    • gave a talk with sipaq
      • Room packed
      • see above
      • Localizer are eagerly waiting for web content

andreasn
  • Last week
    • theme preview images bug bug 509258
    • Autoconfig label appearance
    • Mac header button icons bug 519822
    • TB2 -TB3-b4 migration test
    • Vista address book fix bug 507595

bwinton

Last week:

This week:

  • Continue to help students with ISPDB.
  • More work on bug 518586, bug 515371, and the rest of my blockers.
  • General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.

roland

sgautherie
  • Eventually adding myself:
    • From now on, I’ll report (here) when I fix MailNews Core (or Thunderbird) bugs.
    • In case someone doesn’t know, I’m from the SeaMonkey team.
  • Attended EU MozCamp 2009 in Prague.

nth10sd

Attendees

bwinton,sid0,davida,dmose,standard8,asuth,bienvenu,gozer,clarkbw,
wsmwk,Kairo,rebron,Tsk,andreasn,roland,sgautherie

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-06

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 11:00 pm

Platform/2009-10-06

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4

  • Firefox 3.0.15: builds started
  • Firefox 3.5.4: need one more fix, then we’ll start builds
  • Should reopen branches on Thursday or so for 3.0.16 and 3.5.5

Firefox 3.6b1

  • code freeze was supposed to be last night, now moved to Tuesday Oct 6 at 11:59pm PDT
  • 31 P1 blockers showing as unresolved on 1.9.2
  • all feature landings needed before b1 cutoff are complete:
    • lightweight themes (done)
    • about:support (done)
    • js c types (done)
    • plugin update referrals (done)

Blocker Report

See more Firefox 3.6 related blocker queries, or learn about the new status and blocker flags

Browser / Front End

(Progress reports every weekend on Planet Firefox)

  • Firefox 3.6 b1 blockers:

GFX Update

  • 0 beta blockers; 4 1.9.2 blockers
  • Jeff landed a huge QCMS perf win from Steve Snyder in bug 512865. He’s got a blog post upcoming.
  • John got a big Mac Ts win from deferred font initialization in bug 517045.
  • Bas Schouten is coming on board, and has already got some great work done on OpenGL accelerated full-screen video. bug 510057
  • Lots of great news w.r.t. Windows 7 features – see Platform-specific features section below.

Layout Update

  • Blockers
    • 4 P1 blockers, all fixed on trunk (still analyzing regression from bug 509693, but can demote it to P2)
    • 24 P2 blockers, at least 3 with patches
    • low nomination rate
  • Landed animation of CSS properties with SMIL/SVG Animation (dholbert)
  • Landed doubly-linked frame lists (bzbarsky/mats)
  • WOFF landed for 3.6 (jfkthame/jdaggett)
  • Getting closer with Ogg decoder rewrite (doublec) — seeks, plays chained Oggs
  • Depending on how we perform on N900, may need new video/audio goals (or redeploy cpearce/kinetik)

Content Update

  • 1.9.2 beta1
  • Got the JetPack security changes landed (mrbkap)
  • Working on top-crashers

Platform-specific Support Update

  • Win7 sdk rollout complete. (hat tip bhearsum!)
  • Win7 taskbar preview patches (widget/browser) landed on trunk, 1.9.2 last night.
  • Win7 progress patches (widget/browser) have final reviews, still need to land.
  • Win7 jump list widget patch has final reviews, browser patch needs an sr.

JS

  • recursion landed for simple cases

Strange perf hit on a few mac (perf win on windows/linux) talos tests, investigating.

Startup Performance

Highlights from the weekly update post, and work started this week:

  • John Dagget’s ~20% cold startup improvement and ~4% warm startup improvement on Mac in bug 517045 landed on branch.
  • Taras Glek’s work on combining the different preference files has landed (bug 507288)
  • Alfred Kayser’s patch to increase throughput of JAR file reading has landed (bug 510844).
  • Ryan landed bug 475289 to lazily initialize the engineMetadataService for an expected 20ms win.
  • Ben Hsieh got some stat() removal landed in bug 510991. He’s got even more in bug 511761, just need bsmedberg review.
  • I’m no longer able to reproduce the Windows cold startup regression from 3.5 to 3.6 reported in bug 517741. I turned off SuperFetch, which resulted in more stable numbers, but there was no visible regression, even in builds going back a couple of months. Juan tested on Windows XP and found the same. The current numbers show a 27-30% *improvement* in cold startup time on trunk, and up to 8% on 3.6.

Join us on IRC in #startup.

Security

Nothing to report.

Electrolysis

  • Windowless plugins animating correctly (implement NPN_Invalidate*)
    • karlt beginning to design asynchronous painting
  • Remote canvas.drawWindow in final review. Yay!
    • Now we need to get event handling back up to speed
  • NPRuntime in final review
  • bent working on Windows deadlocks

Tree Management

  • We need a quiet time to land split-mochitests so we can iron out inter-test dependencies. Post-beta?
  • Win7 SDK is deployed!
  • Migrating 8 Tiger Talos machines to run Linux / Vista on Try Talos
  • Turning off idle builds. We currently run a full set of builds and tests if nothing on a branch has changed in several hours. This ties up resources required for other branches.
  • 1,774 landings last month, 37% jump over previous recorded highest
    • year to date range: 1,018 to 1,295
    • details here

Roundtable

Firebug

Four bugs outstanding right now for Firebug.

  • bug 520572 – funky window property js debugger bug
  • bug 500128 – long js files have incorrect line numbers
  • bug 520421 – need regression range
  • bug 515051 – Stream listener registered in a network request channel eats JS error messages
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5-October-2009

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-05

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 11:00 pm

WeeklyUpdates/2009-10-05

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Friends of the Tree

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

  • krupa wrote in “I’d like to nominate the following community members: His awesomeness- Milos Dinic,for all the help he provided on QA’ing AMO 5.1 and for being our ceaseless source of enthusiasm. And Truman Smith for churning out Selenium test cases for SpreadFirefox and helping us build our automated test suite.”
  • Akash wrote, “I wanted to nominate kbrosnan as a friend of the tree for his work on our Fennec 1.0 Beta 4 Testday.He not only filed 5 bugs on the day, but also guided a newcomer on how to file a proper bug report (his first ever) on bugzilla!”
  • Smokey wrote, “I’d like to nominate Reed Loden as a Friend of the Tree for securing the return of the much-linked UA sniffing evangelism site geckoisgecko.org from squatters, and also Christopher Henderson, who has been maintaining the content and running it on geckoisgecko.info in the interim.”

Development Updates

Firefox

( Projects | Status | Goals | People )

Firefox 3.6 (Namoroka)

  • Code freeze targeted for this week (check the Tuesday engineering or Wednesday product meetings for details).
  • Personas support now live in 3.6 nightlies – check it out at www.getpersonas.com

Firefox Future

  • ongoing theme development work for Firefox 3.7 and 4.0, discussions in dev-apps-firefox
  • targetting find-tab-in-awesomebar for Firefox 3.7

Team News

  • Firefox’s team goals for Q4 have been set with a focus on ensuring a stable, high quality Firefox 3.6 product is shipped and looking towards the future with work on Firefox 3.7 and Electrolysis.

Gecko

  • The CrashKill meeting will repeat today at 3pm. Watch dev.planning for the announcement. Last week we covered the top 25 crashes, assigned individual developers when needed, and started directed outreach to binary extension and plug-in vendors who are causing crashes.
  • Blockers:
    • P1: 17
    • P2: 89
    • P3: 0
    • Other: 3
  • Team blocker numbers:
    • Layout: 20
    • Content: 16
    • GFX: 8
    • JS: 36

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Firefox 3.5.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x

  • Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4
    • mostly on track for October 21 releases
    • need to take at least two more fixes before starting builds
    • ETA for “go to build” tomorrow morning, possibly not until Wednesday

Thunderbird

SeaMonkey

  • Strings frozen for 2.0
  • Code freeze tomorrow midnight PDT
  • RC1 after that, RC2 is expected to go final
  • We look to be in good shape for making final around Oct 21

Mobile

IT

This Week

Notable downtime this week

  • Thursday – ChinaCache & AMO cutover bug 512729

Release Engineering

  • win7 SDK deployed (except on 1.9.1)
  • split tests deployed, backed out
  • working on a scheme for rolling out tp4/shutdown tests to the nokias
  • releng blogging blitz end of Oct

QA

Test Execution

  • Tested Personas 1.3 for release last week
  • Gearing up for multiple release work: 3.0.15, 3.5.4, 3.6b1
    • Spent most of the week verifying bugs, and working on testplans and testcases
  • Fennec b4 testing last week. See below for testday results

Web Dev Testing

  • Tested and shipped AMO 5.1
  • Tested and shipped SUMO 1.4.01
  • Tested and shipped Personas student contest, which involved regression-testing the regular site (found a few bugs)

Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Community

  • Community:
  • Metrics – Added “fixes by DevGroup” metrics. These are fully automated versions of metrics from Damon. See sidebar on Murali’s Project Metrics dashboard.
  • Accessibility:
    • Tested Firebug 1.5x0a25 which includes the new Net panel accessibility work done by the Paciello Group. Works quite nicely with NVDA!
    • Tested and provided feedback on a new approach to access accessible Flash and Java content on web pages in NVDA. Blogged about this in English and German.

Test Development

  • Mozmill Talk well attended, good questions over the weekend at MozCamp EU
  • Made quite a bit of progress on a Device specific Test Agent for the new Mobile Testing Framework (thanks a lot to blassey!)
  • Starting on Server side of framework this week
  • Working to try to help reproduce crash kill bugs
  • More notes are always here.

Security

Marketing/PR

PR

Mozilla Service Week

  • Please share your “Stories” for our round up next week. Post on Mozillaservice.org or email mary @ mozilla dot com.
  • Total pledge hours: Over 13,000
  • Reported hours to-date: 8,610
    • Please submit your hours and get your certificate!

Events

  • Jornadas Regionales de Software Libre en ChileOctober 7 – 9, 2009, Santiago, Chile – Sponsoring event and bringing together the Mozilla Hispanic Community. + 2 day MozCamp Prior. It’s underway  We have a schedule for MozCamp Chile and the schedule for JRSL.  At JRSL Seth and Chofmann will both be keynoting in addition to 4 other MoCo talks throughout Wednesday – Friday.  Please check out the wiki to see all of the work that has gone into making these events a reality – https://wiki.mozilla.org/JRSL_Chile
  • Philippine Blog Awards October 9, 2009 in Luzon, Philippines – Sponsoring this even in order to continue to build the Philippiine community and Tagalog locale.
  • Free Software and Open Source Symposium (FSOSS) October 29 – 30, 2009 Toronto, Canada.  We are sponsoring this event.  We currently have representation from both Mozilla Foundation and Corporation speaking.
  • Add-on-Con December 2009, Mountain View, CA.  We are sponsoring this event and starting to build sessions aroudn the event theme.

Community

  • Help the Fennec 1.0 Beta 4 test day last Friday. See results.
  • Community marketing call this Wednesday, Oct. 7th at 10 a.m. PDT/17:00 UTC
    • Dial-in Info: +1.650.903.0800, followed by 92# and then 7391#
    • Or you can use our toll-free number: +1.800.707.2533, followed by 369# and then 7391#. If you’re outside the US, use Skype to call in with our toll-free number.
    • You can also watch the meeting live in Open Video at air mozilla
    • For those that can’t make the call or want to participate online, join us in #marketing on IRC (irc.mozilla.org).

Support

  • No updates this week (traveling back from an amazing #eumozcamp09 weekend!)

Metrics

  • Firefox Market Share Update – September’s numbers look good

Evangelism

  • No Updates

Labs

  • Personas 1.3 released with support for favorites! More info in the blog post.

Developer Tools

Add-ons

  • Jorge in MozCamp Chile for the next two days
  • 51% of add-ons are compatible with Fx 3.6, time to start testing with 3.6, more info coming soon

Webdev

L10n

Foundation Updates

No updates for this week.

Roundtable

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