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7-September-2010

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-07

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Platform/2010-09-07

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.6.9 and 3.5.12

  • Releasing today
  • In 4-7 days plan to refresh the 3.0/3.5 → 3.6.9 update offer

Firefox 3.6.10 and 3.5.13

  • Schedule draft will be sent around today
  • Tentative plan is to release on October 12th
  • Please nominate and work on any blockers! No need to wait until the last minute when FF4 work is even more intense

Firefox 4 Beta

  • beta 5 will likely ship later this afternoon or tomorrow
  • beta 6 code freeze is scheduled for FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10th
    • based on the number of blockers left, this date is at risk
    • would actually estimate code freeze to be a week after the 10th
    • can and should discuss more in roundtable

Blocker Report

Firefox 4 Beta

Firefox 3.6.10

Firefox 3.5.13

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

  • [NEW] Feature complete Firefox 4
    • [DONE] Switch to Tab
    • [ON TRACK] Extension Manager – Bug list is converging, still a lot of work to do.
    • [ON TRACK] Notification UI – Geo and EM notifications done, http auth next.
    • [ON TRACK] New Theme – Windows and Mac good, Linux lagging.
    • [ON TRACK] App Tabs – Scope for 4.0 reduced (non-global), near feature complete.
    • [ON TRACK] TabCandy – Dropped “all windows” work to constrain risk
    • [AT RISK] Silent updates on Windows
    • [AT RISK] Web Console
    • [DROPPED] Inspector
    • [DROPPED] Account Manager – WIP patches posted, but we can’t contain the review load and code risk.
  • [AT RISK] Dirty profile startup within 20% of clean profile startup (modulo extensions, plugins; on windows)
    • Current status: Lots of data has been collected and analyzed, but no solid conclusions have shaken out.
    • Details page
    • Shawn has an updated blog post. Read it for more info.
    • Bugs on file that help:
      • Excessive cookie i/o bug bug 572223 (fixed)
      • Session Restore negatively impacts startup time based on the number of tabs loaded bug 582005
      • Suboptimal SQLite page size bug 416330 (fixed)
      • Provide a global VACUUM component bug 541373

Platform

(there is a team-by-team goals breakdown, as well)

  • [ON TRACK] Javascript performance near or even with Chrome 5 on their benchmarks (within 20% on SS, 30% on V8), with substantial wins on our benchmarks. (Windows, in-browser.)
  • [ON TRACK] Hardware acceleration of video and other HTML and SVG content, as well as user interface, on by default for compatible hardware on all Tier-1 desktop and mobile platforms.
  • [ON TRACK] Fully support the WebGL 1.0 spec, with support turned on by default in a Firefox 4 beta on platforms that support OpenGL or OpenGL ES.
  • [ON TRACK] security: zero reproducible high/crit > 30 days
  • [ON TRACK] Support multi-process Fennec.
  • [ON TRACK] Support Jetpacks running in separate processes and never blocking the Fennec UI.

JS

JM looking good on TM tree, a few blocking things remain: bug 592960, regex problems. Some possible problems related to lack of compartments.

GFX

  • Accelerated compositing using Direct3D 9 (on Windows) has been turned on by default on mozilla-central!
    • If you notice problems with Direct3D 9, please report them in Bugzilla. You will want to accompany your bug report with the Graphics section of about:support, so we can more easily work out what’s wrong.
    • To narrow down whether a problem is caused by Direct3D 9, you can set the about:config pref layers.accelerate-none to true, and restart your browser.

Layout

  • calc() basically done (see dbaron’s blog)
  • Q3 goals done
  • Still targeting feature freeze: SVG images, async plugin painting
  • document presentation swapping on track

Content

  • Virtual properties (bug 499201) support at risk for beta5 🙁

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6-September-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-06

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Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-01

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

  • See timeline
    • Alpha 1 released
    • Beta 1 code freeze: Sept 7
      • ~ 1 week

Major Topics for This Week

Front-end

  • Working on Beta 1 blockers
  • Features (see Planning page)
    • Project to remove tile manager is well underway
    • Working on tweaks to the new Awesomebarscreen search provider layout
    • Looking for feedback on the “two-taps” behavior for virtual keyboards
  • Working with Madhava on UX designs and loose ends

UX design

  • Working with Martell on the Android theme mockups

Maemo

Qt

  • some/more Tests should be running nightly!

Android

  • please provide feedback on Android theme mockups [1]
  • need to solidify our minimum requirements for 2.0
    • screen sizes
    • min CPU
    • how to communicate

Electrolysis

  • jchen is working on cross-platform IME support under PuppetWidget (bug 591047)
    • hopefully this will fix some of the maemo bugs as well
  • MikeK is working on remoting geo providers.
  • Hoping to disable http cache, transport threads in child process. bug 559714

Layers

Some TODOs for b1.

General Platform

Geolocation

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

  • bug 359608 is almost done (suspend animations when in the bfcache). Can we force the browser to put everything in the bfcache (go to about:blank) when idle, to save power?
  • Deprecating IsLowMemory() predicate. Subsystems will still broadcast memory-pressure.

Networking

Core download manager work is done, a couple of bugs still in progress bug 589025, bug 567267, bug 591081

Graphics

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • looking at talos red
  • 2.0a1 install status
  • pageloader oom should land during downtime
  • Android Unit testing
    • working on integrating the tools from QA Automation into the build steps
    • I’ve manually run the scripts to insure that the steps are working on the tegras

QA

Manual

  • New Bugs over the week: filed
  • QA continues to flag blocking-fennec bugs, so please keep on top of triaging! We’ll be having another qa bug triage for next week
  • Results from nightly Smoketest runs. These are ran against Android, GTK, and QT
    • no new blockers found.
  • New 2.0 features testplans popping up (awesomescreen, platform integration, RTL)
  • MobiFx Testday on 9/10
  • Welcome new QA member, Naoki Hirata! (irc: nhirata)

Automation

  • browser-chrome – need some attention, carryover from last week
  • talos
    • tpan/tzoom? we should figure this out this week
  • [mochitest: green]
    • 100% blocked on bug 590121 unless we do browser.tabs.remote=false, traction on this, but still broken
    • bug 590248 and bug 587646 account for 60% of known mochitest failures on n900!, no progress on these two bugs?!

Other

  • build tiers
    • need testing

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-01

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Firefox/Planning/2010-09-01

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

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Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 3.6.9 and Firefox 3.5.12

  • Went to beta last Thursday, currently have ~350k users on 3.6.9
  • Have not found any regressions, but still watching for them
  • Still scheduled to ship on September 7th

Firefox 3.6.10 and Firefox 3.5.13

  • Draft schedule will be sent around this week

Firefox 4 Beta 5

  • Code is frozen
  • Build 1 has been released to the FTP server
  • May possibly be released on September 6

Firefox 4 Beta 6

  • Expected to be the feature freeze
  • bug 533038 will stop unpacking extensions by default. Extensions with binary components or which use ctypes will need to be modified to add <em:unpack>true</em:unpack> in their install.rdf.

Jetpack SDK 0.8

  • freezes Tuesday, September 14, 11:59pm PT (in about two weeks)
  • on tap: Sidebar, Windows, Places, Page Mods APIs; E10S compatibility; module loader security improvement
  • much work on track, a few items at risk
  • might be blessed as first beta-quality release (1.0b1)

Add-on Builder 1.0a5

  • froze on Saturday
  • push to staging delayed a few days, now scheduled for tomorrow, Thursday, September 2
  • push to production sometime next week

Test Pilot studies

  • Completed Studies/Analysis in Progress
    • Search Interface Study submissions coming in
    • Fx4 Beta Interface Study
    • Add-On’s Market Place Survey [Patrick Finch]: 29k+ responses
  • Upcoming Studies
    • About:Firefox (About: Support)
      • Tracking: memory use stats, d2d supprot on/off, plugin versions, and modified preferences (records any preference that has been modified, i.e. has a user set value different from the default, but only for certain preferences defined by a whitelist/blacklist from about:support)
      • can also add detailed extension info (including extension versions), and the compile info from about:buildconfig
    • Graphics Card Configuration
      • Meeting with Daniel Witte today
    • Fx4 Beta Interface Study Round 2
      • Original Fx4 Beta Interface Study updated for additional features (App Tabs, Tab Candy) + complementary survey

Highlights / Notices

Notes or issues that don’t correspond to a particular release you’d like people to know about.

  • Latest beta Feedback
    • Positives:
      • Love the new tab functions–Panorama is hugely popular
      • Facebook issues are much better
      • ove the new UI and minimalistic design
      • Youtube is more usable, Netflix issues seem to be fixed
    • Issues
      • orkut is a big issue; may also hinder beta campaign timing if we decide to launch program in Brazil: bug 585744
      • close/maximize/minimize button issue is still very annoying – bug 574833
      • Hotmail:bug 581502
      • Personas extension manager affecting 3.6.x and Beta bug 590608
      • Amazon ‘Lightning Deals’ are not visible on 4.0b1 bug 579119
      • Groups of Tabs don’t save bug 589665
      • App tabs and Tab Candy bug 578553
    • Others
      • when to expect the new Linux theme?
    • Common Add-On Compatibility Requests
      • Google tool bar
      • Google Gears bug 523924
      • Zynga
      • Roboform

Questions and Concerns

Please add any questions or concerns you would like discussed at today’s meeting.

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