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Mobile: 2013-10-02

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  • Next merge is 2013-10-28

Topics for This Week

New Home Page

Core work was uplifted to Aurora. Landed a few performance and memory usage fixes on m-c, which need to be uplifted too.

Favicon Work

We have a few favicon issues that need patches and uplift to Aurora. These must be done with care. We have a large favicon patch landing on Nightly soon. Watch for regressions.

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge.

  • errietta filed and fixed bug 921756 – ButtonToast tries to modify views it can’t (first mobile patch!)
  • capella fixed bug 917944 – Remove “Most recent” header in history page and bug 917297 – Clicking on a link sometimes results in a JS error to logcat instead of navigation

Stand ups

Suggested format:

  • What did you do last week?
  • What are working on this week?
  • Anything blocking you?

Please keep your update to under 2 minutes!


  • Last week:
    • landed bug 911574 to fix scrolling on yahoo fantasy sports and other pages
    • landed bug 911152 to fix scrolling on but it was backed out for seemingly-unrelated randoms. currently debugging
    • landed bug 921477 to fix a typo in cert code
    • landed bug 918682 to fix fullscreen mode in some scenarios
    • landed bug 916379 to fix a koi+ bug on B2G where pages were rendered zoomed in initially
    • landed bug 919437 to fix the values of window.innerWidth and window.innerHeight to be consistent with other browsers
    • discussed and came up with a plan for compositor-thread input event handling with roc, BenWa, and nrc
    • reinstalled linux on my desktop machine because python is hard to upgrade
    • interviews, reviews, overhead, etc.
  • Next week:
    • re-land bug 911152
    • get back to working on bug 920036 (input events on B2G) now that we have a consistent plan for making that happen
    • summit!



  • WebRTC uplifting & upstreaming
  • bug 921041 Replace the thread local storage impl of GetJNIForThread
  • bug 709230 Investigate ProGuard to shrink and optimize Fennec’s
  • WebRTC UI test
  • CPU Load Monitor / WebRTC adaption
  • Debug builds break all the time, we do no tests on them, SO NOW THEY DONT EVEN COMPILE.


  • Last week: in Chicago attending the C++ Standards Committee Meeting
    • see dev-platform thread for news about what happened there
  • Next
    • Continue dynamic toolbar work for B2G, notably bug 912666
    • Summit


Last week:

  • Almost done Spatial Navigation bug 698437
  • Resolved bug 813379: sending speculative connections to default search engine
  • worked on bug 813380: sending speculative connections to links in the awesome screen, but that got marked WONTFIX
  • started work on bug 852935: enabling gamepad API for android
  • almost done bug 863966: caching selector list for querySelector and querySelectorAll
  • Granted my first review! changes to a bit I wrote in the DOM

Next week:

  • Work on enabling gamepad APIs
  • Refactor code in mobile/android

Brian N


  • blue highlight overscroll
  • Bug 780379 – Firefox mobile cannot open .m3u8 file (broken file?)
  • Bug 777451 – Allow better communication between pages and java in robocop tests
  • Bug 757481 – Tests for prompt service
  • Bug 920170 – Provide an intent chooser dialog type


Last week

  • New about:home
    • Uplifted new-new-abouthome to Aurora
    • bug 919516 – [Tablet] The previous bookmark in the list is opened when opening bookmarks from the Bookmarks list
    • bug 906230 – Hide the Reading List page in about:home on low memory devices
    • (In progress) bug 918007 – Tapping on back/forward buttons should dismiss editing mode on tablets
    • (In progress) bug 917776 – The Custom Menu should not be accessible while in edit mode
  • Startup glitches
    • bug 917805 – Current tab is briefly visible when you open an external link
  • Misc
    • bug 911695 – Reader mode toolbar icons are blurry
  • Many patch reviews

Next week

  • Reading List / Reader Mode v2 planning with ibarlow
  • Bug Triaging FAQ
  • about:home bug fixing for Fx26
  • Summit!


  • In Progress/Next
    • More new-about-home fixes needed for 26
    • Summit!



  • Reviewing favicons, FxA, etc.
  • Landed thumbnail fix: bug 919768
  • Working on distribution IDs in FHR: bug 922694


  • At an appointment, so status update on wiki only.
  • Firefox Accounts:
    • Landed BrowserID crypto tools and Mozilla Token Server client (Bugs 799734 and 799732, respectively).
    • First working Sync demo against Firefox Account (new auth) + Sync 1.1 code base (old Sync protocol).
  • JUnit 3 testing:
    • Landed build system improvements and code to build background.apk (the JUnit 3 test suite) (Bugs 919563 and 903534, respectively).
  • Next:
    • Summit!
    • Trying to push Eclipse/IntelliJ project building forward
    • Landing more Sync updates and Firefox Account IDP client
    • Building a test harness for JUnit 3 testing

Randall Barker

  • Last week:
    • Still working on bug 895358
    • Implemented posix version of cross process mutex to protect unsafe shared memory.
    • Reading through code
    • Learning how not to use Mercurial.
  • Next week:
    • Get patch up for review?
    • Summit


  • patch up for review for tab sharing in bug 742832


  • Getting second-screen patches started through feedback cycle
  • Getting GeckoView patches started through feedback cycle
  • Fixed a GeckoView issue
  • Summit
  • Feature planning

Ian Barlow

  • Lots of little bugs
  • Helped to refine our big brainstorm list a bit
  • Drafting a design strategy deck for the next 6-12 months of work
  • Summit


Out today

Round Table


  • Firefox 25
    • Tracking 25+
    • Crashes
      • Beta 25 is higher in crash rates than Beta 24 was
      • bug 917515 (mozilla::Selection::Collapse) is #2 on Beta 25, needs uplift
      • bug 903993 (spike in is #3, should have landed for b4.
  • 24 release has ~50% higher crash rates than 23 did
    • bug 890985 (crash in nsStandardURL::SetSpec @ nsStandardURL::BuildNormalizedSpec) and bug 760394 (android.database.CursorWindowAllocationException..) need followup investigation
    • bug 884047(crash in mozilla::gl::GLLibraryEGL::fMakeCurrent @ libEGL) should be fixed in 25.


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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Planning: 2013-10-02

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  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Finch Conference Room
  • #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99696 (US/INTL)
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  • Vidyo Room: ProductCoordination
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Actions this week

  • Attend summit, this meeting is cancelled.

Thunderbird: 2013-10-02

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SeaMonkey: 2013-10-01

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  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty and Logbot
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • No Award

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • We are perma-red and perma-orange on comm-central due to not having a recent enough version of Python (or if we do, the build scripts aren’t finding them).
    • On trunk Linux and OSX trunk builds are perma-red. Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
    • pymake is failing with “invalid syntax” again because of an outdated Python.
  • No Windows langpacks since 8th April on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • (as well as …/mac/xpi/) contain nothing more recent than 2.20a1. Not sure if a bug has been filed. Linux-i686 is OK… when the Linux builders are green of course. Linux-x86_64 langpacks were never built (enhancement bug 892418), so that’s OK too. Callek told me on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first. This is low priority since langpacks are supposed to be the same regardless of on which platform they were built, but it might indicate (I haven’t checked) missing “full builds” for W32 and Mac other than en-US. Tonymec (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
    • Trunk, Aurora and Beta TBPLs are far more orange (or even red) than green; at the top of Aurora and Beta TBPLs there is a link to bug 870207 which is RESOLVED WONTFIX since June. SeaMonkey::RelEng bug 884454 has been opened as a followup.
  • Newer version of TBPL at [1].
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings until he gets things stable enough to reopen the tree.
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.21 final has been released September 17, 2013.
  • No ETA for SeaMonkey 2.22b1. Thunderbird 25.0b1 hasn’t been released either.
    • Release is delayed until Ewong gets in contact with Callek.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • bug 888478 DOM Inspector could not be installed.
    • The Windows version of SeaMonkey 2.21 is affected but not Linux. The install.rdf is missing in affected builds. The last SeaMonkey 2.23 nightly build (before uplift to 2.24) does not seem to be affected possibly because of the other build changes during that cycle (bug 914560).
  • There are now Lightning versions for both SM 2.20 (Lightning 2.5b2) and SM 2.21 betas (Lightning 2.6b1) available on AMO.
    • Might need to point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to does not jump to the correct page position as loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
  • Tb/Sm QuickFolders development version 3.12beta2 released 2013-09-18 includes among other things “numerous SeaMonkey bugfixes” which aren’t yet in the “stable” version 3.12 — or in the beta1 for that matter. Since then a beta3 has already been issued, and on September 25 a “3.12.1 maintenance release with important bugfixes” whose release notes don’t explicitly mention SeaMonkey (but the same “SeaMonkey bugfixes” are probably included).

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (1)
fixed (41)


  • Current issues:
    • [MailNews] Multiple issues with HTML signatures have been reported. SeaMonkey 2.21 and Thunderbird 24.0 are experiencing fallout from making signatures opaque (bug 855135, bug 855684). Printing of signatures is broken (bug 920997). This was caused by Core bug 700003. Some Thunderbird users don’t like their entire signature being grayed out (bug 917906)
  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don’t depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2. Mcsmurf is currently working on this.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default –disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 – SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now working and uplifted to SeaMonkey 2.19. Currently we are treating this feature as Experimental because although most things are working some edge cases have probably been missed. Hopefully any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • TODO The about:privatebrowsing page needs UI polish (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 52 new, 18 fixed, 20 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags:
23 review
7 super-review
2 ui-review
6 feedback

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).


Fixed bug 916678 Add SeaMonkey 2.21 to bouncer.


  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.


  • Fixed bug 845895 Fix markPageAsXXX usage in SeaMonkey
  • Filed bug 917725 Consolidate utils.js and PlacesUIUtils.jsm
  • Filed bug 919126 Deploy Python 2.7.3 on SeaMonkey build/test machines
  • Working on bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2
  • Fixed bug 856208 Stop using global-history;2 in SeaMonkey code
  • Reviewed bug 914611 Inconsistent references to plugin placeholder elements
  • Some bug triage


Fixed on comm-central and comm-aurora:

  • bug 916631 Session restore doesn’t always restore all tabs.

Fixed on comm-central, might need comm-aurora uplift:

  • bug 914611 Inconsistent references to plugin placeholder elements.

Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 913948 getCachedBySubdomainAndName’s array length should be optional from JS.
  • bug 920073 Use nsString.h less.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 906920 Implement additional toolkit features in XPFE autocomplete widget.
  • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.
  • bug 920677 Click-to-play plugins fail to show placeholder after resizing.
  • bug 920947 Need to remove plugin doorhanger when last CTP plugin is removed from document.
  • bug 921751’s -o option writes incorrect line endings on Windows.

Poking at:

  • bug 514173 Make string literal buffers shareable.


Instead you can view the web console remotely once you enable the built-in debugger. Now with full review!



  • bug 906433 Port | bug 902721 [Session Restore] Remove _dirtyWindows and replace it with a weak set | to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 906516 Port | bug 903388 [Session Restore] Collect cookie hosts *after* serializing session history | to SeaMonkey.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 919668 Port | bug 637020 Invalidate windows after they have been restored to ensure their data is collected the first time we save | to SeaMonkey.

In progress:

  • bug 869900 Port | bug 867118 Remove browser.__SS_data and use a WeakMap instead | and dependent bugs to SeaMonkey.


Fixed since the last meeting:

Waiting for check-in:

  • bug 154772 Tooltip for address bar should show complete current URL.

Working on:

  • bug 58986 The Find dialog should show autocomplete with recent searches.
  • bug 916865 Revert the part of bug 906083 which changed the
  • bug 920070 Add a few IDs to the File menuitems to make it easier for extensions to overlay.
  • bug 920951 Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central bug 842828.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Fixed on trunk, waiting for branch approval:

  • bug 918425 Print dialog box appears under other open windows for Mail & News.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 902131 Add note for “legacy content” to Mail & News Character Encoding preferences and update Help.
  • bug 916823 Change Folder Properties labels for incoming mail character encoding from “default” to “fallback” after bug 846221 introduced it for browser prefs. (TB ui-r pending)
  • bug 919347 Incorrect label for SSL Warnings preferences in Security Sockets Layer pane.
  • bug 904189 Document changes in SSL warnings and new options for mixed content blocker in Security Socket Layer preference pane.

Cancelled review:

  • bug 868495 Browser main preference pane cut off on Windows 7 with hardware acceleration enabled. (additional patch)


  • bug 918853 Existing Thunderbird profile is no longer offered for import in a first-run situation.
  • bug 921507 Find in page/Quickfind bar animation shows up at the bottom while the bar itself is positioned at the top. (closed WFM due to backout)


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • Who is going where for the Mozilla Summit 2013?
    • Brussels: Callek, IanN, mcsmurf, Mnyromyr, Neil.
      • Tonymec lives in Brussels but won’t be at the Summit due to Paris/Brussels mixup. Welcome to any Sea Monkeys at his home or in a pub in town!
    • Santa Clara: KaiRo, Ratty.
    • SeaMonkey people who are in Brussels for the Summit will do a meet-up. This will be coordinated via the mailing list.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Thunderbird: 2013-10-01

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Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Meeting Changes


aceman, clokep, jcranmer, mconley, mkmelin, rolandtanglao, rkent, JosiahOne, sshagarwal

Action items from last meetings

  • [Standard8] mconley nominates Chiaki Ishikawa for friend of the tree. Swag?
  • [Standard8] Are WADA and Aryx from previous nomination covered already?
    • I sent mail for both of these, but I think Standard8 is traveling.

Friends of the tree

  • rkent nominates jcranmer for nearly getting the tree green

Current status and discussions

Critical Issues

  • Roland: no support issues as far as i can tell (other than gmail condstore and other known issues)
  • mconley: add-on reviews seem to be quite behind.


Round Table

  • mconley
  • clokep
    • Quentin Headen has finished up his GSoC — Yahoo chat protocol
    • Currently merging Instantbird changes into c-c in bug 920801
      • Invalid cert handling
      • Yahoo prpl
      • Better character counting in Twitter, IRC
  • jcranmer
    • Awaiting review from Neil on several JSMime patches
    • Planning for EAI and IDN
  • JosiahOne
    • Continuing to knock out theme bugs
    • Animated TB tabs are almost done, just waiting on review.
  • rkent
    • Exquilla is fully out and working reasonably well! (Using TB as an email-client for Exchange Web Services).
      • The hacks are incredible. [mconley says] You have no idea what kind of hacks rkent has to do. They’re unreal. rkent wants to reduce the number of hacks that he has to use in order to reduce fragility.
      • [mconley says] rkent would like to be able to use a separate database for message storage, because Mork is insanity.
      • [mconley says] rkent thinks TB needs sources of monetization. irving loves to work for free, but some of us like to be paid, so that’s what I am working on, to monetize Exquilla.
  • aceman
    • Working to fix breakages that are candidates for TB 24.0.1, e.g. bug 922614, bug 882901, bug 921410.

Question Time

  • [jcranmer]: With Thunderbird 31 it makes sense to have some kind of new feature that we can put into the What’s New page that is easily visible to users. What feature is this?
    • [jcranmer]: Internationalized email addresses? [aceman says] What is not working with them? There were some patches in the past to allow sending to IDN I think (ask mkmelin). (but only email addresses, not server hostnames).
    • [jcranmer]: new addressbook?
    • [jcranmer]: Recording a video message, and sending it through external file storage service as a link (like Filelink)
    • [jcranmer]: OTR chat
  • [jcranmer says] Wanted to talk with asuth and squib about making Gaia email client and Thunderbird share more code. Will send email this afternoon.
  • [rkent]: When is the information going to be publicly available for TB usage

Action Items

  • mconley
    • Thunderbird usage data isn’t public. Standard8 was tasked with getting that information released. What’s the status on that?

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Mozilla Platform: 2013-10-01

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Hot Bugs

(Important bugs for which we need to find owners or additional help. If known, please include suggested team or knowledge needed to advance the bug.)

Orange Factor

  • bug 921171 – crash in js::NukeCrossCompartmentWrappers – this is #3 and concerning on Aurora and needs investigation
    • Johnny to find someone to look into this

The Need To Know

(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)

Notices/Schedule (akeybl/lsblakk/bajaj)

Next Merge: October 28, 2013 Next Release: October 29, 2013
Central: 27 Aurora: 26 Beta: 25 Release: 24
34 bugs (36 bugs last week) 44 bugs (52 bugs last week)
Unresolved Aurora 26 Trackers (non-security, not tracked for Beta) Unresolved Beta 25 Trackers (non-security)

Build Changes (gps)

(Build changes of which engineers should be aware.)

Upcoming Outages/Upgrades

(System outages/upgrades and tree closures that impact engineering.)

Key Issues

(Non team specific issues that impact engineering.)

Team Stand-ups

(In <2 mins, what did your team accomplish last week, on what is your team working on this week, and on what, if anything, is your team blocked? No questions during the stand-ups. All questions should be asked during the roundtable.)

Accessibility (dbolter)

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Add-on SDK (dtownsend)

No update

App Tools (dtownsend)

No update

Developer Tools (robcee)

  • Closure Inspection in the Debugger’s Variables View bug 810966
  • Color unit dropdown for the Inspector bug 775135. Available in the Options Panel.
  • Now opening the Browser Console instead of Error Console with -jsconsole flag on command line bug 860672

Firefox Desktop (gavin/dolske)

Firefox Metro (bbondy/jmathies/mbrubeck)

  • Still targeting a Fx27 release; working through a long list of blocker bugs.
  • Biggest area of work is still panning/zooming/gfx.
    • Implemented “axis locking” for AsyncPanZoomController; may be useful for B2G too: bug 892684

Firefox Mobile (mfinkle/blassey)

  • Fix for landed for Nightly Fx27 (by way of backing out bug 875731), bug 921944 Regression: Unable to initiate a download
  • All UI changes have been uplifted to Aurora Fx26 bug 917394
  • Other fun stuff:

Firefox OS Browser (blassey)

  • UA Override follow ups
    • bug 916205 – Create and enable dynamic UA override list in B2G
    • bug 917965 – UA overrides are disabled if update is invalid

Firefox OS Communications (scravag)

<Read Only>

  • 1.3
    • some user stories have been flagged as committed (mostly for Messaging)
    • DSDS support is a commitment but we still don’t have an agreement for the scope we must cover.
  • koi? : 31 to be triaged.
  • koi+ : 25

Firefox OS Devices/Porting/Bluetooth (mchen)

<Read Only>

  • Device Porting
    • Flatfish
      • JB MR1 (4.2.2) Porting on Nexus 4.
      • bug 920921 – Analysis the low graphic performance on allwinner platform.
      • bug 919252 Fix bugs.
  • Sensor
    • bug 908058 – add orientation keyword ‘default’ to express normal orientation
  • FOTA
  • Bluetooth
    • Bluedroid: Working on BluetoothSocket and A2DP/AVRCP
    • Try to let A2DP/AVRCP profile pass PTS.
    • Stabilize BT on V1.2 branch.

Firefox OS Haida (scravag)

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Check the wiki FirefoxOS/Haida for charts and roadmap

meta bug for tracking: bug 918790

  • prototype replaceable homescreen has landed bug 898330
  • New Windows manager is under active should be ready by October 25th
  • Datastore API should be delivered October 11th
  • Edge gstures implementation has started (in advance) some tests have been made for making the difference between edge gestures and app gestures. It is working very well.
  • UX input for Browser is awaited by the end of this week

Firefox OS Media Apps (hema)

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  • Last Week
    • Continue working on Blocking bugs for 1.2
    • Adding capability to create ring tones from songs – we would like to get this into 1.2 release
    • Adding music controls on lockscreen (1.3)
  • This Week
    • Continue to work on blocking bugs for 1.2
    • Planning 1.3 release contents for media team. Our primary focus is on camera and gallery features (also including feedback from recent User Research Studies on Camera features: flash, auto-focus, digital zoom).

Firefox OS Media Recording (cjku)

<Read Only>

  • WebRTC
    • bug 918523 – getUserMedia audio streams will be released after a period of time while running in a background app
    • bug 853356 [B2G getUserMedia] Display front/back camera list on permission prompt
  • MediaRecord
    • bug 891704 – [MediaEncoder] Implement MP4Writer
    • bug 911046 – WebRTC OmxCodec coding path support
    • {{Bug|916135} – Investigate webaudio mochitest timeouts on B2G
  • Gfx
    • bug 919410 – [LockScreen] Fix the glitches among the sliders when user is pulling the handle

Firefox OS Productivity (doliver)

<Read Only>

No new news this week. Continuing work on blocking bugs for v1.2 and POP3 implementation for v1.3.

Firefox OS Radio/GPS (kenhkchang)

<Read Only>

  • Last week
    • Fix koi+ issues.
    • RTSP Client, to support rtsp streaming framework.
    • NFC –
      • To implement reading NDEF message for NFCD.
      • To discuss NFC communication protocol with DT.
    • EAP-SIM, to study if we can implement EAP-SIM function without modify wpa-supplicant.
    • Multi-SIM, to enable emulator functions for Multi-SIM.
    • WPA-EAP, to implement key manager function.
    • WIFI-Direct, to do the WIFI-Direct porting on Nexus 4.
    • Power metering, to move the power metering function from Gecko to Gaia.
  • This week
    • Fix koi+ issues.
    • RTSP Client, to add the test cases for RTSP
    • NFC –
      • To refine the NFCD code and prepare for landing code.
      • To add NFC communication protocol in nfcd.
    • EAP-SIM, try to read the authentication data from SIM card, testing in Nexus 4.
    • Multi-SIM, to implement webapi for DSDS.
    • WPA-EAP, to import PKCS#12 CA by wifimanager.
    • WIFI-Direct, to support start/stop DHCP server in Network Manager.
    • Power metering, to discuss the WebAPI.

Firefox OS Systems – Platform (timdream)

<Read Only>

Will switch to v1.3 list next next week. See

  • Tablet: Swipe to home landed, minor tweak to wrapper toolbar, orientation: default landed
  • 3rd-party keyboard framework: OOP is still pending; working on some koi+ bugs
  • Simplified Chinese IME: no update
  • Gaia build script: Fx extension is landed, asking help for build script work
  • Window management upgrade: no update

GFX (milan)

  • Unifying the graphics team, now including most people working on the graphics
    • Unified agenda, mobile and desktop
  • Work week Oct 21-25

Identity (jedp)

<Read Only>

  • people in transit/PTO pre Summit
  • persona on desktop (ozten)
  • persona on fxos ftu (jedp)

JS (naveed)

NOTE: JavaScript GGC team meeting in Mountain View November 18th.

  • Last Week
    • Compiler (JIT)
      • bug 918405: Enable OSR-ing into Ion in functions with needsArgumentObject
      • Profiled dromaeo DOM Traversal (Prototype) benchmark for slowdowns. Identified disabled ion-compilation of ‘$’ function because it contains a JSOP_SETARG and it uses magic arguments.
    • Garbage Collection
    • Front End and Other
      • Start-up Cache work to improve load times
      • bug 913260: Added “distinguished amounts” to the memory reporter manager. This reduces implicit dependencies between the memory reporters and consumers such as about:memory and telemetry.
  • Blockers
    • None

Layout (jet/dbaron)

<Read Only>

  • Work week Oct 21-25
  • Some Layout updates missed in earlier meetings:
    • bug 298619 – Use EXIF image orientation in top-level image document
    • bug 910506 – update harfbuzz to upstream release 0.9.21
    • bug 906521 – SVG-in-OpenType text implementation
    • bug 913438 – Speed up Background Image layout
    • bug 875250 – implement CSS parsing of text-orientation, text-combine-horizontal properties

Media (jesup)

<Read Only>

  • Daala – coding party is happening now today, tomorrow and Thursday (Oct 3) in the MV office. The goal is to move the new video codec forward. No DSP knowledge required. Any time you can give the project is appreciated. If interested, please contact Maire ( More details are here.
  • If you have any trouble getting a WebRTC call to connect successfully, please file a bug and copy Maire (
  • getUserMedia audio for B2G will be supported in v1.2. The rest of WebRTC (gUM video, PeerConnction, DataChannels) for B2G is targeted for v1.3.

Necko (dougt/jduell)

<Read Only>

  • Finally landed off-main thread OnDataAvailable for image parser!
  • predictive API and disabling speculative connections are struggling with failures that only happen on try/inbound. But we’re hopefully close.
  • Http cache: fixing bugs from intial testing. Decided to work on keeping cache index to handle eviction efficiently.
  • Resource timing getting close–will land single-process only for now.

Performance (vladan)

  • As of today, Telemetry data from non-release channels is being fed exclusively into the new Telemetry dash. New dash:
  • We’re starting to look into potential of launching plugins/plugin instances asynchronously
  • Perf team will be giving talks in Toronto and Brussels during the summit

Seceng (mmc)

  • Landed Bug 842828 and are now close to turning on Application Reputation by default in Nightly – two bugs remain.
  • Re-organized sandbox syscall whitelist for easier development on multiple platforms; you can now use the —enable-content-sandbox flag on 64 bit linux – Bug 914716

WebAPI (overholt)

Quality Programs

(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)

CritSmash (dbolter)

The bugs are too damn high!

Please check the bugs in your component

MemShrink (njn)

No update.

OrangeFactor (ryanvm)

  • Past week’s OrangeFactor: 4.75 (Previous Week: 4.6).
  • 14 intermittent failures fixed in the last week – List – Thanks!.

Stability (kairo/bsmedberg)

  • Overall numbers look good – mobile beta and release are higher than usual, bugs are tracked.


(Comments and questions that arise during the course of the meeting or otherwise do not have a section.)

<Read only beyond this point>

Friends of the Tree

There were lots of great changes by volunteers in Core and Toolkit during the past week. Thanks to all of these contributors for their passion and hard work! Here are some highlights:

  • Kailas added categories to SSL errors in the browser console (bug 898712).
  • Neil Rashbrook (NeilAway) reduced the uses of nsString.h (bug 920073).
  • Doug Crosher (dougc) fixed some IonMonkey and OdinMonkey problems (bug 920452, bug 921437, bug 921490).
  • [first patch!] Tareq Khandaker made mach build all dependencies for paths specified (bug 869613).
  • Glenn Randers-Pehrson upgraded libpng to 1.6.6 (bug 841734, bug 853190).
  • Andy Wingo (wingo) improved the API for self-hosted JS (bug 920433).
  • Frank Yan (fryn) unprefixed -moz-grab and -moz-grabbing (bug 880672).
  • [first patch!] Wesley Chalmers fixed numeric conversion edge cases for certain WebIDL types (bug 891537).
  • Robert Longson (longsonr) fixed an SVG BBox problem with css frames (bug 919900).
  • Jacek Caban fixed MinGW build errors (bug 919479, bug 919513).
  • Rick Eyre (reyre) fixed various WebVTT problems (bug 883173, bug 919265, bug 920088).
  • Geeksphone fixed a graphics issue while scrolling on certain mobile devices (bug 903374).
  • Dan Gohman (sunfish) fixed a SpiderMonkey assertion and did some cleanup (bug 900683, bug 918023, bug 920061).
  • Birunthan Mohanathas (poiru) cleaned up some win32 and layout code (bug 783333, bug 906852, bug 919729).
  • Martin Stránský did some more GTK2->GTK3 work (bug 884708).
  • [first patch!] erietta cleaned up some uneeded OS.File test code (bug 918354).
  • Mark Capella (capella) made TableExists work for temporary tables (bug 472963).
  • Abhishek Potnis (abhishekp) fixed an undefined reference in the addon manager code (bug 909159).
  • Ms2ger updated our suite of web platform tests (bug 919520, bug 920043, bug 920064).
  • Chris Jones (cjones) made a build step more verbose when it fails (bug 920703).
  • Cykesiopka contributed to the build system conversion (bug 914273).
  • Jan Beich fixed more BSD build errors (bug 920112, bug 921658).

Mailing List Threads

(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)

Good Reads

(Links to blog posts, books, videos, etc. that you think will be of interest to others.)

irc #planning Log From This Meeting

[2:00pm] lmandel:
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[2:01pm] lmandel: RyanVM|sheriffduty: Thanks
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[2:03pm] joduinn is now known as joduinn-mtg.
[2:03pm] lmandel: jst, naveed: Thanks for jumping in on that.
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[2:04pm] naveed: lmandel : I changed JS to NOT READONLY just now - please refresh - i ahve one note to make
[2:04pm] lmandel: naveed: OK.
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[2:06pm] catlee: joduinn-mtg, lmandel: I have one follow up item
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[2:09pm] mfinkle: blassey doesn't give flowers
[2:09pm] blassey: I do give hugs though
[2:09pm] catlee:
[2:09pm] mfinkle: bear hugs
[2:10pm] joduinn-mtg: blassey: the trick is to remember the difference between "running tackle" and "hug"
[2:10pm] grace joined the chat room.
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[2:10pm] blassey: there's a difference?
[2:10pm] joduinn-mtg: catlee: tell me when you've hit save, I'll re-add my edits-in-progress about the monitoring
[2:11pm] joduinn-mtg: blassey: 
[2:11pm] ozten joined the chat room.
[2:11pm] joduinn-mtg: akeybl: ++ to having the b2g milestones here, for context on gecko changes
[2:12pm] akeybl: thanks joduinn-mtg yeah #1 priority in B2G right now is proper focus and urgency
[2:13pm] catlee: joduinn-mtg: I hit save
[2:13pm] coop|mtg is now known as coop.
[2:13pm] jhopkins|mtg is now known as jhopkins.
[2:14pm] margaret: one gfx team to rule them all
[2:14pm] joduinn-mtg: hard to hear (milan?)
[2:14pm] milan: sorry about that - i guess i was facing the camera instead of the microphone
[2:14pm] lmandel: KaiRo: Stabiliity update?
[2:15pm] lmandel: bsmedberg: ^
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[2:15pm] KaiRo: lmandel: nothing from me
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[2:15pm] bsmedberg: no
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[2:15pm] joduinn-mtg: milan: no worries. i dont know where the mic is in that room
[2:15pm] milan: ceiling, I think
[2:16pm] joduinn-mtg: well, lmandel has clear voice, so whatever he is doing is great.
[2:16pm] rstrong joined the chat room.
[2:16pm] lmandel: joduinn-mtg: I just try to speak loudly
[2:17pm] • mbrubeck moves the camera in TOR away from pointing out the window
[2:17pm] breck joined the chat room.
[2:18pm] margaret: it's nice to see some former employees in the friends of the tree section
[2:19pm] • mbrubeck wonders if fryn will be at the summit
[2:19pm] teoli joined the chat room.
[2:19pm] mbrubeck: There is both a "Frank Yan" and a "Frankie Yan" in the Google Docs spreadsheet
[2:20pm] rail-lunch is now known as rail.
[2:20pm] margaret: heh, frankie works for us
[2:21pm] mbrubeck: wow
[2:21pm] mbrubeck: I see
[2:21pm] dbaron left the chat room. (Quit: 8403864 bytes have been tenured, next gc will be global.)
[2:21pm] mbrubeck: They're both going to brussels (unless fryn cancelled), so they can meet at last. 

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