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25-November-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-11-24

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • Send a delicious cake to each of our RelEng Team for all their hard work getting SeaMonkey 2.35 and 2.38 out of the door. Assigned to Ratty.
    • Ewong has received his!
  • Need to port Sync 1.5 to SeaMonkey – IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.

CLOSED

  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek. [NB: The requisite patches *have* been pushed to the necessary repos (as part of the post-land-review process).]
  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Callek: Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I’m hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I’m realistic expecting it won’t be until january at earliest.
    • Ewong will set up a chron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [24th November 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
      • L10n repacks are broken on aurora and central because the patch from bug 1210791 hasn’t been reviewed yet.
    • comm-central:
      • Linux*: Green
        • (patches from bug 1187222 were post-land-review pushed.)
      • OSX64: Current status is that it is ‘busted’; but this is only because of the backlog. (87 pending build jobs)
        • Possibly busted due to bug 1223633, but will need to get past the busted compile step.
    • comm-aurora:
      • Mostly green.
      • OSX64 is very backlogged; But busted because of bug 1223633. Even if not busted, it’d be orange in some parts but that’s due to the firefox.dmg issue bug 958812.
    • comm-beta & comm-release:
  • Re: Tests.. Still broken.
    • Currently bug 1209378 is in progress to fix the perma-brokeness of our testing infrastructure; but it is ‘hard’.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.39 was released November 8th, 2015.
  • Next merge scheduled for December 14th.
  • Callek would like to get a 2.40 beta out soonish, however it won’t be earlier than 10th since there were a handful of changes that could affect our release process, the most notable of which was the “productdelivery move” (e.g. where we host our bits bug 1223633). We will need to do all the stuff manually.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Lightning 4.4b2 shows no button icons (that’s for SeaMonkey 2.39). To be fixed in bug 1211643. The patch now has reviews. Ratty will check the patch in RSN to com-central, comm-aurora, and comm-beta. comm-release pending approvals.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Ratty has the Firefox Devtools up and running. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.
    • Venkman is now totally retired R.I.P..

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.39

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (6)
targeted (2)
fixed (15)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • mozilla-central bug 1189918 and bug 1190465 allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic/default/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey bug 1022354 will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.
        • affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [bug 1222816], about:addons [bug 1222817], about:support [bug 1222818] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 37 new, 6 fixed, 13 triaged.

  • low triaging effort, larger than average number of new bugs filed.
  • Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a working Firefox Devtools!!!! Relevant patches:
    • bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it’s been moved out of /browser/ [checked-in].
    • bug 1223338 Add DevTools client L10N language files to SeaMonkey builds [checked-in].
    • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI. Waiting for review.
    • bug 1223344 Some tweaks to gDevTools.jsm to get Devtools working in SeaMonkey [Devtools]. Waiting for review.
    • Not working yet: WebIDE and Responsive Design. But everything else seems to work.
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans to remove:
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • if effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct
      • no sufficiently plausible specifics provided ‘why’ full themes ‘must’ no longer be supported
      • may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey
      • removal is “decided” without any clear alternative envisioned
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.

Open reviews/flags:
55 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
12 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

— Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

  • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Needs checkin:

  • bug 1222491 Update Modern theme for recent changes in web notifications.
  • bug 1223135 Switch Page Info to use principals.

Still needs comm-beta checkin:

Still waiting for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Rainer Bielefeld

I will not be able to participate.

DONE:

Triaging
Invitation (English and German) to users who have not been involved yet.
Additional invitations, marketing and so on by tonymec is a good idea.

TODO:

Release notes
We need some more than only replacing old version numbers by new ones, see various related Bugs

Any ideas how we can support? That should not be a task only for InvisibleSmiley, we will have to improve the very old concept of that page

Ratty

[From 2015-10-27 to 2015-11-10]
Fixed:

  • bug 1218103 Update references to devtools paths after bug 1203159 (Migrate DevTools resources to resource://devtools/ URLs).
  • bug 1218192 Addon manager fails to initialize properly on startup. Package Devtools-server files. [Instantbird]
  • bug 1219398 Restartless addons don’t work if the Devtools files are not packaged in the installer. [Thunderbird]
  • bug 1219308 Change BrowserSearch from a const to a var because ES7 changed how ‘const’ works.
  • bug 1221067 error: no matching function for call to ‘NS_NewStreamLoader’ [MailNews Core].
  • bug 1222472 (SeaMonkey) Use ObjDirPaths for GENERATED_INCLUDES and merge with LOCAL_INCLUDES.
  • bug 1222479 Use ObjDirPaths for GENERATED_INCLUDES and merge with LOCAL_INCLUDES (TB and IB)

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
  • bug 1149775 Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
  • bug 1211166 Use AppConstants in SessionRecorder.jsm [Toolkit]
  • bug 1218087 NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure arg 0 [nsICacheStorageService.diskCacheStorage] in pageInfo.js and metadata.js; [nsICacheStorageService.appCacheStorage] in pref-offlineapps.js.

[From 2015-11-11 to 2015-11-24]
Fixed:

  • bug 1149775 Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
  • bug 1223338 Add DevTools client L10N language files to SeaMonkey builds.
  • bug 1226822 |make pkg| fails with Error : suite/installer/removed-files.in:755: Removal of packaged file(s): extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi.

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
  • bug 1211166 Use AppConstants in SessionRecorder.jsm [Toolkit]
  • bug 1218087 NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure arg 0 [nsICacheStorageService.diskCacheStorage] in pageInfo.js and metadata.js; [nsICacheStorageService.appCacheStorage] in pref-offlineapps.js.
  • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.
  • bug 1223344 Some tweaks to gDevTools.jsm to get Devtools working in SeaMonkey.

Investigate:

  • bug 1224907 Bookmarks Manager Search Button is missing in SeaMonkey 2.3.9.

TODO:

  • Front end changes needed for bug 1042699 Block cross-origin add-on install requests.
  • Port bug 1048048 add preload content policy types for images.
  • bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

DONE:

  • The Triage HowTo page has been moved to SeaMonkey/QA/Triage_HowTo, still in this wiki, with the work-in-progress banner commented out and the “SeaMonkey QA” infobox added.
  • If a better name is found, anyone with a wikimoz account can move it. In that case, please update also the redirect at User:Tonymec/Triage HowTo and the infobox at Template:SeaMonkey-QA.
  • Otherwise, or after it is done, bug 1092632 can be RESOLVED FIXED.
  • IMHO this page can live on wikimoz, together with the other QA documentation.

TODO:

  • The next time I get a crash on a “build without symbols”, see if the minidump_stackwalk program used by tooltool, whose L64 version I have downloaded, can make sense of the crash data and of the crashreporter-symbols.zip to generate a human-readable stack dump.
  • If it can:
    • propose it as as something that can be distributed with trunk (and aurora?) builds of SeaMonkey. It is binary, not cross-platform, but different binaries exist for the different supported platforms. Maybe add the binary for the proper platform at the top level of the installdir, side-by-side with the “seamonkey” executable?
    • document it in the Triage HowTo, or as a side page linked to it, highlighting anything which gave me trouble and how to avoid my blunders.
  • See also bug 1214301 (and thanks to Ted Mielczarek for mentioning this program, and to Jesse Ruderman for helping me find it). I have listed some “interesting URLs” (mostly documentation) as an attachment to the bug, for future use by me or by anyone interested.

Any other business?

  • Px asks:
    • When will regular Windows builds be back online, what about adding x64 build too, at least for nightlies?
      • Callek: No x64 windows builds anytime soon for us.
      • Ewong is working on getting some builds automated.
    • FF team disabled all plugins except Flash for x64 builds, what about reverting this change for x64 SeaMonkey?
      • Callek: It was done for “better of the web” and “security” reasons, but I’m not strictly adverse to it either. I’d be happier if someone articulated a case for reverting the block of a specific plugin (which version[s]) and why?
  • —

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

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11-November-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-11-10

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • —

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • Send a delicious cake to each of our RelEng Team for all their hard work getting SeaMonkey 2.35 and 2.38 out of the door. Assigned to Ratty.
  • Need to port Sync 1.5 to SeaMonkey – IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek. [NB: The requisite patches *have* been pushed to the necessary repos (as part of the post-land-review process).]

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [10th November 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
      • L10n repacks are broken on aurora and central because the patch from bug 1210791 hasn’t been reviewed yet.
    • comm-central:
    • comm-aurora:
      • Mostly green. OSX64 orange in some parts but that’s due to the firefox.dmg issue bug 958812.
    • comm-beta & comm-release:
  • Re: Tests.. Still broken.
    • Currently bug 1209378 is in progress to fix the perma-brokeness of our testing infrastructure; but it is ‘hard’.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.38 was released September 26th 2015.
  • SeaMonkey 2.39 beta was released November 2nd.
  • SeaMonkey 2.39 final was released November 8th.
  • Next merge scheduled for December 14th.
    • mozilla-beta → mozilla-release merge happened on October 26th;
    • remaining merges were performed for October 28th already.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Lightning 4.4b2 shows no button icons (that’s for SeaMonkey 2.39). To be fixed in bug 1211643. The patch now has reviews. Ratty will check the patch in RSN to com-central, comm-aurora, and comm-beta. comm-release pending approvals.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.
  • Ratty has the Firefox Devtools up and running. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.38

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (1)
fixed (12)

2.39

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (6)
targeted (2)
fixed (15)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • mozilla-central bug 1146454 changed the printing API. IanN has migrated comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • mozilla-central bug 1189918 and bug 1190465 allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic/default/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey bug 1022354 will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.
        • affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [bug 1222816], about:addons [bug 1222817], about:support [bug 1222818] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 25 new, 10 fixed, 16 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a (mostly) working Firefox Devtools. Relevant patches:
    • bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it’s been moved out of /browser/
    • bug 1223338 Add DevTools client L10N language files to SeaMonkey builds.
    • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.
    • bug 1223344 Some tweaks to gDevTools.jsm to get Devtools working in SeaMonkey [Devtools].
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans to remove:
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • if effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct
      • no sufficiently plausible specifics provided ‘why’ full themes ‘must’ no longer be supported
      • may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey
      • removal is “decided” without any clear alternative envisioned
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • I have a new computer (at last) and on the last Sunday of August I even found out how to connect it to the Internet. I think the page is essentially finished but I badly need your opinion about it. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page and/or create its Talk page (and is welcome to). If you don’t have a wikimoz account you can still comment on the bug. — Tonymec (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2015 (PDT)
      • So far no wiki comments, no wiki changes, and no bug comments. If such an ear-splitting silence means that there is nothing to improve, please tell me where the page should find its permanent home. If somewhere at wikimoz I can move it myself once I know where. If elsewhere the move will have to be done by someone with file-create permissions at that location, together with a reformatting if not a wikimedia-powered site. I am willing to convert the page to “plain HTML+CSS” if the destination requires it. Tonymec (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2015 (PDT)

Open reviews/flags:
50 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
11 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

— Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

  • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • Struggled a bit with the 2.39 releases (2.39b1 and 2.39).
  • Trying to fix the test infra.
  • Working on the Sync patch.

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 1222707 “Change Home Screen” shows both the old and new homescreens with the same name
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

rsx11m

Waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

Filed:

  • bug 1222816 Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1222817 Restore about:addons UI (Addons Manager) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1222818 Restore about:support UI (Troubleshooting Information) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1222823 Tracking flag for status-firefox42=affected is still set automatically when filing SeaMonkey Trunk bugs.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • North-American Daylight Saving Time ended November 1st, thus back to regular 8am Eastern Standard Time.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-11-10&oldid=1105025”

28-October-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-10-27

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • None this time

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Send a delicious cake to each of our RelEng Team for all their hard work getting SeaMonkey 2.35 and 2.38 out of the door. Assigned to Ratty.
  • —

OPEN

  • Need to port Sync 1.5 to SeaMonkey – IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek. [NB: The requisite patches *have* been pushed to the necessary repos (as part of the post-land-review process).]

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [27th October 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central:
    • comm-aurora:
      • Linux32-debug : busted due to bug 1204162.
        • temporary patch was pushed to c-c so it’s green there; but, needs to either be pushed to comm-aurora and comm-beta, or the bug fixed. (depends on bug 1203803).
        • IanN has given approval for the temporary fix to be pushed to comm-aurora and comm-beta.comm-aurora is merging to comm-beta next Monday. If ewong times it right he can push it tomorrow and then we won’t need to push it to comm-beta.
      • OSX64: Busted due to bug 1208852 and bug 1218160.
    • comm-beta & comm-release:
      • OSX64: Orange: due to bug 958812 (This has always been orange since a long time ago – unfortunately, not in a galaxy far far away.)
  • Re: Tests.. Broken. Very Broken. [said with a James Bond accent.]
    • That said, all the tests are busted in some way or another. (SERGE… WHERE ARE YOU?)
    • Currently bug 1209378 is in progress to fix the perma-brokeness of our testing infrastructure; but it is ‘hard’.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.38 was released September 26th 2015.
  • 2.39 beta 1 will be spun tomorrow 2015-10-28 (bug 1217273).
  • Next merges:
    • mozilla-beta → mozilla-release merge happened on October 26th;
    • remaining merges scheduled for November 2nd.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Lightning 4.4b2 shows no button icons (that’s for SeaMonkey 2.39). To be fixed in bug 1211643.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.
  • On trunk, restartless add-ons were broken at some point after 19 October (due to bug 1203159 and/or bug 1217687 in Firefox::Devtools) then worked again after Ratty landed bug 1208112 on the 25th.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.38

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (1)
fixed (12)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • mozilla-central bug 1146454 changed the printing API. IanN has migrated comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • other affected pages are about:addons, about:support (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 24 new, 8 fixed, 24 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • I have a new computer (at last) and on the last Sunday of August I even found out how to connect it to the Internet. I think the page is essentially finished but I badly need your opinion about it. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page and/or create its Talk page (and is welcome to). If you don’t have a wikimoz account you can still comment on the bug. — Tonymec (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2015 (PDT)
      • So far no wiki comments, no wiki changes, and no bug comments. If such an ear-splitting silence means that there is nothing to improve, please tell me where the page should find its permanent home. If somewhere at wikimoz I can move it myself once I know where. If elsewhere the move will have to be done by someone with file-create permissions at that location, together with a reformatting if not a wikimedia-powered site. I am willing to convert the page to “plain HTML+CSS” if the destination requires it. Tonymec (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2015 (PDT)

Open reviews/flags:
51 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

— Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

  • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • Working on:
    • bug 1022319 – Implement support for sync 1.5 and FxA in SeaMonkey
    • bug 1209378 – [Tracking bug] Fix SeaMonkey’s testing infrastructure
    • bug 1213144 – Fix fallout from bug 957911

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Needs checkin and uplift to comm-aurora and comm-beta:

Still waiting for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it’s been moved out of /browser/.
  • bug 1215829 (package-manifest.in) Packaging update for SeaMonkey; Sync with Firefox; 2013 Part 2 of 2.
  • mozilla-central:
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Mozilla Core]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.
  • bug 1149775 Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance
  • bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
  • bug 1211166 Use AppConstants in SessionRecorder.jsm [Toolkit].
  • bug 1218087 NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Failure arg 0 [nsICacheStorageService.diskCacheStorage] in pageInfo.js and metadata.js; [nsICacheStorageService.appCacheStorage] in pref-offlineapps.js.
  • bug 1218103 Update references to devtools paths after Bug 1203159 (Migrate DevTools resources to resource://devtools/ URLs).

TODO:

  • Front end changes needed for bug 1042699 Block cross-origin add-on install requests.
  • Port bug 1048048 add preload content policy types for images.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

Pushed on github (thanks ewong!):

  • bug 1209484 Update SeaMonkey vulnerabilities page for 2.35 and 2.38 releases.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

Any other business?

  • North-American Daylight Saving Time ends November 1st, thus back to regular 8am Eastern Standard Time for the November 10th meeting.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-10-27&oldid=1102716”

13-October-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-10-13

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • Need to port Sync 2.0 to SeaMonkey – IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [29th September 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central to comm-beta:
    • comm-aurora to comm-beta:
      • Linux32-debug : busted due to bug 1204162.
        • temporary patch was pushed to c-c so it’s green there; but, needs to either be pushed to c-a and c-b, or the bug fixed. (depends on bug 1203803).
    • comm-release:
      • OSX64: Orange due to bug 958812. (This has always been orange since a long time ago.)
  • Re: Tests.. This hasn’t been mentioned before, but that was only because we have been trying to get our normal builds to run.
    • That said, all the tests are busted in some way or another. (SERGE… WHERE ARE YOU?)
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.38 was released September 26th 2015.
  • No ETA for 2.39 beta 1 yet.
  • Next merges:
    • Beta → Release merge scheduled for October 26th;
    • remaining merges scheduled for November 2nd.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.38

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (1)
fixed (12)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • mozilla-central bug 1146454 changed the printing API. IanN has migrated comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • other affected pages are about:addons, about:support (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 32 new, 1 fixed, 17 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, larger-than-average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • I have a new computer (at last) and on the last Sunday of August I even found out how to connect it to the Internet. I think the page is essentially finished but I badly need your opinion about it. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page and/or create its Talk page (and is welcome to). If you don’t have a wikimoz account you can still comment on the bug. — Tonymec (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2015 (PDT)
      • So far no wiki comments, no wiki changes, and no bug comments. If such an ear-splitting silence means that there is nothing to improve, please tell me where the page should find its permanent home. If somewhere at wikimoz I can move it myself once I know where. If elsewhere the move will have to be done by someone with file-create permissions at that location, together with a reformatting if not a wikimedia-powered site. I am willing to convert the page to “plain HTML+CSS” if the destination requires it. Tonymec (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2015 (PDT)

Open reviews/flags:
49 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
11 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

— Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1213703 Update en-GB for Gecko 42
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Waiting for review:

Still waiting for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Ratty

Fixed:

  • Bug 1212510 – Bustage fix: Rename NS_ParseContentType to NS_ParseResponseContentType (caused by Bug 1210302)

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Mozilla Core]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
    • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.
  • bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
  • bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it’s been moved out of /browser/.
  • bug 1211166 Use AppConstants in SessionRecorder.jsm [Toolkit].

TODO:

  • Front end changes needed for bug 1042699 Block cross-origin add-on install requests.
  • Port bug 1048048 add preload content policy types for images.
  • Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Waiting for re-review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

Posted patch and working with Mozilla staff on:

  • bug 1209484 Update SeaMonkey vulnerabilities page for 2.35 and 2.38 releases.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

See Feature List, Planning above.

Any other business?

  • European Daylight Saving Time ends October 25th, thus the October 27 meeting will be held at 13:00 UTC.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-10-13&oldid=1100301”

29-September-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-09-29

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Need to port Sync 2.0 to SeaMonkey – IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.

OPEN

  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [29th September 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central to comm-beta:
    • comm-aurora to comm-beta:
      • Linux32-debug : busted due to bug 1204162.
        • temporary patch was pushed to c-c so it’s green there; but, needs to either be pushed to c-a and c-b, or the bug fixed. (depends on bug 1203803).
    • comm-release:
      • OSX64: Orange due to bug 958812. (This has always been orange since a long time ago.)
  • Re: Tests.. This hasn’t been mentioned before, but that was only because we have been trying to get our normal builds to run.
    • That said, all the tests are busted in some way or another. (SERGE… WHERE ARE YOU?)
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.38 release:
    • Released September 26th 2015.
    • Merge day was September 21 as scheduled
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
ewong
  • Started doing nightlies again on the Win32, but due to the fact that they need to be triggered manually, ‘nightlies’ would be considered a misnomer. “Regularlies” would probably be a better word. Maybe “somewhat regularly”.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.38

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (1)
fixed (12)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • mozilla-central bug 1146454 changed the printing API. IanN has migrated comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 19 new, 16 fixed, 19 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort, medium-low number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • I have a new computer (at last) and on the last Sunday of August I even found out how to connect it to the Internet. I think the page is essentially finished but I badly need your opinion about it. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page and/or create its Talk page (and is welcome to). If you don’t have a wikimoz account you can still comment on the bug. — Tonymec (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2015 (PDT)

Open reviews/flags:
47 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
10 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
      • FIXED has landed, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • Been working on the 2.38 release and working on bug 1187222 for most of my waking moments.
  • Did start on the Sync 1.5 bug, but that got backburnered again.

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1200199 Update en-GB for Gecko 41
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Still need to look into that Livemarks bug…

Checked in to comm-central:

  • bug 1202216 Clicking on a desktop notification should switch to the notifying tab.
  • bug 1204513 DOM Full Screen should be really full screen.

Waiting for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Ratty

From the previous meeting. Reviewed and checked-in on a greenish tree:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1176602 Make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
  • bug 1192276 Restore about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles.

Fixed:

  • bug 1125689 Lightning isn’t working in SeaMonkey due to __LOCATION__ missing (Error: ReferenceError: __LOCATION__ is not defined). Do not pack Lightning into a XPI. Also leaves the default theme unpacked (needed for bug 1189918)

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Mozilla Core]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
    • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.
  • bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
  • bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it’s been moved out of /browser/.

TODO

  • Front end changes needed for bug 1042699 Block cross-origin add-on install requests.
  • Port bug 1048048 add preload content policy types for images.
  • Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Landed on comm-central:

  • bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.

Waiting for re-review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Updated Releases and main SeaMonkey wiki pages for 2.38 release.
  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

I have a new computer and I think the QA HowTo is essentially done. I badly need your opinion about it, and I don’t know where its permanent home shall be. See Feature List, Planning above.

Data Manager is badly broken, see bug 1208700

Any other business?

  • —

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-09-29&oldid=1098221”

15-September-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-09-15

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • ewong

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Need to port Sync 2.0 to SeaMonkey – IanN to talk to ewong about options.

OPEN

  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [15th September 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central & comm-aurora:
    • comm-release:
      • All platforms: Possibly bustage due to (early?) merge of m-b to m-r.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released on 23 March and is the most recent release.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
    • merge day was 10 August as scheduled
  • SeaMonkey 2.35 release:
    • Released September 3rd 2015.
  • SeaMonkey 2.38b1 release:
    • Released September 7th 2015.
ewong
  • Started doing nightlies again on the Win32, but due to the fact that they need to be triggered manually, ‘nightlies’ would be considered a misnomer. “Regularlies” would probably be a better word. Maybe “somewhat regularly”.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.35

open tracking (1)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (0)
fixed (45)

2.38

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (0)
fixed (7)

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Change to Safe Browsing
    • Change of printing API bug 1146454 needs to be ported, immediate bustage was fixed in bug 1190344.
      • IanN is working on migrating comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • further work to separate function from style in CSS for about:privatebrowsing in bug 1178008 (3rd-party themes)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend has gone away. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 17 new, 8 fixed, 18 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec’s current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags:
49 review
5 super-review
5 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
      • FIXED has landed, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • ‘Fought’ to release SeaMonkey 2.35 and 2.38b1.
  • Trying to fix the plethora of bustages, namely:
    • bug 1187222 – Supporting building with GTK3 in suite/

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1200199 Update en-GB for Gecko 41
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Still need to look into that Livemarks bug…

Needs checkin:

  • bug 1202216 Clicking on a desktop notification should switch to the notifying tab.

Need to update patch:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1204513 DOM Full Screen should be really full screen.

Still waiting for review:

Rainer Bielefeld

I will not participate.

Ratty

Have Review. Waiting for a greener tree before checking in:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1176602 Make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
  • bug 1192276 Restore about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles.

Fixed:

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Toolkit]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
    • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.
  • bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to Bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd.

Investigate:

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

Any other business?

  • —

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-09-15&oldid=1095369”

1-September-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-09-01

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Need to port Sync 2.0 to SeaMonkey – IanN to talk to ewong about options.

OPEN

  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [1st September 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central & comm-aurora:
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released on 23 March and is the most recent release.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
    • merge day was 10 August as scheduled
  • SeaMonkey 2.35 release:
    • (ewong) is expected this week, along with, hopefully, 2.38 beta. Due to certificate server issues, we need to do a beta release from 2.38 at the latest (2.39 would have problems).

SeaMonkey 2.35 Release

  • We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in August. We missed this deadline but should have a release this week (September).
    • For windows builds, we have a loaner win machine from Mozilla for us (i.e. ewong) to do manual window builds.
    • (ewong): Suggesting early September, but we shall see.
ewong
  • I have done nothing on the Nightlies/Aurora as I’ve been concentrating on getting Win32 builds and repacks done.
    • The Win32 2.35 release builds was completed on Friday (28th August 2015).
    • The 2.35 l10n Win32 repacks were done on late Sunday/Early Monday (30th/31st August 2015)
      • The busted l10n linux/osx repacks (ca, fi, ja(linux), ja-JP-mac(osx), sv-SE, pt-PT) were retriggered on Monday 31st August 2015.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.33

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (1)
targeted (0)
fixed (21)

2.35

open tracking (1)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (0)
fixed (45)

2.36

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (0)
fixed (7)

  • SeaMonkey 2.36 Release Notes (yet to come)
  • SEAMONKEY_2_36_RELEASE_BRANCH has been established in comm-release.
  • [Ratty] We will probably skip to SeaMonkey 2.38 after releasing SeaMonkey 2.35.

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Change to Safe Browsing
    • Change of printing API bug 1146454 needs to be ported, immediate bustage was fixed in bug 1190344.
      • IanN is working on migrating comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • further work to separate function from style in CSS for about:privatebrowsing in bug 1178008 (3rd-party themes)
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend has gone away. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • Removal of SSL 3.0 support after POODLE Attack with 2.36, see bug 1106470.
      • bug 1137991 has removed SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
      • bug 1149581 covers removal of the related strings
      • Firefox has proceeded with the removal in 39.0 given that Chrome goes the same way [3]
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [4]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 17 new, 8 fixed, 18 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec’s current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags:
49 review
5 super-review
5 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
      • FIXED has landed, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
    • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 – Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 – Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
    • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 – sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
    • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 – Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 – Kill make depend| to comm-central
    • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 – client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 – Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
    • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 – .mozconfig changes don’t cause configure to run| to comm-central
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1200199 Update en-GB for Gecko 41
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Sorry, I’ve not done much at all this fortnight due to illness.

Ratty

Has Review. Waiting for a greener tree before checking in:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1176602 Make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
  • bug 1192276 Restore about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles.

Fixed:

  • bug 1196422 error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol GetAsciiHostPort(class nsACString_internal &) [MailNewsCore].

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Toolkit]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
    • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.

Investigate:
Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

Any other business?

  • —
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-09-01&oldid=1093135”

18-August-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-08-18

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • Adrian Kalla

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. [Ratty] needs to file a bug. Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • Ratty has put up some win32 contributed builds on http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [18th August 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central & comm-aurora:
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.33.1 was released on 23 March and is the most recent release.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
    • merge day was 10 August as scheduled
  • SeaMonkey 2.35 release is expected this week, along with, hopefully, 2.37 beta.

SeaMonkey 2.35 Release

  • We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in August.
    • For windows builds, we have a loaner win machine from Mozilla for us (i.e. ewong) to do manual window builds.
ewong
  • I have (albeit inconsistently) generated Nightly Win32 trunk builds (2.39a1) and have uploaded them to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk.
  • bug 1177634 prevented me from building on the loaner. The patch attached to that bug is hot-patched to the source prior to the build. (Since this is a ‘building’ issue and not an application code issue, it shouldn’t affect running SeaMonkey.)
  • Complete/partial snippets are not available as I’m trying to figure ’em out.
  • After having done it for a day, the windows builds were broken by bug 1180065 and bug 1180356.
    • The patch attached to bug 1180065 is now pushed to buildbotcustom code repo for a post-land-review, so it’s working now,
    • bug 1180356 is fixed.
  • Trying to refactor the process to also include the l10n repack steps (which I’m still trying to figure out as I go along).
Ratty
  • IN PROGRESS: —
    • mozilla-esr38: Regularly merge default branch to SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH to pick up the latest stability and security fixes. We now have all the security and stability fixes that are now in Gecko 38.2+.
  • TO DO: —

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.33

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (1)
targeted (0)
fixed (21)

2.35

open tracking (1)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (0)
fixed (45)

2.36

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (0)
fixed (7)

  • SeaMonkey 2.36 Release Notes (yet to come)
  • SEAMONKEY_2_36_RELEASE_BRANCH has been established in comm-release.
  • [Ratty] We will probably skip to SeaMonkey 2.37 after releasing SeaMonkey 2.35.

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Change to Safe Browsing
    • Change of printing API bug 1146454 needs to be ported, immediate bustage was fixed in bug 1190344.
      • IanN is looking to migrate comm-central to the new API.
    • Change of add-on installation whitelist from a pref to permissions manager, bug 1072751:
      • bug 1190233 “Default” permissions being added to an existing profile without user’s consent or awareness.
      • some confusion whether or not they should be picked up by existing profiles or just by new ones.
      • patch ready for checkin and received branch approval to remove FF-specific sites from the current whitelist.
      • FIXED (thanks to Ratty for checking the patch in on all branches!)
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • further work to separate function from style in CSS for about:privatebrowsing in bug 1178008 (3rd-party themes)
      • Ratty is currently working on restoring about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [No bug number yet]
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
      • Ewong has set up a PoC FxA 1.5 server but need to complete the porting of the UI from Firefox.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • Removal of SSL 3.0 support after POODLE Attack with 2.36, see bug 1106470.
      • bug 1137991 has removed SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
      • bug 1149581 covers removal of the related strings
      • Firefox has proceeded with the removal in 39.0 given that Chrome goes the same way [3]
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [4]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 17 new, 8 fixed, 18 triaged.

  • Medium-low triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec’s current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags:
49 review
5 super-review
5 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
      • FIXED has landed, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
    • bug 1187964 View source from Thunderbird uses deprecated API
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Still need to look into that Livemarks bug…

Landed on comm-central before uplift:

  • bug 1131122 “Recheck Page” doesn’t recheck “Ignore All” words the first time.

Landed on comm-central before uplift and comm-beta after uplift:

Landed on comm-central before uplift and comm-beta and comm-release after uplift:

Waiting for more feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Rainer Bielefeld

German Blog statistics

To Dos

  • I am planning to add a category “SeaMonkey in business environment” (or so) for the German blog, because for those users the lacking of reliable information of next releases, security issues and similar is even more unbearable than for normal users. We should have something similar in the official blog, but currently nearby all requirements for a useful and attractive design are missing, see my posting Improvements for the Blog — Rrbd (talk)
    • Ideas?
  • What is so difficult with fixing “bug 1176562 – Please add SeaMonkey Blog to planet.mozilla.org“? — Rrbd (talk)
  • Strategic concept for SeaMonkey Help:
Help is outdated, buggy, a horror. KaiRo already suggested to change to a web based solution, but currently that will not help. It does not matter whether we have nobody to do maintenance for build-in help or nobody to do maintenance (and new creation) for a web based solution. We need a rough concept before we start to try to find volunteers
  • youth development: I know, that’s nearby more difficult than to find a spouse, but we can’t ignore that completely. I already tried to mentor these 2 possible volunteers from OpenHatch, but that did not work, I made several suggestions how they could become familiar with SeaMoneka project and find a working area, but they simply followed none of my suggestions.
    • Ideas?
  • SeaMonkey Add-On Compatibility database: currently we do not have a promising approach to enthuse SeaMonkey-Users to contribute their compatibility experience. Neither SeaMonkey/AddonCompat nor this will work. — Rrbd (talk)
    • Ideas?
  • bug 1165707 – Publish information concerning SeaMonkey e.V.: Is it really sure that that club does exist? I doubt that anybody will donate for such an organization what is completely unknown and where nobody knows for what donated money will be used.

Questions

  • Should we publish statistics of SeaMonkey downloads in the Blogs?

Info – no discussion required

  • Interest in 2.35 Language Packs was not big, 106 downloads, and I doubt that all those Linux downloads — what a coincidence, nearby all same number 4 downloads :-/ — were really user downloads.
  • Statistics unofficial German Blog: See at the right above! — Rrbd (talk)

Ratty

Has Review. Waiting for a greener tree before checking in:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1192276 Restore about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles (Needs one more review).

In Progress:

  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Toolkit]
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
  • bug 1176602 Make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
  • Working on SeaMonkey 2.35 Release. Bug triage and necessary preparations.

Investigate:
TODO:

  • Safe Browsing updates.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Landed:

  • bug 1141324 Upgrade the SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences to refer to TLS {instead,too}.
  • bug 1139004 Rename all “Character Encoding” to “Text Encoding” in Help content (Toolkit bug 951695).
  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)
  • bug 1190233 “Default” permissions being added to an existing profile without user’s consent or awareness. (all branches)
  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions. (prefpane part)

Waiting for ui-review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Waiting for dependencies:

  • bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.
    • to be reviewed once bug 1137991 has hit the releases (Firefox 39.0 was shipped with the SSLv3 removal code).
    • per bug 1141394, emk wants to wait until Chrome 44 is released before removing Firefox strings and interfaces.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • —

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-08-18&oldid=1090671”

4-August-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-08-04

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • None

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • Need to check if the carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content.
    • [Ratty] Discussed this with #amo developers over IRC. Confirmed that the Carousel can be populated but needs admin access. I noticed that one of the slides in the Firefox carousel was still showing St. Patrick’s Day theme. amyt tried to delete that slide but ended up deleting the whole carousel, so now the Firefox discovery pane has a large blank space too. So now we are at parity with Firefox, just not the way I expected.
  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Will be migrating to a single repo for all the RelEng tools. Ewong has created a patch and is awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • Ratty has put up some win32 contributed builds on http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [4th August 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central:
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

SeaMonkey 2.35 Release

  • We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in August.
    • For windows builds, we have a loaner win machine from Mozilla for us (i.e. ewong) to do manual window builds.
ewong
  • I have (albeit inconsistently) generated Nightly Win32 trunk builds (2.39a1) and have uploaded them to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk.
  • bug 1177634 prevented me from building on the loaner. The patch attached to that bug is hot-patched to the source prior to the build. (Since this is a ‘building’ issue and not an application code issue, it shouldn’t affect running SeaMonkey.)
  • Complete/partial snippets are not available as I’m trying to figure ’em out.
  • After having done it for a day, the windows builds were broken by bug 1180065 and bug 1180356.
    • The patch attached to bug 1180065 was manually applied to the buildbotmaster, so it’s working now (but needs to be reviewed and pushed to the buildbotcustom repo),
    • bug 1180356 is fixed.
  • Trying to refactor the process to also include the l10n repack steps (which I’m still trying to figure out as I go along).
Ratty
  • DONE: Again Merge mozilla-esr38 default branch to mozilla-esr38 SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH. We now have all the security and stability fixes that are now in Gecko 38.1.
  • IN PROGRESS: bug 1187952 Update comm-release client.py to pull from mozilla-esr38 SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH only.
  • TO DO: —

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld together with other community members have been updating the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter.
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.33

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (1)
targeted (0)
fixed (21)

2.35

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (2)
targeted (0)
fixed (44)

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Change of printing API bug 1146454 has broken printing from non-browser windows.
    • Change of add-on installation whitelist from a pref to permissions manager, bug 1072751:
      • bug 1190233 “Default” permissions being added to an existing profile without user’s consent or awareness.
      • some confusion whether or not they should be picked up by existing profiles or just by new ones.
      • patch ready for checkin and branch approval to remove FF-specific sites from the current whitelist.
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • further work to separate function from style in CSS for about:privatebrowsing in bug 1178008 (3rd-party themes)
      • Ratty is currently working on restoring about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [No bug number yet]
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
      • SeaMonkey won’t be allowed to use the Firefox Sync 1.5 servers. Ewong has set up a FxA 1.5 server and is looking into hosting our own FxAccounts server on a community machine or VPS.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • Removal of SSL 3.0 support after POODLE Attack with 2.36, see bug 1106470.
      • bug 1137991 has removed SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
      • bug 1149581 covers removal of the related strings
      • Firefox has proceeded with the removal in 39.0 given that Chrome goes the same way [3]
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [4]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 32 new, 15 fixed, 23 triaged.

  • Medium-high triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec’s current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags:
45 review
5 super-review
4 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
      • ready to land, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
    • bug 1187964 View source from Thunderbird uses deprecated API
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1190185 Switch default search engine to DuckDuckGo
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Misak

  • bug 1189619 Port bug 1188745 [Rename nsTArray::SizeOfExcludingThis() as ShallowSizeOfExcludingThis() ] to comm-central
  • bug 1189736 Port bug 1189156 [Don’t use enumeration style in hash table SizeOf*() functions ] to comm-central

Neil

Whoops, forgot to look into that Livemarks bug…

Landed on comm-central, comm-aurora, comm-beta and comm-release:

  • bug 1115566 Certificate exception dialog not working for Mail & Newsgroups.

Waiting for greener trees:

Waiting for feedback:

  • bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

Rainer Bielefeld

PENDING:

  • * Nothing new about bug 1145026 – AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane — Rrbd (talk) 04:36, 4 August 2015 (PDT)

IN PROGRESS:

TO DO:

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 1153577 Users should be able to hide the menubar and show it with the ALT key.
  • bug 1164817 .eml files should be opened in a mail message window and not in a browser window
  • bug 1174601 Copy nsDragAndDrop.js from toolkit to SeaMonkey because it will be removed in bug 1162050.
  • bug 1177979 Gtk3 build fail with /usr/bin/ld: libxul.so: hidden symbol `_ZN26nsMessengerUnixIntegrationC1Ev’ isn’t defined.
  • bug 1178459 Run password autofill code when a password field is added to a document outside of a <form> (Port relevant parts of bug 1168707).
  • bug 1183351 Update suite moz.build files for GTK3.
  • bug 1186579 TypeError: aEvent.target is undefined when calling openUILink(kSupportUri, {}); [Lightning]
  • bug 1188393 (package-manifest.in) Packaging update for SeaMonkey; Sync with Firefox; 2013 Part 1.
  • bug 1189528 mailnews/local/src/nsMailboxService.cpp:29:22: fatal error: nsRefPtr.h: No such file or directory.

Has Review:

In Progress:

  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
    • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
  • bug 1176602 In message compose make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
  • Working on SeaMonkey 2.35 Release. Bug triage and necessary preparations.
    • bug 1187952 Update comm-release client.py to pull from mozilla-esr38 SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH only.
    • Merge mozilla-esr38 default branch to mozilla-esr38 SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH. We now have all the security and stability fixes that are now in Gecko 38.1
    • See Also: bug 1177041 (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35 (and dependencies).

Investigate:

  • According to John-Galt the reason we have a blank space in the discovery pane of the addons manager is that our carousel is empty. So we can fill it with links to the addon converter etc (we may need admin access). Need to ask Mossop who in Firefox land is responsible for updating their Carousel and what the procedure is.
    • Some progress. We know it can be done, but requires admin access. Over at #AMO amyt tried a few things and now Firefox doesn’t show the carousel at all. [well that’s one way of achieving parity-firefox but not quite what I expected].

TODO:

  • Safe Browsing updates.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1141324 Upgrade the SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences to refer to TLS {instead,too}.
  • bug 1139004 Rename all “Character Encoding” to “Text Encoding” in Help content (Toolkit bug 951695).
  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)
  • bug 1190233 “Default” permissions being added to an existing profile without user’s consent or awareness. (mitigating patch)

Waiting for branch approval:

  • bug 1190233 “Default” permissions being added to an existing profile without user’s consent or awareness. (mitigating patch)

Waiting for ui-review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

Ready to land:

  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions. (prefpane part)
    • would be visible in non-release versions only for testing, but
    • uncertain if it does anything useful in SM right now

Filed:

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Waiting for dependencies:

  • bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.
    • to be reviewed once bug 1137991 has hit the releases (Firefox 39.0 was shipped with the SSLv3 removal code).
    • per bug 1141394, emk wants to wait until Chrome 44 is released before removing Firefox strings and interfaces.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • —

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-08-04&oldid=1088177”

21-July-2015

SeaMonkey: 2015-07-21

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • Need to check if the carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. Ted might know.
  • —

OPEN

  • bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Currently two option patches awaiting for Callek’s decision. Once settled, ewong will follow up with RelEng patches based on that decision.

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • Ratty has put up some win32 contributed builds on http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting’s Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [21th July 2015]
    • All trees:
      • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
      • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
    • comm-central:
      • All platforms: Busted due to bug 1185583. Patch is awaiting review.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

SeaMonkey 2.35 Release

  • We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in July.
    • For windows builds, we have a loaner win machine from Mozilla for us (i.e. ewong) to do manual window builds.
    • Ratty has landed various patches on the comm-release’s SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH (bug 1177041) and merged recent post-38.1.0 checkins into it on mozilla-esr38.
ewong
  • I have (albeit inconsistently) generated Nightly Win32 trunk builds (2.39a1) and have uploaded them to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk.
  • bug 1177634 prevented me from building on the loaner. The patch attached to that bug is hot-patched to the source prior to the build. (Since this is a ‘building’ issue and not an application code issue, it shouldn’t affect running SeaMonkey.)
  • Complete/partial snippets are not available as I’m trying to figure ’em out.
  • After having done it for a day, the windows builds were broken by bug 1180065 and bug 1180356.
    • The patch attached to bug 1180065 was manually applied to the buildbotmaster, so it’s working now (but needs to be reviewed and pushed to the buildbotcustom repo),
    • bug 1180356 is fixed.
  • Trying to refactor the process to also include the l10n repack steps (which I’m still trying to figure out as I go along).
Ratty

DONE:

  • bug 1177041 (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35 (and dependencies).
  • bug 1185824 (SM2.35-mozilla-esr38-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to mozilla-esr38 relbranch for SeaMonkey 2.35.
  • Created SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH on mozilla-esr38 (bug 1179808) and comm-release (bug 1180911.
    • SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH on mozilla-esr38 is branched off THUNDERBIRD_38_VERBRANCH. This should contain all the stability and security fixes for mozilla-esr38 which saves us a lot of work. (seems to be the way to go)
    • Also I’ve been doing regular merges from default to SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH which means we are at par with Gecko 38.1.0.

IN PROGRESS:
TO DO:

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld together with other community members have been updating the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter.
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.33

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (1)
targeted (0)
fixed (21)

2.35

open tracking (1)
tracking requests (3)
targeted (0)
fixed (40)

  • SeaMonkey 2.35 Release Notes (yet to come)
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Current 38.0-branch releases are subject to Logjam weak-encryption downgrade attack [3] due to security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha and security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha being enabled by default
      • bug 1138554 fixed in NSS 3.19.1, uplifted to branches for 39.0+ with bug 1166031, and verified fixed for SM 2.36
      • 2.35 release branch has been established per bug 1179808 to proceed with mozilla-esr38 (THUNDERBIRD_38_VERBRANCH) so it will ship with NSS 3.19.2

2.Next

  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • —
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Fallout thus far: bug 1133380 about:privatebrowsing (Default), bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
      • further work to separate function from style in CSS for about:privatebrowsing in bug 1178008 (3rd-party themes)
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
      • SeaMonkey won’t be allowed to use the Firefox Sync 1.5 servers. Ewong has set up a FxA 1.5 server and is looking into hosting our own FxAccounts server on a community machine or VPS.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • Removal of SSL 3.0 support after POODLE Attack with 2.36, see bug 1106470.
      • bug 1137991 has removed SSL 3.0 checkbox from SSL preferences
      • bug 1149581 covers removal of the related strings
      • Firefox has proceeded with the removal in 39.0 given that Chrome goes the same way [4]
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [5]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

With Firefox announcing that XUL/XBL will be removed in the next couple of years probably, what is SM’s long-term plan to be able to maintain its UI? Discuss.

  • was discussed last time and deferred due to the lack of any specific roadmap and insufficient information what exactly is planned.

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 30 new, 13 fixed, 19 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
    • Progress is stalled due to hardware/firmware problems with Tonymec’s current computer. Current ETA for newer computer is after Easter but this is a rough estimate. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page (and is welcome to). — Tonymec (talk) 17:35, 21 January 2015 (PST)

Open reviews/flags:
46 review
5 super-review
5 ui-review
11 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • ‘Fixed’:
    • Non-SM bugs that fixes some bustages that affect SM.
      • bug 1177634 – error occurred while processing the following file: access denied to suite/app.mozbuild
      • bug 1181434 – Fix fallout from bug 905127 due to missing headers for mail/ and mailnews/
  • Still working on the loaner: repacks and builds.

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Rainer Bielefeld

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Pending from Meeting 2015-07-07

I am going to contact lemon_juice and to discuss with him how to get some progress for folowing bug reports Rrbd (talk) 09:13, 21 July 2015 (PDT)

    • Anything new about bug 1151227 – Add-on Manager discovery pane: add Banner with link to Add-on-converter? Rrbd (talk) 04:09, 7 July 2015 (PDT)
    • Anything new about bug 1145026 – AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane? Rrbd (talk) 04:11, 7 July 2015 (PDT)
New
  • This Page is more or less the only existing source with information concerning currently discussed issues, project progress and so on. But for people only reading from time to time it is difficult to see what are pending items and what are latest news. We should try to add such info without causing too much more work. Rrbd (talk)
  • The picture at the right shows weekly statistics for German Language SeaMonkey Blog Rrbd (talk)

Ratty

Worked on SeaMonkey 2.35 Release. Bug triage and necessary preparations.

  • bug 1177041 (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35 (and dependencies).
  • bug 1185824 (SM2.35-mozilla-esr38-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to mozilla-esr38 relbranch for SeaMonkey 2.35 (and dependencies).
  • Created release branches on comm-release, and mozilla-esr38.

In Progress:

  • bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI for SeaMonkey.
  • bug 1164817 .eml files should be opened in a mail message window and not in a browser window
  • bug 1176602 In message compose make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).

Has Review:

  • bug 1153577 Users should be able to hide the menubar and show it with the ALT key.
  • bug 1174601 Copy nsDragAndDrop.js from toolkit to SeaMonkey because it will be removed in bug 1162050.
  • bug 1177979 Gtk3 build fail with /usr/bin/ld: libxul.so: hidden symbol `_ZN26nsMessengerUnixIntegrationC1Ev’ isn’t defined.
  • bug 1178459 Run password autofill code when a password field is added to a document outside of a <form> (Port relevant parts of bug 1168707).
  • bug 1183351 Update suite moz.build files for GTK3.

Fixed:

TODO:

  • Packaging updates.
  • Safe Browsing updates.
  • According to John-Galt the reason we have a blank space in the discovery pane of the addons manager is that our carousel is empty. So we can fill it with links to the addon converter etc (we may need admin access). Need to ask Mossop who in Firefox land is responsible for updating their Carousel and what the procedure is.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

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Still waiting for checkin:

  • bug 1141324 Upgrade the SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences to refer to TLS {instead,too}.

Still waiting for ui-review or review:

  • bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.
  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)

Still waiting for feedback:

  • bug 1127784 [EME] Add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions. (prefpane part)

Reopened for a minor follow-up fix, awaiting review:

  • bug 1139004 Rename all “Character Encoding” to “Text Encoding” in Help content (Toolkit bug 951695).

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Waiting for dependencies:

  • bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.
    • to be reviewed once bug 1137991 has hit the releases (Firefox 39.0 was shipped with the SSLv3 removal code).
    • per bug 1141394, emk wants to wait until Chrome 44 is released before removing Firefox strings and interfaces.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

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