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20-April-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-04-20

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-04-20

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

  • Tracy
    • Working the qawanted list
    • Verifying fixed-1.9.1 bugs

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • Working on some weave-impact bugs for 1.9.1
      • bug 483980 Allow history/bookmark observer components to register with a startup category (trying to help; hard bug)
      • bug 468307 Multiple observer events fire for addition, removal (approach changed; needs work)
  • mak
    • blocker bug 487040 Crash [@ nsNavHistoryResult::OnItemAdded ]. Landed on trunk and branch, re-enabled crashing test on branch and waiting results
    • bug 484019 Fix roots titles with preventive maintenance. First patch ready, need to evaluate how to handle checks on Library left pane folders.
    • bug 487777 History menu is slow and takes ages to open. Fixed on trunk and branch.
    • Fixed some of the places “sort operation required” storage warnings.
    • various reviews and pushes
    • blocker bug 488783 Tags list no longer sorted (alphabetized) in latest Shiretoko nightly. Patch ready, but i noticed some strange behavior while writing a test, investigating them. ETA should be end of today.
    • bug 488966 Add a last_visit_date column with an index to moz_places. Want to investigate if it would be possible fixing this for 3.5, and if really would make history menu lightning fast.
  • adw
    • Clear recent history sprint bug 480169 – landed on trunk and branch
    • Weave bookmarks-restore notifications bug 470314 – landed on trunk and branch
    • Library polish bug 430148 – review requested from mano
    • hasTag bug 399799 – put up an nsIVariant patch for Dietrich’s review; need to investigate alphabetizing array of tags returned per Marco’s comment
    • bookmarks initialization is not fault tolerant bug 478912 – posted a WIP patch that addresses most but not all of the issues linked to in the bug, but the bug is very terse; could use some guidance here, or maybe Marco or Dietrich could use the patch as a starting point since they know what the bug’s about
  • ddahl
    • fixed dependent bug bug 487012 of bug 473337 just the makefile for SeaMonkey builds
    • bug 485442 created xpcshell test and patch approved
    • Working on ORM – have I discovered a JS bug?
    • Looking at google chrome database schema and History/Bookmarks functionality
  • dietrich
    • reviews, etc.

Documentation

  • MDC
    • the migration guide needs history api and dynamic container examples. (dietrich)
    • the design documents linked from MDC need to be written. can probably cull from the old design overview docs.
    • Documentation non-existent:
      • dynamic containers (MaK77)
        • will do as soon as they are working properly

Roundtable

  • bug 445704 needs to be ported to 3.0.10 branch (freeze is April 21st)
  • bug 489173 Issue with size of places.sqlite and Google Toolbar

13-April-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-04-13

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-04-13

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • Working on some weave-impact bugs for 1.9.1
      • bug 487660 Places depends on buggy behavior of SQLite’s SUBSTR (needs branch landing)
      • bug 487511 nsINavHistoryObserver has no “onBeforeDeleteURI” callback (needs review dietrich)
      • bug 468307 Multiple observer events fire for addition, removal (approach changed; needs work)
  • mak
    • New chrome and browser-chrome tests landed for Bookmarks dialogs
    • bug 422163 landed + null-pointers fixes
    • Working on Library regressions from “split history in sidebar” bug 422163
    • bug 484019 Fix roots titles with preventive maintenance
  • adw
    • Clear recent history sprint (bug 480169) review requested
    • polish bug 430148 review requested
    • hasTag bug 399799 After asking for people’s opinions, I’m inclined to leave it as it (wstring array)
    • weave bug 470314 review requested
  • ddahl
    • Patch up for bug 416580 “Disable copying and other commands on “special” Library folders”.
    • still sidelined by bug bug 473337 fixing makefile? for SeaMonkey builds
    • test and patch up for bug 485442, one more test to finish.
    • starting new Places wanted bugs
    • Weekend nerd-out sessions are revealing more nuances of SQLite and Storage:)
  • dietrich
    • reviews, etc.

Documentation

  • MDC
    • the migration guide needs history api and dynamic container examples. (dietrich)
    • the design documents linked from MDC need to be written. can probably cull from the old design overview docs.
    • Documentation non-existent:
      • dynamic containers (MaK77)
        • will do as soon as they are working properly

Roundtable

  • Places team in person meeting during All Hands week: Tracy would like to meet Thursday

23-March-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-03-23

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-03-23

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • Working on some weave-impact bugs for 1.9.1
      • bug 468307 Multiple observer events fire for addition, removal (needs review from dietrich)
      • bug 468305 nsINavBookmarksObserver has no “onBeforeRemove” callback (needs branch landing)
  • mak
    • bug 390614: fully landed on trunk, will bake for at least 24 hours before asking approval, eta is end of the week.
    • bug 484263: Smart bookmarks upgrade policy, need to discuss about what we want to do on smart bookmarks version change.
    • bug 457708: most of apis added back and tested, need to allow nested dynamic containers, eta is end of the week.
  • adw
    • Places stats sprint: got a blog (http://blog.mozilla.org/adw/), will publicize this thing today
    • Clear recent history sprint (bug 480169): strings-only patch finished for string freeze, still helping Johnathan and Alex with this
  • ddahl
    • Will be posting a blog post about places db generator later today. bug 480340
    • Cleaned up patch for 410196 bug 410196 – copy/paste historty to tag container
    • Started FK support for MozStorage js ORM bug 394732
    • Finished bug 431011 – linux key command to open places (finally!) This is checked in and built in Shiretoko.
  • dietrich
    • about:me – didn’t make string freeze, so deprioritizing for now
    • query result chunking

Documentation

  • MDC
    • the migration guide needs history api and dynamic container examples. (dietrich)
    • the design documents linked from MDC need to be written. can probably cull from the old design overview docs.
    • Documentation non-existent:
      • dynamic containers (MaK77)
        • will do as soon as they are working properly

Roundtable

  • Sprint ideas
    • Perf
    • better cut&paste (don’t remove on cut)

16-March-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-03-16

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 11:01 pm

Places/Status Meetings/2009-03-16

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • No update (been working on non-places stuff)
  • mak
    • Done triaging unconfirmed bugs and some reviews
    • bug 483261: small improvement for Linux d&d, good for 3.5. A new issue probably found, investigating on (need to debug some popupmanager code).
    • bug 390614: latest patch up ready for review (high priority per string freeze)
    • bug 480873: a new comment from John, will look into it
    • I’ll be away 19-22
  • adw
    • https://places-stats.mozilla.com
      • Exchanged emails with John at Mozilla and Steven at silverorange re: branding for site. Waiting to hear back from Steven since Wednesday — got reply just this morning (8:15 am) with branding attached. Will examine when I get in to office.
      • Enabled JSON output on GET so ddahl can hookup his generator to the data
    • bug 469436 – Final patch up, need Axel’s approval for some accesskey changes
    • bug 480169 – Helping Johnathan and Alex with their clear recent history sprint
    • bug 430148 – Patch for Library polish bug, waiting on mano’s review
  • ddahl
    • Place stats generator is now collecting it’s data from places-stats.mozilla.comv bug 480340
      • also added moz_keywords and moz_inputhistory
      • I can set all of this up on my macmini w/ cron to create a new file daily if need be
    • Put up a WIP demo for MozStorage js ORM bug 394732
    • Need to get back on my testing bugs in conjunction with Tracy bug 475977
    • Going to ask for approval for bug 431011 patch – linux key command to open places (finally!)
  • dietrich
    • about:me
    • query result chunking

Documentation

  • MDC
    • the migration guide needs history api and dynamic container examples. (dietrich)
    • the design documents linked from MDC need to be written. can probably cull from the old design overview docs.
    • Documentation non-existent:
      • dynamic containers (MaK77)
        • will do as soon as they are working properly

Roundtable

9-March-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-03-09

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 11:00 pm

Places/Status Meetings/2009-03-09

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • New sprint that is currently going through test hell.
      • will work with a content person today on this
  • mak
    • bug 480873: still one issue to go, need a forceReloadIcon cache, so on next reload we will ignore failedFaviconCache.
    • bug 457708: no updates from last week, still need tests for remaining APIs
      • needed for async location bar work by sdwilsh
    • bug 390614: still waiting on UX Team, hope to get that in 3.5
  • ddahl
    • Sprint update: going to publish ubiquity command for places-stats later today. Ubiquity-using power users will have quality places stats. (I assume)
    • Waiting on bigger dataset in order to formulate “ideal” inputs to places data generator.
    • reworking bug 410196 after Mak’s comments
    • Just starting test creation for Places controller code coverage
    • Attempted to help with bug 481257🙂
    • Starting bug 481443 – support bug for Mak’s bug 481406
  • dietrich
    • about:me sprint ongoing
    • blockers done (mostly), so focusing on reviews and bug scrubbing this week

Documentation

  • MDC
    • the migration guide needs history api and dynamic container examples. (dietrich)
    • the design documents linked from MDC need to be written. can probably cull from the old design overview docs.
    • Documentation non-existent:
      • dynamic containers (MaK77)
        • will do as soon as they are working properly

Roundtable

3-March-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-03-02

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 12:01 am

Places/Status Meetings/2009-03-02

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

  • Blockers (1, http://tinyurl.com/5zpgx7)
    • One blocker owned by dietrich should be closed out this week.
  • Wanted 29, http://is.gd/iW01)
    • Will re-triage these once we have a better plan for what is going to happen with 3.1
  • Bugs targeting 3.1 (19 from 26, http://tinyurl.com/7cvrs7)
    • Will re-triage these once we have a better plan for what is going to happen with 3.1
  • Possible Wontfix (3 from 2, http://tinyurl.com/ajqgm7)
  • Places bugs on m-c but not yet on 1.9.1 (45 from 33, http://tinyurl.com/686pp9)
    • This is big. We need to make sure we have things requesting approval that are safe to land on branch.
    • Bug owners should ask for approval and dietrich will triage later today.

QA Issues

From last meeting, the following things had open action items:

  • Everything is A-OK

Status updates

  • sdwilsh
    • need to finish up work on bug 480211, then it is back to async location bar searches.
  • mak
  • adw
    • Re: sprint bug 480340:
      • Setup MySQL DB to collect places stats (thanks sdwilsh) which you can POST to at http://adw.forerunnerdesigns.com/places/ (and also GET for a table of people who have POSTed)
      • Updated JS script that compiles places stats:
        • Computes number of livemark containers
        • Computes number of livemark children
        • Computes a places DB “ID” to associate with stats
        • POSTs to aforementioned web site
      • So now we only need to get people to copy and paste the JS into their JS consoles, and the rest is taken care of. But, is there an easier way than using the JS console?
    • bug 451151 finished, checked in
  • ddahl
    • sprint patch is up bug 479089 – Dietrich would like more configuration options. Looking at that today. Would love more feedback. Tests by ddahl and adw.
    • working on bug 410196 just need a more “permanent fix”, current patch is not comprehensive.
    • Patch up for an autocomplete test bug 479089 (needs review)
    • In contact with Tracy about the test suite for the PlacesController, etc. Added Tracy’s spreadsheet bug 475977 will start on those this week.
    • Finished off some non-places work last week related to the updater.

Other:

  • Bugs with dev-doc-needed (http://is.gd/iVWS)
    • mak77 will go through his bugs and fix missing docs

From last meeting, the following things had open action items:

  • need documentation on how to write SQL queries against the places back-end, for core developers.
    • Invariants and triggers (sdwilsh)
    • Check over existing documentation for outdated information (sdwilsh)

Roundtable

  • B4 targets, create a list of bugs/features we could work on for B4, and evaluate current approval queue.
    • will use wanted flag.
    • dietrich will re-triage wanted so we can safely use this.
  • Favicons expiration
    • bug 460300 and followup bug 476636: users don’t expect them expiring with cache (bug 480873)
    • Need to establish when exactly the cache is cleared, and then evaluate our options

17-February-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-16

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 12:00 am

Places/Status Meetings/2009-02-16

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

Image:Places-Triage-Chart-Feb-16-2009.png

QA Issues

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • tracy has sent out an e-mail today to highlight what needs to be tested to have full coverage for Library moving. ddhal is going to work on those tests.
  • Some user is reporting issues with AVG Safe Search and the awesomebar, we should verify if the issue effectively exists and if AVG should be contacted. See bug 475653 and bug 376084. tracy will investigate and report back.

Status updates

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • Bugs with dev-doc-needed
    • mak77 will go through his bugs and fix missing docs (complete)
  • need documentation on how to write SQL queries against the places back-end, for core developers.
    • Invariants and triggers (sdwilsh)
    • Check over existing documentation for outdated information (sdwilsh)

Roundtable

  • Out of date docs on MDC:

10-February-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-09

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-02-09

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • tracy will send out an e-mail today to highlight what needs to be tested to have full coverage for Library moving. ddhal is going to work on those tests.
  • Some user is reporting issues with AVG Safe Search and the awesomebar, we should verify if the issue effectively exists and if AVG should be contacted. See bug 475653 and bug 376084. tracy will investigate and report back.

Status updates

  • Bugs with dev-doc-needed (http://is.gd/iVWS)
    • mak77 will go through his bugs and fix missing docs

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • need documentation on how to write SQL queries against the places back-end, for core developers.
    • Invariants and triggers (sdwilsh)
    • Check over existing documentation for outdated information (sdwilsh)

Roundtable

3-February-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-02

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Benjamin Smedberg @ 12:00 am

Places/Status Meetings/2009-02-02

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

  • tracy will send out an e-mail today to highlight what needs to be tested to have full coverage for Library moving. ddhal is going to work on those tests.
  • Some user is reporting issues with AVG Safe Search and the awesomebar, we should verify if the issue effectively exists and if AVG should be contacted. See bug 475653 and bug 376084. tracy will investigate and report back.

Status updates

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • typo in temporary table names for the updated ERD. (dietrich)
    • Completed

Roundtable

27-January-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-01-26

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-01-26

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

  • Blockers (http://tinyurl.com/5zpgx7)
    • bug 473058 (P2) – dietrich has a strategy, will have a patch later today.
    • bug 471352 (P2) – MaK77 cannot reproduce. Tracy will look into getting steps to reproduce.
    • bug 449406 (P2) – sdwilsh has a patch and is struggling with tests. Seems to work correctly in the browser, but not xpcshell.
    • bug 410196 (P2 added during meeting) – ddhal is going to pick this bug up
    • bug 474582 (P2 added during meeting) – already owned by MaK77. Patch is already up, but needs a test.
    • bug 475273 (P2 added during meeting) – already owned by MaK77. Patch is up for review from Mano.
  • Bugs targeted 3.1: (http://tinyurl.com/7cvrs7)
    • 34 bugs in total, 20 unowned
    • dietrich is going to go through those again to reduce that number and prioritize the remaining ones.
  • Bug Triage (http://tinyurl.com/a3j9p6)
    • 1538 open bugs (great progress from last time)
    • goal to remove another 50 by next week

QA Issues

No issues to report. Tracy says that the previous test week was a big success.

Marco needs helping finding steps to reproduce bug 471352. He has been unable to reproduce the issue. Tracy will look into it.

Tracy will also be verifying fixed bugs this week. Prepare for the bugmail.

Status updates

From last week, the following things had open action items:

Documentation Status:

  • Please review:
  • wiki.m.o
    • Places landing page is up to date (dietrich)
    • the old design overview and all the docs linked from it need “POSSIBLY OUT OF DATE”, linked to the landing page, or maybe MDC. (??)
    • need documentation on how to write SQL queries against the places back-end, for core developers.
      • Places SQL queries best practices (MaK77)
        • Not yet completed (eta is end of the week)
      • How to write queries in the new temp-table era (MaK77)
        • Not yet completed (eta is end of the week)
      • How to get to the places database/basic entry points (MaK77)
        • Not yet completed (eta is end of the week)
      • Invariants and triggers (sdwilsh)
        • Not yet completed (eta is end of the week)
      • Check over existing documentation for outdated information (sdwilsh)
        • Not yet completed (eta is end of the week)
  • MDC

Roundtable

  • Places platform-level priorities for 3.2 (dietrich will move these to the places planning page)
    • Make livemark children not bookmarks
    • Redo how we expire history visits. No longer expire on every OnVist; expire continuously. (reduces writes and fsyncs)
    • Make tags not bookmark folders
    • Async location bar queries
    • Ability to query based on transition type.

Bugs needing review:

  • triage UI-WANTED bugs to see if they still need UX input (please review your own for this)
  • 300+ unconfirmed places bugs, need to get this number down (all)

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