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5-December-2013

Mobile: 2013-12-04

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Schedule

  • Next merge is 2013-12-09
  • Release calendar has been tweaked for the following merge

Topics for This Week

Nightly got borked

Multi-locale builds ended up with zero locales packaged, not even en-US. Needless to say, this is bad. Fix landed on mozilla-central last night (thanks glandium) but AaronMT noticed the updates didn’t get completely fixed. Those are being fixed now (thanks bhearsum).

Locale Switching

Richard landed the core of the locale switching code. He has an add-on you can play with to test it out. We plan on making a full Settings UI for switching in the future.

Quick Share

The parts of the new multi-service Quick Share feature that landed in Fx28 will be disabled for the Aurora merge. We don’t have enough of the feature ready to justify shipping what is ready.

Cleanup Work

With merge happening in a few days, MFinkle got on a soapbox to push for cleaning up know regressions and tweaks to existing features. Let’s try to minimize Aurora uplifts by fixing stuff now.

Page Load Competitiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxYMKXqNUPU to see how bad things can look. MFinkle has some experimental patches for preloading/prefetching. BLassey noted that we have regressed pageload on Eideticker significantly over the last year, and that we’re not updating Chrome on those tests.

UITest Framework

Should be landing today (bug 910859), barring a quick review. Was fixing an intermittent (bug 938969) which has passed on try. Documentation for the framework is mostly completed and available at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android/UITest

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge. New contributors are highlighted in bold.

  • CJ Barker fixed bug 870049 – Added SharedPreferences to persistent Crash Report client settings
  • Jacob Liebert [:intrepid] fixed bug 871884 – Change text input default in Android browser to capitalize first character in a sentence
  • Taylor Skidmore [:SirSkidmore] fixed bug 916483 – Replace usage of fastFind with finder (and bug 938818, which was backed out, but that was our fault not his!, and bug 941795)
  • Michael Boon fixed bug 923237 – Updater should immediately apply update when downloaded manually
  • ckitching landed his ProGuard work! – bug 913985 and bug 709230
  • capella fixed a bunch of bugs
    • bug 943742 – Swiping closed non-selected tabs from tray leaves TabCounter incorrect in current screen
    • bug 938563 – Select all + copy on textarea doesn’t copy linebreaks
    • bug 934470 – Cursor pin disappears on drag in textarea input

Stand ups

Suggested format:

  • What did you do last week?
  • What are working on this week?
  • Anything blocking you?

Please keep your update to under 2 minutes!

James W. (snorp)

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  • Working on Skia rebase and build system update to make future rebases easier
  • Investigating awful performance on Nexus 10

Kats

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  • PTO last week
  • Working on various APZC things for Metro and B2G
  • Building up a backlog of Fennec panning bugs that I will probably tackle after the merge.

Chris Lord (cwiiis)

  • Done
    • bug 931238 – Fix tile coherency checks and convert to using typed units
    • bug 945277 – Make sure display-ports are tile-aligned for sub-frames
    • bug 944047 – Scrolling with APZC enabled often causes parts of the view to be erased in Gaia
    • Blog post about efficient animation for web games
  • Doing
    • bug 943846 / bug 936500 – Scrolling very fast with APZC enabled can cause the screen to go blank
    • Further APZC fix-up efforts for b2g

JChen

  • Past weeks
    • Landing bug 940737 – Monitor Compositor thread hangs using BackgroundHangMonitor
    • Finally landed background hang monitor
      • bug 909974 – Background thread hang monitoring
      • bug 932865 – Background thread hang reporting
      • bug 935092 – Make a way to get another thread’s pseudo-stack
    • Investigated bug 935831 – segfault on Android 2.3 [@ memcpy | libfreebl3.so (deleted)@0x7549]
    • Worked on bug 942470 – test_user_agent_updates.html intermittently fails to unset its override of the UA string
    • Worked on ANR telemetry backend ([1] and [2])
  • Next
    • Work on improved ANR dashboard
    • Work on background hang backend

GCP

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  • Last week:
    • Holidays
    • Video Framerate/Size adaption investigation
  • Next week:
    • Adapt the adaption for CPU load

Randall Barker

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  • Last Week: Still trying to land bug 895358. Need a review of the Cross Process Mutex. Working on bug 942069.
  • This Week: Continue getting up to speed on WebRTC in Android and work on related bugs.

Brian Nicholson

WesJ

  • Fallout from action mode stuff:
    • Bug 943513 – Visual refinements to action bar mode
    • Bug 942680 – Regression: Google Search engine and search suggestions opt-in hidden behind urlbar
  • Bug 834358 – Make pdf.js usable on Android
  • Digging into moz-pay marketplace stuff

LucasR

Last week

  • bug 944537 – Only use gecko to decide whether to show Tab progress or not
  • bug 941825 – Make BookmarksListAdapter’s swapCursor() idempotent
  • bug 945375 – When choosing share from the three-dot-menu, Firefox crashes
  • bug 944533 – Re-implement toolbar’s display UI state management
  • bug 946233 – Revert FF28 to single quickshare behaviour
  • bug 943915 – Move SiteIdentityPopup to the toolbar package
  • bug 945212 – Encapsulate identity data/security mode behind a type-safe API
  • bug 942862 – Factor out display UI into a separate View
  • (In progress) Make HomePager configurable (bug 942231, bug 940565, bug 942875)
  • (In progress) Working on a ‘Firefox for Android in 2013’ blog post
  • Tons of patch reviews

Next week

  • Land major toolbar refactoring after the merge, file more follow-ups
  • Submit initial set of HomePager patches for feedback
  • Celebrate FF26!

Margaret

  • In Progress/Next
    • Organizing bugs for third party service integration MVP (“Lists”) – tracked in bug 941312
    • API to allow add-ons to register lists on about:home – bug 862805
    • Content provider to back lists data – bug 941318 (also bug 941357 for cleaning up current content provider code)
    • Talk at Mozilla “Geek Girl Dinner”

mcomella

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RNewman

MFinkle

  • Started playing around with some speculative connections (bug 943475) and hacky pre-rendering (bug 945408)
  • Working to land the core second screen code (bug 938571) next week

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  • Feeling more cranky than normal

Ian Barlow

Arun

  • Autofill improvements
    • Currently slide deck’ing to wrap research
    • Starting design phase this week (w/ Ian)

Security/MGoodwin

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  • Last week – not much
  • Next week:
    • Secreview work on QuickShare
    • Secreview work on WebRT / Android

WebRT

  • install/launch patch posted to bug 934756 yesterday for feedback
  • uninstall implementation ready for feedback as of this morning and will be included in next version of install/launch patch
  • automatic updates are in progress
  • pre-submission development experience needs product input, meeting tomorrow

Feature Focus

New Train Schedule: http://mzl.la/1bIq9LO

Fx26, Ships 12/10
Fx27, Ships 02/04
Fx28, Ships 03/18
Fx29, Ships 04/29
Fx30, Ships 06/10

Round Table

Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 99998
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 99998
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99998
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 99998
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 99998
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • Mobile Vidyo Room
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Notes/04-Dec-2013&oldid=780596“

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Planning: 2013-12-04

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Schedule & Progress onUpcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop & Platform

Current Releases

  • EOL for ESR 17 next week. Updates will be provided to ESR 24.2.0.
  • Firefox 26 RC with QA – shipping on Tuesday

Beta (26)

  • FF26 is in good shape, no known issues

Aurora (27)

  • FF27 ready for Beta, no known issues

Nightly (28)

  • Merge day is on Monday Dec 9th, we’ll be putting holly branch to Aurora, not mozilla-central because of Australis (which is staying on Nightly).

Firefox Metro

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  • Team working on Iteration #20 until Friday December 06.
  • Final development iteration before uplifting to Aurora 28 next week.
  • To date, 43 out of 75 points completed.
  • Expecting 25 points of work to carry over into Aurora.

ID Summary Priority Status
918253 Defect – Unable to choose both Nightly and Firefox from Control Panel defaults P2 ASSIGNED
924886 Story – Update Metro session store component to share same session store state as Desktop’s session store P2 ASSIGNED
940168 Defect – Running firefox.exe from installation path doesn’t switch to metro environment when running P2 ASSIGNED
944781 Defect – Toolbar icons have gotten lighter on Windows 7 P2 ASSIGNED
944825 Relaunch in Windows 8 style nightly should prompt for default on Holly if not already default. P2 ASSIGNED
946181 [l10n] Rename entities switch-to-metro-button.label and switch-to-metro-button.tooltiptext to reflect updated content P2 ASSIGNED
939705 Defect – Arrow keys not working in context menu P2 ASSIGNED
936897 Defect – Download progress bar not appearing after first tab is closed (this._notificationBox.appendNotification is not a function) P2 ASSIGNED
850372 Defect – Support proper shutdown when the browser is suspended and the system reboots P2 ASSIGNED
895686 Change – Add updated icons for contextual appbar. P2 ASSIGNED
903284 Change – [l10n] Clarify labels and icons for the contextual appbar P2 ASSIGNED
903426 [l10n] Change – In-content crash reporter prompt P2 ASSIGNED
886321 Story – APZC metrofx issue tracking P1 RESOLVED
944740 [Australis] Don’t show »Metro Mode« button on non-Windows-8 platforms P1 RESOLVED
831986 Story – Double-tap Zoom P1 RESOLVED
840855 Defect – Dialogs intermittently fail to accept touch input P2 RESOLVED
918203 Defect – Several seconds delay before adjusting when transitioning into filled view P2 RESOLVED
922456 Defect – GFX issues when moving between different views (Full, Filled & Snapped) P2 RESOLVED
941292 [l10n] Change – Add ‘search settings’ to the ‘settings’ menu P2 RESOLVED
942389 Defect – Text selection highlight colors in chrome and content don’t match P2 RESOLVED
932999 Defect – Download button has white arrow on light background P2 RESOLVED
941592 Defect – double-tap to zoom fails if the user zooms out P2 RESOLVED
942689 Defect – Simulated mouse events for tap gestures do not include modifier key info P2 RESOLVED
943451 Defect – Return of double tab! (touchstart.preventDefault does not prevent clicks in Metro chrome) P2 RESOLVED
943735 Defect – Typing backspace in the urlbar should de-select the selected autocomplete tile P2 RESOLVED
945539 Defect – Metro download button has wrong layout on high-DPI screens P2 RESOLVED
942915 Decide on placement for “Metro Mode” button in Australis P2 RESOLVED
944828 [l10n] – Finalize verbage for Metro button text in Australis P2 RESOLVED
940101 Defect – Switching between Firefox Desktop/Firefox Metro environments not always working P2 RESOLVED
940936 Change – Use profile name in registry sync prefs for WindowsPrefSync.jsm P2 RESOLVED
944434 Defect – Updates from Desktop on Oak launch the metro browser instead of Desktop to perform the update P2 RESOLVED
930288 Defect – Tab previews appear “zoomed” after using snapped view P2 RESOLVED
933989 Defect – New tab button in tab bar always sets focus to the url bar, triggering soft keyboard P2 RESOLVED
943542 Defect – this._onClickCoords is not a function in SelectionHandler.js P2 RESOLVED

Firefox Mobile

Beta (26)

We’re good to go

Aurora (27)

Nightly (28)

  • There has been some nightly bustage, sorry everyone! Multi-locale builds ended up being empty that got fixed last night and actual updates were fixed this morning…
  • Fixed, bug 943742 – Swiping closed non-selected tabs from tray leaves TabCounter incorrect in current screen
  • Landed bug 936756 – Switch locales via pref, not via system locale setting which is part of bug 935025 which is is pretty darn awesome
  • [AT RISK] bug 768667 – Use the action bar for text selection on ICS+, bug 943513, bug 942680 <== top issues, UI and regression google search and search suggestions hidden behind URL bar
  • [ON TRACK] bug 852608 – Add support for OpenSearch. Firefox Mobile supports <link rel=”search”>
  • [ON TRACK] Dynamic snippets support preffed off
  • [ON TRACK] bug 932865 – Hang detection
  • [ON TRACK] Added locale: Estonian (et)
  • [ON TRACK] Added locale: Belarusian (be)

Developer Tools

  • Outbound
    • planning Aurora Hacks Post for Dec 17th
    • releasing Add-on SDK 1.15
      • target date is Thursday  Dec 12th
      • also planning Add-on Builder EOL notice for the same day, will ping communications@ with a blog draft this week.
  • Landings

UX & User Research

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Market Insights from the Market Strategy Team

Desktop / Platform

  • IDC forecasts worldwide PC shipments to fall by 10.1% In 2013; volumes expected to stabilize above 300 million units per year, but with no significant recovery. Enterprise sales are down 5% and consumer sales are down 15%. [1] Worldwide tablet shipments are expected to reach 221.3 million units in 2013, 53.5% above 2012 levels. Shipment growth is forecast to slow to 22.2% year over year in 2014, and down to single digits by 2017. [2] Phablets appear to cannibalize the smaller tablet form factors and usage scenarios. [3]
  • Spider.io demonstrates how easy it is to use malware with less than 100 lines of code to impersonate real website visitors and visit webpages of the botnet’s choosing. This generates traffic from residential IP addresses with real user cookies and with real mouse traces and click events. [4] Some publishers are supposedly optimizing their sites for bot-generated traffic. [5] While the top 500 retailers have increased paid search spend 25% [6], adtech fraud costs advertisers an estimated $7m per month and make Facebook more attractive. [7]
  • Internet browser reviews often use older versions [8] of all browsers and reflect areas for improvement in startup time and navigation time. WebRTC implementation comparisons show comparison’s between Firefox and Chrome with ratings neck-and-neck without significant differentiation in quality. [9] Rendering engine comparisons are also using older version and rank Gecko with competitors [10]. The list used as the top website creation software packages are expensive. [11]

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

  • Brazil Desktop Campaign: We’ll be launching this by the end of the week. Get ready, Brazil. [Kristin, Laura & NoBox]
  • Indonesia Desktop Campaign: Now live in Indonesia. Goal is to help increase usage levels within Indonesia within Q4. Get your Kumi paper toy here or use this Indonesian Theme here. [Gen, Viking]
  • Australis Marketing Launch: The Engagement team “wave” is currently reviewing channel launch plans. The final launch plan will be presented to core Firefox product team early Jan [Laura]
  • Van’s Social API Sidebar: This social API implementation is helping to support our overall Van’s Triple Crown sponsorship and makes Firefox the best browser to keep up with contests. It’s now live here.
  • Firefox for Windows 8 Touch: Now has an official name – Firefox for Windows 8 Touch. Thanks to Pete and Karen for helping us reach a decision. Contact Karen or myself if you have naming or usage questions. [Laura]

Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Finch Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99696 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99696 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: ProductCoordination
  • Vidyo Guest URL
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Firefox/Planning/2013-12-04&oldid=780657“

4-December-2013

Mozilla Platform: 2013-12-03

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Hot Bugs

(Important bugs for which we need to find owners or additional help. If known, please include suggested team or knowledge needed to advance the bug.)

Orange Factor

Stability

Other

The Need To Know

(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)

Notices/Schedule (akeybl/lsblakk/bajaj)

  • FF 26.0b10 built and shipping this afternoon (PST)
  • FF 26.0 RC built and with QA
  • ESR 24.2 going to build tomorrow, ESR 17.0.11 will auto-update to ESR 24.2
  • reminder about the 2 week push out – see https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar for 2014 release dates
Next Merge: December 9, 2013 Next Release: December 10, 2013
Trains
Central: 28 Aurora: 27 Beta: 26 Release: 25
46 bugs (36 bugs two weeks ago) 0 bugs (40 bugs two weeks ago)
Unresolved Aurora 27 Trackers (non-security, not tracked for Beta) Unresolved Beta 26 Trackers (non-security)

Build Changes (gps)

(Build changes of which engineers should be aware.)

Upcoming Outages/Upgrades

(System outages/upgrades and tree closures that impact engineering.)

Key Issues

(Non team specific issues that impact engineering.)

Releng (catlee)

  1. Last week we stopped running 10.7 tests and we re-purposed those machines as 10.6
  2. Next week we will be killing builds and tests for esr17
  3. Infra is running on Ash to continue graydon’s work to push Android 2.3 testing to emulators/EC2

Team Stand-ups

(In <2 mins, what did your team accomplish last week, on what is your team working on this week, and on what, if anything, is your team blocked? No questions during the stand-ups. All questions should be asked during the roundtable.)

Accessibility (dbolter)

  • no update

Add-on SDK (dtownsend)

No update

App Tools (dtownsend)

No update

Developer Tools (robcee)

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Contributions from community members:

  • Autocomplete via the Debug protocol bug 842682
    • Shows suggestions from the current debugger frame if paused.

Firefox Desktop (gavin)

  • Australis reminder: This Nightly->Aurora merge is special. We’ll be merging Holly to Aurora, rather than mozilla-central. Holly is mozilla-central minus Australis.

Firefox Metro (bbondy/jmathies/mbrubeck)

  • Desktop/Metro browser profile sharing landed in Monday’s nightly. Please file any bugs you find against tracking bug 924860.
  • We’re still planning on rolling out with fx28, with continued polish work on Aurora after next week’s merge.
  • B2G landings recently broke apzc scroll and zoom and no tests picked this up. We’re working on getting some front end apzc tests going to prevent this in the future.

Firefox Mobile (mfinkle/blassey)

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  • Browsing is busted in nightly bug 945723 initial backouts for what we thought were the offending patches in bug 936756 did not fix the problem which isn’t too surprising since we were super careful with the landing. Looks like something larger might be happening given bug 945750
  • bug 709230 – (Proguard) Use ProGuard to shrink and optimize Fennec’s Java .class files. Landed in Fx28 and is activated. Documentation should be available soon.
  • Fixed in Fx28 bug 943742 – Swiping closed non-selected tabs from tray leaves TabCounter incorrect in current screen
  • We are looking into how much of a regression this is bug 944429 Talos regressions tp4 7% on Android 4.0.4, SVG-ASAP 400% on Android 4.0.4, 500% on Android 2.2, on Nov 27.

Firefox OS Communications (scravag)

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  • koi+ status has reached zarro bugs
  • Comms workweek, DSDS: The workweek took place in Taipei last week. The team demoed
    • calling via either of the SIMs
    • receiving calls via either of the SIMs
    • sending messages via both SIMs
    • receiving messages via both SIMs

There was a small issue with data and this is being worked on and should be ready this week.
We are looking good for the reduced set of features we wanted to land in v1.3. Now onwards and upwards to close DSDS off with v1.4 – plus any bugs raised on v1.3.

Firefox OS Devices/Porting/Bluetooth (mchen)

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Firefox OS Media Apps (hema)

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Firefox OS Media Recording (cjku)

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  • bug 898949 – [B2G getUserMedia] Display front/back camera list on permission prompt
  • bug 936981 – Build up MediaEncoder GTest framework
  • bug 879668 – [MediaEncoder] Implement VideoOmxEncoder on B2G
  • bug 920921 – [Flatfish]: Flatfish has bad performance on Homescreen wiping

Firefox OS Performance (mlee)

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Last 2 Sprints

Firefox OS Productivity (doliver)

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v1.3 activity:

v1.4 activity:

Firefox OS Telephony/WIFI/NFC (kenhkchang)

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  • Last week
    • RTSP Client, to add suspend and resume functions and to support rtsp protocol in url bar.
    • NFC, to add test cases.
    • EAP-SIM, to co-work with partner to fix EAP-SIM problem.
    • Multi-SIM, to land all DSDS implementations into Gecko.
    • WPA-EAP, to add interface for WPA-EAP.
    • WIFI-Direct, to fix synchronization problem.
    • Power metering, to implement PowerStats API.
    • Network metering, to add metering function for system.
  • This week
    • RTSP Client, to add seek function.
    • NFC, to add test cases.
    • EAP-SIM, to co-work with partner to fix EAP-SIM problem.
    • LTE, to know what we need to add for LTE.
    • WPA-EAP, to import Cert by WifiManager.
    • WIFI-Direct, to support multi-connection function.
    • Power metering, to implement PowerStats API.
    • Network metering, to obtain system metrics and power profile.

Firefox OS Systems – Front End (gwagner)

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  • Moving Browser app into system: Bug 945259. (1.4)
    • We introduced a new Browser2 icon.
  • Download Manager landing this week: Bug 926955.
  • DSDS: Finishing FTU update

Firefox OS Systems – Platform (timdream)

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  • DSDS: v1.3 features to be completed this week. SIM card features is working on tests. There were some behavior difference on the chipset level need to be workaround.
  • NFC: Shirking UI landed. People is working on the BT part. Probably will not reach v1.3.
  • Tablet: Wrapping up work. Gallery and Video patches need to reconsider whether or not to land (and their maintenance etc.) need further discussion. (note: a short discussion after the meeting concluded that we should land what’s already done.)
  • 3rd-party keyboard support: Need to resolve one bug to make keyboard OOM recoverable. Keyboard manager flow to be discussed this week. Will discuss with QA on whether or not to reach v1.3. Some discussion on keyboard v.s. overlay.
  • WIFI-EAP: EAP-SIM, Gaia/Gecko landed this week, chip vendor to resolve their own problem. PEAP, TLS, TTLS: Gaia patch in review. Sec-reviewed this week.
  • Format SD Card: Patch in review.
  • CDMA: Two bugs on wasabi device is being worked on.
  • Window management: bug 907103 is being worked on. Will land after v1.3 branch since overall Haida work has moved to v1.4). Discuss with UX on haida UX this week.
  • Build script: Homescreen customization landed this week. Working on muitlocale.py and install-gaia.py.
  • getUserMedia: in review.
  • Lock screen: the canvas implementation have landed on master, some detail is being follow-up now. Need Comms to work on their call screen.

Gaia/Team/Taipei/Meetings/2013-12-03

GFX (milan)

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  • enabling async pan zoom on all Gaia apps
  • working on HD device (including Flatfish) performance
  • some residual Australis issues
  • ramping up MozSurface work
  • “merging” the graphics plans between the two graphics (Taipei and not-Taipei) teams

Identity (jedp)

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  • SF work-week for Firefox Accounts on b2g and web
    • Finalizing patches with reviewers (see bug 935245, bug 929388)
    • UX review, looking forward to b2g 1.4
    • Working with Marketplace, Wheres-My-Fox later this week

JS (naveed)

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    • Compiler (JIT)
      • bug 917996: Make sure encoding of LazyScripts are effectively working and that they are not de-lazified before.
      • bug 935999: Fix Ion addprop stub to support type checks (~20% win on Octane-TypeScript on AWFY)
      • bug 943327: Fix GVN to not store an instruction’s value number if we don’t need it (~20% win on Octane-Mandreel on AWFY, fixes the regression we had for the most part).
      • bug 609296: Make accessing properties (like toString) on number/booleans fast.
      • bug 939816: Support inlining functions with throw statements.
    • Garbage Collection
    • Front End and Other
      • bug 911578: Implemented IsPackedArray self-hosting intrinsic and used it to speed up Array#indexOf and #lastIndexOf

Layout (jet/dbaron)

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  • CSS Grid implementation starting
  • CSS Variables in code review (bug 773296)
  • CSS scroll snapping implementation starting (bug 945584)

Media (mreavy)

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  • Starting support for fragmented MP4 in MSE for Windows Vista, 7 and 8 by landing bug 886196
  • TURN TCP support in WebRTC will be landing soon (bug 906968)

Necko (dougt/jduell)

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  • no update this week, other than trying to knock off Q4 goals and a few blockers.

Performance (vladan)

Update next week

Seceng (mmc)

  • EV testing now on xpcshell (Bug 927016).

WebAPI (overholt)

  • will hopefully have SharedWorker enabled on nightly/aurora/b2g some time soon (bug 924089)
  • bent and baku working towards async IDB in workers by end of year (will be very tight)
  • janv has started on getting localStorage into the quota system
  • nsm (and jdm, a bit) working on Service Workers
    • TPAC feedback from Microsoft and Apple was positive but they’d like to see performance numbers before committing to an implementation
  • Gene and Fernando taking over Network Information API (ex. “am I on wifi or a mobile connection?” … cost harder to do)
  • with Intel, W3C SysApps WG has de-emphasized Telephony spec
  • Marcos working on study for installable web apps. Draft: http://w3c-webmob.github.io/installable-webapps/
  • new WebAPI meeting time: alternating 8 AM Pacific (as now), 4 PM Pacific (starting tomorrow)

Shumway (mbx)

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  • We are working on getting the add-on bundled into Firefox Android with easier about:config UI for testers to enable by default bug 905668
  • Thx for the progress on bug 886196 – Support fragmented MP4 segments and bug 709490 – Run WebGL on Web Worker with Off-Main-Thread-Compositing
  • Will be of interest if/when available: bug 944929 – (jsplugins-oop) Run plugins written in JS out of process

Quality Programs

(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)

MemShrink (njn)

DMD now works on Windows, thanks to Catalin Iacob!

Some progress on follow-ups for tree closures caused by Windows OOMs:

Also, web workers now use less memory, which saves 112KB per worker on 32-bit machines.

OrangeFactor (ryanvm)

  • Past week’s OrangeFactor: 5.77 (Previous Week: 9.72).
  • Trying to bisect some recent failures. PLEASE reply to the bug if pinged.
  • 17 intermittent failures fixed in the last week – List – Thanks!.

Stability (kairo/bsmedberg)

  • Overall numbers look good on all products and channels.
  • Starting with the latest beta, we are successfully reserving memory for Breakpad to use, so more OOM crashes should get minidumps.

Roundtable

(Comments and questions that arise during the course of the meeting or otherwise do not have a section.)

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Friends of the Tree

There were great changes by volunteers in Core and Toolkit during the past week. Thanks to all of these contributors for their passion and hard work! Here are some highlights:

Mailing List Threads

(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)

Good Reads

(Links to blog posts, books, videos, etc. that you think will be of interest to others.)

irc #planning Log From This Meeting

[2:03pm] lmandel: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-12-03
[2:04pm] KaiRo: lmandel: I have a one-sentence update for Stability
[2:04pm] lmandel: KaiRo: OK. Thanks.
[2:06pm] elan: lmandel: I tagged shumway update as read only
[2:06pm] lmandel: elan: k
[2:06pm] elan: if mbx decides to speak to it, that will be a happy surprise
[2:07pm] dveditz: mbrubeck: I noticed that change.... very happy to see it
[2:08pm] lmandel: RyanVM|sheriffduty: Audible today?
[2:08pm] RyanVM|sheriffduty: lmandel: no
[2:09pm] mbrubeck: Jumping on the Browser Toolbox bandwagon, we also have shiny new docs for using remote debugging to debug/inspect Metro Firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Remote_Debugging/Firefox_for_Metro
[2:10pm] elan: and we need to work on making the shumway update more extensive but this week is a small first step
[2:11pm] catlee: gavin: how many users to we have on holly nihglites?
[2:11pm] catlee: nightlies
[2:11pm] joduinn-mtg: gavin: followup about australis... can you make sure to loop hwine into the convo? he's on the hook for the migration with RelEng
[2:12pm] gavin: joduinn-mtg: will do
[2:12pm] • joduinn-mtg tips hat to gavin
[2:12pm] gavin: catlee: I think you're probably in a better position to tell me? 
[2:12pm] gavin: I don't know
[2:13pm] mbrubeck: gavin, catlee: The nightly-holly channel had 51 ADI yesterday
[2:13pm] dveditz: gavin: is there any UI changes planned for the menus that slide into the customize panel?  I like the Australis look over all, but that slidy menu thing is kinda ugly. Especially where it leaves part of the panel showing on the edge (looks like a mistake)
[2:13pm] mbrubeck: laura: Sorry!  Yes, you just missed the Platform meeting, if that's what you were asking
[2:14pm] laura: no worries, I was absorbed in jcook's presentation
[2:14pm] laura: and only realized the time when he finished
[2:14pm] laura: thanks mbrubeck
[2:14pm] mbrubeck: gavin, catlee: That's an increase of 5000% from last Wednesday, when it had 1 ADI!
[2:15pm] catlee: we'll beat chrome in no time!
[2:15pm] catlee: I'm a bit worried about shipping relatively untested builds to aurora users then
[2:16pm] mschifer: we have been running automation on holly
[2:16pm] gavin: dveditz: not sure what you're referring to - I see https://cloudup.com/c4GoZ7t9egv
[2:16pm] mbrubeck: If we keep growing by 5000% every 5 days, then in another month we will have about 800 billion users on holly
[2:17pm] gavin: dveditz: the "cut off icon on the left" styling is intentional - shows you how to get back to the normal panel
[2:17pm] dveditz: gavin: exactly! notice the buttons half peeking on the left? looks like a mistake
[2:18pm] gavin: it's a spatial orientation kind of thingy
[2:18pm] dveditz: also felt a little odd to press the help button on the left of the panel and have the menu show up on the right
[2:18pm] jesup: I think we missed a new contributor (first patch) in Friends of the Tree: Adrian Cruceru (cruceru.adrian@yahoo.com), bug 876876 which landed 11/22-23.
[2:18pm] firebot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876876 cri, --, mozilla28, cruceru.adrian, VERI FIXED, crash in webrtc::videocapturemodule::DeviceInfoDS::GetDeviceInfo
[2:18pm] dveditz: gavin: I get that it's intentional... I'm just saying it doesn't really work for me (one isolated anecdotal data point, from an otherwise Australis fan not a hater) 
[2:19pm] gavin: ok!
[2:19pm] dveditz: just throw it in the bucket of feedback for later
[2:19pm] dveditz: and see if more like it pile up or I'm an outlier
[2:19pm] mbrubeck: Maybe if the "peeking" part on the left were faded somewhat it would look more intentional.
[2:20pm] gavin: shorlander: ^
[2:25pm] mbrubeck: (or dimmed?)
[2:26pm] shorlander: mbrubeck: History in the panel here might be more inline with what you are talking about: http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/mockups-interactive/australis-interactive-mockups/windows8.html
[2:26pm] shorlander: gavin, dveditz: thanks!

Engineering Meeting Details

  • Tuesday 2013-12-03 – 11:00 am Pacific Standard Time
  • Dial-in: conference# 98411
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 98411
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 98411
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 98411
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 98411
  • Engineering Vidyo Room / Air Mozilla / MTV Warp Core / TOR Finch / SFO Warfield / PDX Widmer
  • join irc.mozilla.org #planning for back channel
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3-December-2013

Mozilla Project: 2013-12-02

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Upcoming Events

Monday, 02 December

Wednesday, 04 December

  • MozillaSF is hosting the Homebrew Website Club Meeting, 18:30-19:30 in the 1st floor common area. Description:

    Are you building your own website? Indie reader? Personal publishing web app? Or some other digital magic-cloud proxy?

    If so (or you want to!), come on by and join a gathering of people with likeminded interests. Bring your friends that want to start a personal web site. Exchange information, swap ideas, talk shop, help work on a project, whatever…

    Any questions? See the wiki page or feel free to contact Tantek (Mozilla host for the meeting).

    Also if you’re in Portland, there’s a simultaneous Homebrew Website Club Meeting there as well at the ESRI R&D Center:

    http://calagator.org/events/1250465273

    Planning on realtime video linkup!

Thursday, 05 December

  • On Thursday December 5th Mozilla will be hosting a Girl Geek Dinner. 130 Bay Area technical women will be in the Mozilla SF Space eager to learn about what we do. If you will be in SF and want to run a demo (eg: we don’t have anyone showing off Firefox OS) please sign up on THIS WIKI PAGE and get in touch with Lukas Blakk asap. The event goes from 6:30pm – 9:30pm and will be a lively gathering with food, drinks, speakers, and custom swag.

Product Status Updates (voice updates)

Firefox Desktop

Speaker Location: toronto (johnath)

Firefox Mobile

Speaker Location: remote (mfinkle)

  • New stuff landing in Nightly
    • New UI for performing actions on a text selection has landed.
    • Quick Share enhancements for main menu has landed. Context menu changes are in the works.
    • Core code for Locale Switching has landed.
    • FIX: fixed position HTML elements were busted

Webmaker

Speaker Location: OpenMatt in Toronto

  • Hour of Code is coming. Next week is Computer Science Education Week. Webmaker is joining with other education and technology partners around the world.
  • The goal: offer a one-hour introduction to computer science — to demystify “code” and show that anyone can learn the basics to be a maker, creator and innovator.
  • Webmaker is cooking up hour-long projects and teaching guides. (Blog post coming soon.) 25,600 events planned so far — check out the CS Education Week site for more

PLUS: help spread the word about Mozilla’s end of year fundraising campaign

Firefox OS

60 Seconds with IT

Speaker Location: San Francisco

  • 83 10.7 Mac OS X minis used for releng testing were re-purposed to 10.6 because of the similarities b/w 10.6 and 10.7. We now have lesser wait times on 10.6!
  • people.mozilla.org reboot tonight (Tuesday morning 0100 PST)

Speakers

Presenter Title Topic Location Share? Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, other info) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information
Andrea Wood – https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/andrea/ Online Organizing & Fundraising Lead End-ofYear Campaign Launch My house in Oakland, CA Yes media https://fundraising.mozilla.org
https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/7090-donate-a-status-to-mozilla

Roundtable

Do you have a question about a Mozilla Project or initiative? Let us know by Friday- we’ll do our best to get you an answer.

Please note that we may not always be able to get to every item on this list, but we will try!

Who are you? Area of question Question
What’s your name? What do you work on? Is your question about policy, a product, a Foundation initiative, etc. What would you like to know?

Welcome!

Let’s say hello to some new Mozillians! If you are not able to join the meeting live, you can add a link to a short video introducing yourself.

Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer(s) Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer(s)? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where is the new person based? What will the new person be doing?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Dylan Hardison Mark Côté MV Remote – Florida Bugzilla
Nils Ohlmeier Marc Schifer MV MV Desktop QA
Edward Chen Recording from SFO Taiwan QA
Jean Gong Chris Lee MV MV Firefox OS
Ravi Dandu Chris Lee MV Remote – San Diego Firefox OS

<meta>

Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Automation & Tools

Engagement

PR

Firefox OS devices now available in 13 countries]

  • Dial-in: conference# 8600
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 8600
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27-November-2013

SeaMonkey: 2013-11-26

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • N/A

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • —

OPEN

  • —

CLOSED

  • —

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • We are perma-red and perma-orange on comm-central and comm-aurora due to not having a recent enough version of Python (or if we do, the build scripts aren’t finding them).
    • On trunk Linux and OSX trunk builds are perma-red. Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
    • pymake is failing with “invalid syntax” again because of an outdated Python.
    • Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.23b1 release.(No ETA yet)
    • Comm-aurora red is due to bug 937558 (Need new Venkman and Chatzilla branches). Once we have the new branches we can land the fixes for Chatzilla and Venkman from bug 926279
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
    • Trunk, Aurora and Beta TBPLs are far more orange (or even red) than green; at the top of Aurora and Beta TBPLs there is a link to mozilla.org::ServerOps:DCOps bug 870207 which is RESOLVED WONTFIX since June. SeaMonkey::RelEng bug 884454 has been opened as a followup.
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings at the moment.
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.23 beta 1 is pending, no ETA yet.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • Representatives from SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, and Mozilla AMO discussed the future hosting of TB/SM extensions on the new firefox marketplace.
    • For the time being there are no plans to merge AMO into the firefox marketplace. TB/SM will be in informed if there are any changes.
  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • bug 888478 DOM Inspector could not be installed.
    • The Windows version of SeaMonkey 2.21 is affected but not Linux. The install.rdf is missing in affected builds. The last SeaMonkey 2.23 nightly build (before uplift to 2.24) does not seem to be affected possibly because of the other build changes during that cycle (bug 914560).
  • Lightning doesn’t work on SeaMonkey trunk due to:
    • bug 922777 which should be fixed in bug 915574 (Use MOZ_FOLD_LIBS in SeaMonkey).
    • bug 925823 (Failed to load native module libcalbasecomps.so).
    • mozilla-central bug 927073 (Binary compatibility broken for maintenance releases due to strict version-script).
  • There is now a Lightning version for SM 2.22 (Lightning 2.7b1) available on AMO.
    • Might need to point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/versions/ will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/#beta-channel does not jump to the correct page position as addons.mozilla.org loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.22

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (3)
targeted (0)
fixed (15)

2.Next

  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don’t depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2. Mcsmurf and Neil@parkway are currently working on this.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default –disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two configure.in changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 – SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now available in SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer. There may be some edge cases have probably been missed. We hope any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • FIXED: The about:privatebrowsing page needs UI polish (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 33 new, 9 fixed, 12 triaged.

  • Low to Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags:
23 review
7 super-review
2 ui-review
6 feedback

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Callek

Fixed: bug 938421 Add SeaMonkey 2.22.1 to bouncer.

ewong

  • Review:
    • bug 840427 – Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 – After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn’t know mozcrash.
    • bug 864291 – Remove “Personas” from UI and Help
    • bug 928632 – When the birth year is empty, SeaMonkey puts 1900 and in English language
    • bug 934492 – Adjust the languages preference pane to take into account Bug 910192 which removes intl.charset.default and deduces the fallback from the locale
    • bug 938673 – Add context menu to status bar padlock icon
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 – attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 – Port |Bug 435804 – Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 – [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 – Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 – Add option to disable Location bar history

IanN

  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 931111 [en-GB] Add Yahoo! and Bing to Fennec search engines
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
    • bug 837408 Add en-GB locale to gaia
    • bug 943096 Search subfolders checkbox is always disabled in Search Messages dialog
    • bug 943309 Update en-GB for Gecko 27
    • bug 943318 Remove Google as a content handler for feeds, because Reader and iGoogle are being discontinued
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Neil

Fixed on comm-central:

  • bug 932969 Find bar string is “undefined” upon first invocation.

Still needs to land on comm-aurora (there was other bustage last time I looked):

  • bug 934013 Modern Theme doesn’t get packaged anymore.

Uplifted to comm-beta:

  • bug 920677 Click-to-play plugins fail to show placeholder after resizing.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 937616 Click-to-play notifications should track plugins that are no longer present in the page.

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.
  • bug 514173 Make string literal buffers shareable.

Px

Working on:

  • bug 869900 Port | bug 867118 Remove browser.__SS_data and use a WeakMap instead | and dependent bugs to SeaMonkey
  • bug 889410 Wrong identity chosen when replying to my own sent e-mails

Ratty

Fixed since the last meeting:

  • bug 58986 The Find dialog should show autocomplete with recent searches.
  • bug 915574 Use MOZ_FOLD_LIBS in SeaMonkey, too (needs to land on branches) (needs clobber).

For check-in:

  • bug 154772 Tooltip for address bar should show complete current URL.

Working on:

  • bug 942548 The height of editor spell check dialog is too short so you can see only the top of the buttons at the bottom.

Waiting for review or needs a new patch:

  • bug 916865 Revert the part of bug 906083 which changed the spellchecker.dictionaries.download.url.
  • bug 920070 Add a few IDs to the File menuitems to make it easier for extensions to overlay.
  • bug 920951 Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central bug 842828.

Other stuff:

  • Going through my review queue.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Fixed on trunk:

  • bug 842439 Improve style and rearrange content of the about:privatebrowsing page.
  • Spin-off bugs, patches posted:
    • bug 939566 Take care of Mac-specific issues with the window title in the about:privatebrowsing page.
    • bug 936898 Add global alert icons in missing sizes to the modern theme.

Waiting for comm-beta approval:

  • bug 931484 Apply transparency rule to signatures only once even if they are nested.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 354940 Make background color in URL bar for https: more obvious.
  • bug 939481 No sync preferences defined for some Privacy & Security settings.

Filed:

  • bug 939540 Provide image scaling and respect exif attributes for embedded images (port Thunderbird bug 534083).

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

FIXED

  • bug 934191 (min) The title of the “Quit SeaMonkey” dialog is misleading when closing just the Browser
    • verifyme (with 2.25a1 later than 2013-11-12)

ASSIGNED (waiting for review)

  • bug 112578 (enh) search mails window : search subfolders should remember last state
    • One-liner port from Thunderbird, r? since 2013-10-20 (more than a month); also moa? but I suppose that that can wait until r+

Any other business?

  • Meeting schedule:
    • The next meeting is in two weeks time (2013-12-10).
    • There won’t be a meeting on Christmas Eve 2013-12-24.
    • Thus we shall meet again on 2014-01-07.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

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Mozilla Platform: 2013-11-26

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

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Engineering Meeting Details

  • Tuesday 2013-11-26 – 11:00 am Pacific Standard Time
Note: The Nov 26, 2013, Engineering meeting was cancelled for meeting free week.
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26-November-2013

Mozilla Project: 2013-11-25

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Friends of the Tree

  • Karen Scarfone (SnappyK on IRC) for massive amounts of page-tagging, macro-fixing, and editorial reviews on MDN during the doc sprint on Friday and Saturday.

Upcoming Events

Monday, 25 November

  • 1300 PST (your time zone): Secreview: esFrontline
    • Using Elastic Search with public Bugzilla data, this is a review for the front line side of the project

Thursday, 28 November

– U.S Holiday

Friday, 29 November

– U.S Holiday

Saturday, 30 November

Come join the MozTW L10n Sprint in Taipei Mozilla Space. In this workshop, we will give the information people need to understand how the L10n program at Mozilla works, and we will do an L10n Sprint on WebMaker, SUMO, and AMO websites and so on.

Next Week

  • On Thursday December 5th Mozilla will be hosting a Girl Geek Dinner. 130 Bay Area technical women will be in the Mozilla SF Space eager to learn about what we do. If you will be in SF and want to run a demo (eg: we don’t have anyone showing off Firefox OS) please sign up in this wiki and get in touch with Lukas Blakk asap. The event goes from 6:30pm – 9:30pm and will be a lively gathering with food, drinks, speakers, and custom swag.

Product Status Updates (voice updates)

Firefox Desktop

Speaker Location: Toronto (Madhava)

Webmaker

Speaker Location: OpenMatt in Toronto

  • At the Mozilla Summit, we talked about Mozilla as a place to Imagine, Build and Teach.
  • Why do people want to teach the web with Mozilla? We asked community — here’s what they told us. (lots of great quotes in this Popcorn video)
  • If you hosted a teaching and learning event in 2013, please let us know how we can improve together in 2014
  • + stay tuned for Open Badges presentation on Badge Kit

Firefox OS

Speaker Location: Mountain View

  • Firefox OS v1.3 FC is 12/9. We are doing an inventory of what has landed so far and what’s in progress. Looking at tactics to minimize risky late landings between now and 12/9.
  • Firefox OS 1.2 bugs are creeping down. We were ~30 blockers on Friday.

Grow Mozilla

Speaker Location: San Francisco

What does Mozillian mean?

Thanks to everyone on the feedback about the ‘what does Mozillian mean?’ discussion. I’ve updated the community definitions (Mozillian, User, Supporter, Casual/Active/Core Contributor) based on the discussions kicked off at the Summit. You can check them out at: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community

Speakers

Presenter Title Topic Location Share? Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, other info) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information
Jennifer Bertsch Mozilla.org Product Manager Mozilla.org Homepage redesign Mountain View Yes Slides http://www.mozilla.org
Mike Taylor Mobile Web Compat Introducing planet.webcompat.com Austin (vidyo) Yes Amazing slides http://planet.webcompat.com
Sean Bolton Contributor Capture of Summit 2013 Fairs San Francisco No https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2013/11/21/capture-of-summit-2013-fairs/
Megan Cole Marketing Lead, Open Badges Introducing BadgeKit Washington, DC No (just talking through it, don’t need to display slides) Slides http://openbadges.org
Mary Colvig Community Engagement Indonesian Desktop Campaign Tucson, AZ Yes Slides OTW
William Reynolds Community Engagement When do I get to see the monument to Mozillians? And related things. San Francisco No Slides Monument wiki page
Winston Bowden Community Engagement Supporting Typhoon Relief Raleigh, NC Yes Slides n/a

Roundtable

Do you have a question about a Mozilla Project or initiative? Let us know by Friday- we’ll do our best to get you an answer.

Please note that we may not always be able to get to every item on this list, but we will try!

Who are you? Area of question Question
What’s your name? What do you work on? Is your question about policy, a product, a Foundation initiative, etc. What would you like to know?

Welcome!

Let’s say hello to some new Mozillians! If you are not able to join the meeting live, you can add a link to a short video introducing yourself.

Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer(s) Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer(s)? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where is the new person based? What will the new person be doing?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Vincent Chen CJ Ku SFO (Recording) Taipei Firefox OS – Media Recording

<meta>

Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Engagement

PR

  • Dial-in: conference# 8600
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 8600
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=WeeklyUpdates/2013-11-25&oldid=774546“

21-November-2013

Mobile: 2013-11-20

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Schedule

  • Next merge is 2013-12-09
  • Release calendar has been tweaked for the following merge

Topics for This Week

Meeting Free Week

Next week is Meeting Free Week, which although it might only be observed by a handful of people, has the benefit of canceling this meeting next week. Plan accordingly.

WebRTC QA

Bugs for known regressions have landed. There might be unknown ones caused by the 3.43 uplift.

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge.

  • New contributor: Swaroop Rao, bug 936727 – Garble account name that is logged by UpgradeReceiver.
  • capella fixed bug 934470 – Cursor pin disappears on drag in textarea input
  • ckitching is working on landing bug 913985 – Automagically generate C++ classes wrapping Java classes

Stand ups

Suggested format:

  • What did you do last week?
  • What are working on this week?
  • Anything blocking you?

Please keep your update to under 2 minutes!

Kats

<Read Only>

  • Continuing to work on metro and keeping an eye on fennec bugs.
  • Going on PTO until Dec 1. Will probably not be reading bugmail.

Chris Lord (cwiiis)

  • Doing
    • bug 912148 – Fix tiled update coherency issues (patch done, sorting out Talos issues now)
    • Writing an article on efficient animation in html5 games/apps
  • On radar
    • bug 941050 – Async scrolling of fixed position content has regressed
    • bug 907743 – Align APZC display ports to tile boundaries

JChen

<Read Only>

  • Past week
    • Getting hang reporting patches reviewed (bug 932865)
      • Dealing with test failures right now
    • Fixed bug 938368 – Make ANR reporter use new telemetry ping format
    • Looked at bug 869584 – inputmode titlecase and autocapitalized are broken on HTC keyboard
  • Next
    • Get hang reporting landed

GCP

<Read Only>

  • Last week:
    • Preparation & EBU talk about Opus in Geneva
    • Some performance measurements for Opus
    • Regressions from WebRTC 3.43 fixed
  • Next week:
    • ASUS crasher for WebRTC
    • WebRTC load adaption

Randall Barker

<Read Only>

  • Last Week: bug 895358 in review, bug 932295 patch posted for feedback
  • Next Week: Continue pushing bug 895358 forward, work on more WebRTC related issues.

Brian N

<Read Only>

  • Finally landed Bug 874985 – Create session restore unit tests
  • Bug 881378 – Calls to GeckoProfile.get() can result in initialization races
  • Starting to look at form autofill

Sriram

<Read Only>

WesJ

<Read Only>

  • Out with a sick kid most of last week.
  • Bounced “bug 768667 – Use the action bar for text selection on ICS+” due to 2.3 issues. Working to reland.
  • Polishing up payments stuff
  • Reviewing/iterating on bug 875750 – Implement <input type=”color”>: Android widget/color picker
  • Put up a WIP in bug 940453 – Helper widgets for error pages

LucasR

Last week

  • PTO on Monday, and Wednesday (Morning)
  • bug 929982 – ClassCastException: org.mozilla.gecko.home.TwoLinePageRow cannot be cast to org.mozilla.gecko.home.BookmarkFolderView
  • bug 883500 – java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: the bind value at index <n> is null at
  • bug 938141 – Thumbnail flickering when Home is loaded
  • bug 939060 – Incorrect thumbnail is sometimes displayed on the last empty grid position
  • Patch reviews

Next week

  • Land pending patches
  • Finish refactoring toolbar
  • Fx26 bug fixing

liuche

  • bug 932092 – UI Telemetry probe jsm
  • bug 934596 – Support OpenSearch engines in search shortcuts
  • bug 939802 – error in template used in adding search engine (investigating)

Margaret

  • Done
    • TRIBE “I Am Typing”
  • (Still) In Progress
  • Next
    • PTO next week (Tokyo/Kyoto)

mcomella

  • Past
    • bug 916507 – Make Robocop testing no longer rely on Reflection on our own code.
    • bug 935604 – (& uplifted) Regression: Graphical corruption shown on screen during page load
      • bug 929088 – (duped) Typing “about:home” into URL bar hides awesomescreen if “about:home” is the selected tab
  • Present
    • bug 910859: Bootstrap new UI testing framework
    • FHR architecture docs
    • bug 939329: [meta] Enable JavaScript linting in mobile/android/
    • bug 935807: D-pad arrow keys move focus outside textarea instead of navigating within
  • Future
    • FHR: create bugs/roadmap for potential next steps
    • bug 898613: [fig] Editing mode tests (followup to bug 895828)

BLassey

  • working on tab streaming, mostly banging my head against a wall
  • GeckoView, landed the example app
  • bug 930059 now has an implementation of overscroll glow for pre-ICS
  • waiting on review for color picker

MFinkle

  • Landed support for network link type so JS can know what type of network it is using.(bug 939680)
  • Wes found a recently landed feature that allows SSPD discovery in JS too. I migrated the patches for supporting “Casting video to a TV” (bug 938571) to use this approach. It also works on desktop and metro.
  • Participating in planning:
    • MyList integration
    • PDF.js in Fennec
    • UI Telemetry
    • Casting video to TV

Ian Barlow

This week

  • Project Chameleon work week (visual design unification project)
  • Wrapping up some designs for the next Home sprint, would like to join the FE meeting on Friday to walk through them, if that’s ok with y’all

Arun

This week

  • Research on Form Auto-fill. Expecting to wrap up the research this week.

Next week

  • Kick off design for Form Auto-fill.

Security/MGoodwin

  • Playing with WebRT a bit more.
  • Working on some reviews related to Android services

WebRT

  • no patches for feedback yet; still working out some issues with install/run code flows
  • mgoodwin digging into security review
  • myk researching client-side APK generation as fallback in case of issues w/server-side generation
  • “apks” branch and comparison with head remain the source of truth until patches posted

Feature Focus

Fx26, Ships 12/10
Fx27, Ships 02/04
Fx28, Ships 03/18
Fx29, Ships 04/29
Fx30, Ships 06/10

Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 99998
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 99998
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99998
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 99998
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 99998
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • Mobile Vidyo Room
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Mobile/Notes/20-Nov-2013&oldid=767026“

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Planning: 2013-11-20

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Schedule & Progress onUpcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop & Platform

Current Releases

  • FF25.0.1 is doing well, no issues known (that would be respin-worthy)

Beta (26)

  • FF26.0b6 Desktop shipped
  • Reminder that next week we will only have one beta, going to build on Monday
  • CTP by default will not be shipping in 26, though Java CTP is a go unless unforseen issues arise

Aurora (27)

  • Aurora is in good shape

Nightly (28)

Firefox Metro

Read Only

  • Team working on Iteration #19 until Friday November 22.
  • To date, 9 bugs awaiting development in the Backlog are blocking uplift to Aurora 28: View Bugs.
  • To date, 11 bugs currently in development in Iteration #19 are blocking uplift to Aurora 28: View Bugs.
  • Profile Sharing: View Bugs.
    • 14 out of 23 bugs completed.
    • Of the 9 remaining, 2 are currently under development in Iteration #19.
  • APZC: View Bugs.
    • 9 bugs remain as blockers for Aurora 28 uplift.
ID Summary Priority Status
886321 Story – APZC metrofx issue tracking P1 ASSIGNED
840855 Defect – Dialogs intermittently fail to accept touch input P2 ASSIGNED
939192 Defect – error in sync settings: “ReferenceError: AboutFlyout is not defined” P2 ASSIGNED
930367 Defect – The “about:addons” text is cut off in the different views using Win 8.1 P2 ASSIGNED
939092 Defect – Bookmarks are not shared between profiles P2 ASSIGNED
922851 Defect – Moving browser to larger secondary display results in clipping / mis-sizing P2 ASSIGNED
934762 Defect – Metro renders squished and mouse/touch events are offset in dual monitor setup when one is HighDPI P2 ASSIGNED
936940 Completely disable text zoom in metrofx P2 ASSIGNED
936897 Defect – Download progress bar not appearing after first tab is closed (this._notificationBox.appendNotification is not a function) P2 ASSIGNED
831986 Story – Double-tap Zoom P1 REOPENED
934032 Story – Add View on Metro feature to Desktop Firefox in Australis P1 RESOLVED
924900 Story – Remove auto sync setup code P1 RESOLVED
931798 Story – Auto restore session after a switch to desktop happens P1 RESOLVED
931801 Story – Make shared pref sync code 2-way P1 RESOLVED
935178 Story – Support broadcast message for switching between Metro and Desktop P1 RESOLVED
801187 Change – Theme tab-modal prompts to look good in Metro P1 RESOLVED
895520 Change – Firefox Autocomplete theme changes based on latest comps P1 RESOLVED
855434 Story – Non HTML5 specific form elements should work P1 RESOLVED
910223 Story – Firefox Start Transition(s) P1 RESOLVED
938685 Defect – tab tray peek should get canceled if there’s mouse activity the tray P2 RESOLVED
936562 Change – When opening a new background tab, new tab should be visible and just to the right of parent/sibling tabs P2 RESOLVED
928068 Story – Don’t allow switching to Metro while in private browser mode P2 RESOLVED
932664 Story – Link clicks and file activations should open in the currently opened browser no matter which environment P2 RESOLVED
926036 Defect – Long strings in about panel are cut instead of wrapping P2 RESOLVED
927239 Defect – Context menu items keep highlight after being selected P2 RESOLVED
930771 Defect – Hover scrollbars leave white band after fading out P2 RESOLVED
932520 Defect – HTML5 drag and drop does not work in metroFx P2 RESOLVED

Firefox Mobile

Beta (26)

Features

  • QA signed off on Fx26 Beta 6: https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/26/Beta/6
  • Interesting uplifts include a fix for Nexus Devices: bug 935604 – Regression: Graphical corruption shown on screen during page load
  • 4.4 stars, still holding steady
  • Less than 2 crashes per 100 ADU and we have a recent top crash fix which should make that even better bug 883500

Aurora (27)

Features

  • Crashes are healthy at less than 2 crashes per 100 adu
  • Notable uplifts:
    • bug 932816 – Unable to close the app if webrtc is being used
    • bug 926430 – The wrong thumbnails are displayed in empty grid positions <== regression from favicon caching

Nightly (28)

Features

Developer Tools

Landings:

Outreach: after a great couple of weeks, it’s all quiet on the western front.

Feedback Summary

Desktop

Wow Australis.

https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/?product=Firefox&version=28.0.0

Yes, we now have almost as much nightly feedback as beta feedback.

Current negative feedback themes:

A lot related to customization.

  • Removal of Addonbar
  • Removal of Tabs on Bottom
  • No more small icons
  • Inability to move reload/stop
  • Some usability/visual issues with Windows 7 Aero

User Experience

  • Mostly Australis – keep the feedback coming
    • it landed; there’s a post
    • Another blog post, particularly around why what is where and customization coming today or tomorrow
    • absorbing feedback in various places; would like to coordinate with others gathering feedback

Market Insights from the Market Strategy Team

Mobile

  • The Dolphin browser was updated with features for a master password, night mode and more personalization options.
  • The first Jolla device will be released on the 27th of November in Finland. Distribution will be made through the hops of DNA, a local operator.
  • Analysis of Google’s strategy for influencing the Android ecosystem.
  • Developing countries in Asia – Pacific and Africa have been growing the fastest their mobile subscriptions, at rates up to 300% in the last year, according to Flurry Analytics.

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Marketing Updates

  • Indonesia Desktop Campaign: This campaign went live Monday! Background: Viking from the Indonesia campaign is driving a large-scale national campaign to help increase usage levels within Indonesia within Q4.[Laura, Gen, Viking]
  • Brazil Desktop Campaign: We’re currently in final revisions of this campaign. Background: We’re designing a campaign to coincide with the launch of Firefox OS in Brazil in order to leverage our partner’s spend in this region. Next step – tentative launch next week [Kristin, Laura & NoBox]
  • Van’s Triple Crown Sponsorship: Live, first contest started last week.Check it out. The Van’s website will most likely be launching a Social API implementation this week. [Brand Team]
  • Australis Onboarding Work Week: Complete! See preview here (all copy FPO) and listen to Holly’s update live [Jen B, Verdi, and tons of other folks]
  • Social API Renaming: FYI – this renaming has been put on hold until our dev outreach timing has been defined. [Laura, Social API Stakeholders]
  • Metro Naming Exploration: Happening this week and next. [Laura, Pete, Metro Team]
  • Mobile World Congress: OMG get ready. Don’t be surprised if you’re pulled into messaging meetings by your respective PMMs. [almost everyone]

Questions, Comments, FYI

  • will we observe meeting free week?
  • who would we send an Australis sentiment report to?

Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Finch Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99696 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99696 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: ProductCoordination
  • Vidyo Guest URL
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Firefox/Planning/2013-11-20&oldid=767143“

20-November-2013

Firefox Status: 2013-11-19

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Friends of the Firefox team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs.

mconley nominates Matt Hammerly who is helping out with bug 702005! Matt came aboard after seeing jaws’ MSU talk. Thanks Matt!

Project Updates

Australis

  • With final perf blockers bug 936469 and bug 937519 cleared, Australis landed and stuck on mozilla-central! \o/
  • Lots of bugs are getting filed. This is good. If you see something wrong in Nightly, please file a bug. Dupes are cheap. Please mark these bugs blocking australis-merge.
  • Shout-out to Gijs for fixing & landing bug 919965 (Drag ‘n Drop in Customization Mode overhaul)!

Thumbnailing

Foreground thumbnailing

  • kind of waiting on a consensus: bug 809056 – reduce thumbnailing impact when there are no thumbnail service consumers

Background thumbnailing

  • patch r+’ed, but Mark later pointed out a problem that needs addressing (not in the bug): bug 914920 – about:newtab displays thumbnail from unrelated websites for some links
  • patch posted for review: bug 931889 – Fix and re-enable browser_thumbnails_background.js
  • still blocked: bug 902755 – Deadlock in mozilla::ipc::GeckoChildProcessHost::LaunchAndWaitForProcessHandle after turning on new tab page thumbnails
  • landed on Aurora: bug 910036 – about:newtab shouldn’t load thumbnails in background when hidden by preloader
  • landed: bug 908277 – Make sure the background thumbnail service can’t open permission UI

SessionStore

  • Removal of Synchronous initialization path landing (bug 918024)
  • API for storing global session data landed (bug 899213)
  • Broadcasting of tab data as it changes instead of collecting it is close to landing (bug 930967)
  • billm landed a number of code cleanups (bug 930269)
  • Investigation into problematic websites greatly increasing the size of the session (bug 934934, bug 936271)

Social API

  • working on australis bugs
  • bug 935640 removes the old style toolbarbutton and adds an overlay button for sidebar selection, this needs further ux but is a big improvement (large code removal/simplification)
  • planning on several new providers to release with fx27 in january
  • a couple small bug fixes will need uplift to 27 (bug 935773, bug 936712, bug 940494)

e10s

  • bug 666816 All known Findbar regressions landed
  • bug 673569 Let each framescript have its own scope
  • bug 875871 Dev-tools for e10s
  • Software compositor
  • Linux sandbox

Stand ups

Suggested format:

  • What did you do last week?
  • What are working on this week?
  • Anything blocking you?

Please keep your update to under 1 minute!

gavin

(gavin’s Status Board)

paolo

(paolo’s Status Board)

mak

(marco’s Status Board)

enn

(Neil’s Status Board)

felipe

(felipe’s Status Board)

mano

(Mano’s Status Board)

ttaubert

(Tim’s Status Board)

adw

(Drew’s Status Board)

markh

(Mark’s Status Board)

smacleod

(Steven’s Status Board)

dolske

(dolske’s Status Board)

mconley

(Mike’s Status Board)

mikedeboer

(Mike’s Status Board)

gijs

(gijs’ Status Board)

Unfocused

(Blair’s Status Board)

MattN

(MattN’s Status Board)

jaws

(jaws’s Status Board)

mixedpuppy

(mixedpuppy’s Status Board)

Details

  • Tuesdays – 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 17:00 UTC
  • Handy local meeting time link
  • Dial-in: conference# 91337
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 91337
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 91337
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 91337
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 91337
  • irc.mozilla.org #fx-team for backchannel
  • “Firefox” Vidyo Room
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Firefox/Meeting/19-Nov-2013&oldid=765557“

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