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11-February-2009

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-10

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)

  • IanN to triage blocker nominations for 2a3.
  • Only one blocker left bug 460952 (Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn’t break SeaMonkey). So far no noticable breakage.

SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 3

Bug Queries

open blockers
all blockers
blocker requests

Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning

open wanted
wanted requests

Major wanted/needed features:

  • bug 381157 Download manager backend.
    • According to Callek patch for DLMGR + progress-stub is ready. However this will probably slip past alpha3. Changed to blocking-b1+.
  • bug 472001 UI for download manager.
    • Review done as far as possible with the code only. Waiting on backend.
  • bug 36810 Session restore.
    • r/rs+ and sr+ are there, unfortunately the patch only works correctly with bug 459550 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) so need to get this going as well.
  • Toolbar customization bug 394288 (Navigator) bug 413385 (MailNews). Navigator toolbars are now customizable. Bug 406780 (In OSX The customizeToolbars window should be in a <panel> popup) is now fixed so OSX now uses a panel. Remaining:
    • Blocker: bug 475920 (Make customizable menubars work without regressing OSX). We can fix this easily with a platform specific rule for OSX. But I need some direction from the module owner on how/where to put this fix.
    • Non-blockers: bug 475921 (tidy up CSS) bug 464653 (Fine Tune the toolbar context menu).
    • MailNews main window: Turning this on is now just a SMOP. However based on the Thunderbird codebase I foresee that one or more of the mailnews buttons that are widgets will break or lose their state due to their XBL being unbound during customization. We shouldn’t turn this on before A3. After A3 I can turn this on but someone more familiar with the mailnews code base will have to help fix any regressions.
    • Toolkit bug 476814 (Unfork/Unify customizeToolbar.* and customizeToolbarSheet.*) I have backported my enhancements to toolkit. The patch has r+ from mano but has yet to be checked in on trunk; and it needs to land on 1.9.1 subsequently as well.
  • bug 456757 Modern theme update
    • The next step is to file bugs/patches for each sub-module under mozapps/ in order to get reviewed. Ideally a graphically oriented person should to drive this – helpwanted.
    • If someone (who is reading this) understands our review process and can drive the existing stuff into the tree, please help us there!
  • bug 460699 Make the default theme look better on mac.
    • No progress at the moment but stefanh says he will look into this soon.
  • bug 454847 Fishcam update.
  • bug 410613 OpenSearch.
    • helpwanted
  • Handling bug 420506 Thunderbird kill-rdf.
    • bug 460952 Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn’t break SeaMonkey.
    • bug 460953 Port jminta’s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable.
    • mcsmurf should have more time next week to look into this.
  • bug 415372 Implement Feed Preview.
    • asrail is going through the review comments but making slow progress.
    • bug 471346 (Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service) mcsmurf has r- so will need to work up a new patch.
  • bug 460960 Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews.
    • Mnyromyr needs to sort out forking and moving files from mailnews to suite to get tabmail done correctly, as his initial patch broke Thunderbird by changing shared files.
  • bug 382187 (use places for SeaMonkey history).
    • The Places History Manager is near complete. There are only a few minor issues left such as can’t bookmark multiple pages yet, or can’t open them as a tab group.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

asrail

  • bug 415372 The first review round from Neil gave more work than expected. I’m progressing slowly. Still dependant on bug 471346.

biesi

Callek

  • bug 381157 Download manager backend.
    • A patch for DLMGR + progress-stub is ready.
    • Currently working on pref migration, and the actual progress stuff.

IanN

  • bug 471932 Do some tidy up/fixing of feed subscription and related code – fixes lots of issues with the new shared code – new patch with updated folderDeleted tests is waiting for review.
  • bug 469498 Combine messagePaneContext and threadPaneContext – landed.
  • Various fixes to TB’s new folder pane (should help SM in the future) – bug 465015 drag+drop of message not blocked to its originating folder, bug 467994 drag and drop subfolder to root of account is blocked/fails and bug 473001 Re-add support to reorder newsgroups using drag drop.
  • Usual reviewing and commenting.

KaiRo

mcsmurf

  • fixed some small Windows DDE related bugs.

Misak

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

  • Worked on toolbar customization. See the Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning section for more details.
    • Fixed bug 406780 (In OSX The customizeToolbars window should be in a <panel> popup). In Firefox this is a build time switch but in SeaMonkey I made switching between a pop-up window and a (pseudo)sheet dynamically controlled by a preference.
  • Fixed bug 477369 (Error: prefpane.paneload: loadSubScript(…) failed).
  • Worked on bug 433532 (Add an item to open about:config to advanced prefs) but currently held up be interminable bike-shedding.
  • Bug triage.

sgautherie

  • Fixed (or in-progress) SeaMonkey bugs:
    • bug 476237 Can’t drop between two folders on Personal Toolbar anymore
  • And working on other areas… like
    • infrastructure for running tests
    • filing bugs for leaks in (TUnit and Reftest) tests
    • doing an (experimental) Windows mozilla-central SeaMonkey build, reporting to bug 470184 issue tracking; hoping for bug 464325 new tinderboxes.

Standard8

stefanh

wladow

Any other business?

  • VPAT[1] for SeaMonkey (Similar to Firefox’s [2])- IanN has contacted Gerv, response was that we should contact Frank Hecker about accessibility issues.
  • The KompoZer project leader, kaze, approach us at FOSDEM 2009 and said that he might be willing to help on updating Composer. Also see his blog post.
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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-10

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • davida to look at status meeting agenda due to the drivers meeting that follows later in the morning.

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

  • For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.
  • clarkbw is release driver
  • gozer is build engineer
  • Slushy string freeze from: TODAY @ 23:59 PST
    • Current l10n Impact Bugs
      • bug 474701 — new search entry in default mail toolbar
      • bug 440794 — Leverage Offline capabilities to make sending email appear faster
      • bug 257942 — activity manager tracker
  • Slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 12th February 23:59 PST
  • Firm code/string freeze from: Tuesday 17th February 23:59 PST 1 week
  • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze from: Thursday 19th February 23:59 PST
  • Testday to stress major new features like Activity Manager put off until next Thursday
  • Gloda-based search to be off-by-default but easily turned on for b2

Thunderbird 3

  • new triage rules
    • to stay on blocking+ list, a bug must be owned by someone, even if that’s (temporarily) the component driver.
      • owned-by-driver bugs should have [needs owner] in status whiteboard
  • to think about:
    • when do we branch? (i suspect immediately after b2)
    • when do we lock down the branch for only blocking+ and approved+ (i suspect a couple of weeks after b2)

QA Updates

Roundtable

Status Updates

davida
  • trip to paris, brussels
  • fosdem talk

dmose
  • lots of driving
  • js-in-messaging work

nth10sd
  • Bugday results
  • Figuring out bug 475970 with Gozer. He’s a great help!
  • bug 476960 – got lots of stacks for bienvenu

Standard8

Non-goal activities:

  • Reviews
  • bug 257942 Fixed some documentation and removed unused strings in the activity manager
  • bug 427627 Created some test builds for comparing jemalloc numbers, got some bloat numbers and also requested some testing and got some performance numbers (thanks PI, sid0). Patch now posted for review which will enable jemalloc on the boxes.

Two week goals (end of week 2):

  • Implement send in background and hook up to activity manager.
    • Landed various bugs to improve the existing send later code, still some way to go (bug 476628, bug 476467, bug 477054
    • Currently trying to land basic activity manager for beta 2 bug 476698
    • Will then see what can be done to get send in background working and in for beta 2 if possible bug 440794
  • Implement about:rights (bug 463367
    • Complete and Landed
  • Try and get initial numbers for Ts to see if we can enable jemalloc.
    • Initial numbers look good, hoping for one more set.

Two week goals (start of week 1):

  • Implement send in background bug 440794
  • Fix up the What’s New page loading so that it can load css properly bug 466527

asuth

bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Figured out cause of OS/X incorrect offline state bug 473483 and Firefox bug bug 470274 so that dcamp was able to write a patch w/o being able to recreate the bug.
  • Drove Phil Lacy’s Outlook Express import improvements into the tree
  • Developed a fix for bug 476960 – IMAP Hang involving UI thread, which Gary Kwong is trying out.
  • Fixed bug 208197 and bug 359339, maintain imap keywords when copying messages between folders on servers that don’t support keywords, and move messages back to inbox when marking messages in junk folder as non junk.
  • Fixed slow scrolling with invalid .msf files, bug 469448
  • Fixed problem opening 3-pane ui when folder view set to recent and there’s an error getting the mru string property, bug 468656
  • Fixed bug 469231 treat header that’s not part of a thread as NOT killed, fixes bug where you had to select imap folder twice to see new headers.
  • Put up patch for review for maintaining offline copies of imap messages in move/copy target folder so we don’t have to redownload them.
  • Working on changing IMAP autosync to use STATUS to figure out if a folder has new messages instead of SELECT and full header+flag sync.

gozer
  • Build
    • We have pooled builders on Win2k3
      • Win32 non-unittest builders are in a pool
      • Linux is coming
      • RAM for Apple Xserve is MIA bug 474794
  • Web
    • SSL
      • Certificates acquired
      • Infrastructure will be in place this week

clarkbw

wsmwk

beckley

Lots of non-Penelope work going on lately.

Penelope
  • Submitted patch for bug 476343 Hiding folder pane then switching to message tab and back shows folder pane, awaiting review
  • Looked at TB architecture for splitting out attachments in to separate files, in preparation for implementing some new filter actions to do that

KaiRo

philipp / Calendar

rkent

rebron
  • Website ongoing, in cleanup/qa mode with target launch 2/24.
  • General marketing/pr activities for beta 2.

This week

  • Thunderbird Add-on developer outreach. Working on getting Thunderbird included in the Add-on Compatibility Center.
  • Google Adwords test plan

Tsk
  • Had a nice talk with the mozilla packager for OpenSuse
  • trying to make the reports for 3.0b2 testing better
  • preparing testday for new features in 3.0b2

Attendees

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-10

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Platform/2009-02-10

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.0.7

  • Code frozen

Firefox 3.0.8

  • Finalized schedule coming this week
  • Tentative code freeze date is March 10
  • Will send emails to blocker owners this week when we know when code freeze is

Firefox 3.1 Beta 3

  • we will go over the list of P1 blockers outstanding in this meeting and ensure they are being tracked
  • Important Dates:
    • Code freeze was missed on January 25th, 11:59pm PST
    • QA Start on ??, 9:00am PST
    • Release on ??, noon PST

Blocker Report

Since 1.9.1 branch …

Past 2 weeks …

[ Platform Blocker Queries | Front End Blocker Queries ]

Firefox 3.1 Update

  • Polish update: Firefox is 33% shiny (another +2% over last week)
    • Thanks go to: Dao and Jim (important polish-hard bug on Vista)
    • 49 remaining easy polish bugs (whiteboard [polish-easy])
    • 34 remaining hard polish bugs(whiteboard [polish-hard])

GFX 1.9.1 Update

  • 3 blocking 1.9.1+
  • 1 P2 with patch (just got r+’d today)
  • 1 P2 backed out, with patch work in progress (445087)
  • 1 P2 backed out, fixes in progress (466586)
  • 1 nom (waiting on feedback from upstream; unlikely to block)

Layout 1.9.1 Update

  • No P1s
  • Layout
    • 6 blockers
  • SVG
    • 2 blockers
  • Video/Audio
    • 18 blockers
    • Should bump most of these to ‘wanted’ to reflect reality
  • No untriaged noms

Content 1.9.1 Update

JS 1.9.1

  • 62 blockers
    • 16 P1s
    • 37 P2s
    • 5 P3-5s
    • 4 unprioritized
  • 5 untriaged nominations
  • landed fixes to gc scheduling – good to get beta coverage on that
  • one remaining blocker that’s tricky (upvar)
  • P1 list isn’t as bad as it looks; need to find a merge window

Mobile 1.9.1 Update

General 1.9.1 Updates

Security

Security Reviews

Still outstanding / to be scheduled

  • native JSON
  • DNS prefetching

Booked but not yet completed

Roundtable

Dealing with the iid rev stuff that came up in .platform before b3?

  • revisions landed
  • email to add-on developers went out

Tony asked if there’s anything QA can do to extend testing?

  • See Banking Wiki (intranet). Need to get an update on the community site this week, but please keep signing up in the meantime if you have access.
    • (tchung) Next steps, plan to get a similar site to include b2c sites.
  • (tchung) I’ll look into historical data, but if you have a list, please send it over. (eg. bug 462428 – Windows Live Hotmail should now be working in 1.9.1branch/trunk nightlies)

Downtime

  • IT needs a downtime to fix bug 456570 – Is tonight at 7pm ok? Is thursday better? (bhearsum)
    • yes, will close tree for tracemonkey then hand off to you (beltzner)

Greener tinderbox

  • How do we keep tinderbox from being constantly orange/red?
    • clint to set up 3 machines (one for each platform) and run it for a week to log random-oranges
    • clint will also compare VM to native to see if there are problems caused by that

Getting crash stacks from unit tests

  • stacks on unit test machines would help us understand a few bugs
  • ted going to see if he can do this for us
  • sayrer is going to help with buildbot requirements
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10-February-2009

Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-09

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-02-09

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • tracy will send out an e-mail today to highlight what needs to be tested to have full coverage for Library moving. ddhal is going to work on those tests.
  • Some user is reporting issues with AVG Safe Search and the awesomebar, we should verify if the issue effectively exists and if AVG should be contacted. See bug 475653 and bug 376084. tracy will investigate and report back.

Status updates

  • Bugs with dev-doc-needed (http://is.gd/iVWS)
    • mak77 will go through his bugs and fix missing docs

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • need documentation on how to write SQL queries against the places back-end, for core developers.
    • Invariants and triggers (sdwilsh)
    • Check over existing documentation for outdated information (sdwilsh)

Roundtable

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Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-09

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WeeklyUpdates/2009-02-09

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Meeting Details

  • 1:00pm Pacific time (21:00 UTC until March 8, 2009)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
  • sip:weeklystatus@mozilla.com from generic SIP clients
  • http://air.mozilla.com/ to watch and listen
  • join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

WeeklyUpdate Live: You can watch the weekly meetings live at Air Mozilla

Friends of the Tree

  • Neil wrote in nominating Mark Banner “for for all his hard work switching Thunderbird and SeaMonkey to toolkit’s login manager.”

(sorry, I’m late on this one. This should have been on the list 3 weeks ago.)

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x

  • Firefox 3.0.6
    • Shipped last Tuesday night
    • Had some server issues, which were fixed fairly quickly
    • Held a post-mortem regarding 3.0.6 (bugs filed for issues)
  • Firefox 3.0.7
    • Mostly code froze on Tuesday
    • Completely code froze on Thursday
    • On track for release in early March
  • Firefox 3.0.8
    • Schedule coming this week
  • Thunderbird 2.0.0.21
    • Most approval requests and blocker nominations have been triaged
    • Schedule coming this week

Gecko 1.9.1

Firefox 3.1

  • no bugs blocking Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 (bug 475100 needs to land before we build, but the patch is ready)
  • 31 bugs blocking Firefox 3.1 final release (list)
    • we estimate 2-3 weeks to complete the work
    • going to try to get them all done by Feb 23rd
  • if you want to help, come join us in #fx-team or by looking at that list of blockers or at our remaining easy and hard polish bugs

TB 3

  • Thunderbird 3.0b2
    • Slushy String freeze date: 2009-2-10 — (Feb 10, 2009)
    • Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-2-12 — (Feb 12, 2009)
    • Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-2-17 — (Feb 17, 2009)
    • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-2-19 — (Feb 19, 2009)
    • Target Build Ship date: 2009-2-24 — (Feb, 24 2009)

Mobile

IT

  • Bugzilla emergency upgrade (3.2.1 + 3.2.2 security updates)
  • Completed part of the Socorro database migration with webdev
  • 3.0.6 release related issues

Release Engineering

  • FF3.0.6 released
  • Waiting for “go” on FF 3.1b3
  • Prepping for Funnelcake release on Feb 17th.
  • WinCE builds are working!
  • Self-serve clobber support
  • Chasing down slave disconnection problems

QA

Test Execution

  • Shipped Firefox 3.0.6
  • Begin Major Update testing for Firefox 3.0.6 to 3.1 Beta 3 (trial run)
  • Please come join the Firefox 3.1 branch testweek to help with 3.1b3 testing!
  • Working on a community page for users to sign up to assist with financial institution testing. (Intranet page is up)
  • 3 mozmill tests checked-in (smoketests: 3/10)
  • 59 1.9.1 fixed branch bugs verified last week
  • Keeping unvetted results for 3.1 at or near zero in Litmus
  • Built out Mac OSX 10.6 machine for testing in the lab

Web Dev Testing, Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Community, Crash Reports

  • Tomcat gave a talk at FOSDEM on Sunday with a Mozilla QA Overview. Talked to many community members about top site testing.
  • Chofmann and Timr are planning talks for CeBIT. Topics:
    • Understanding Open Source & Mozilla. How You Can Leverage Firefox in Your Enterprise or Institution.
    • Getting involved with the Mozilla Project
  • Added Content to QMO including Guide to Firefox Test Days
  • Planning a community meet-up next week (March 18th) in Mountain View. See QMO or meetup for details
  • Great example of Developer and Accessibility collaboration regarding the new indeterminate DOM property for checkboxes. Think about Accessibility and talk to the A11y engineers: surkov, davidb, marcoz. They don’t bite. Just ask Jeff Walden!
  • Thunderbird 3 A11y: Marcoz Connected with a student from a university in Singapore who is volunteering to help with bug 449560. Pointed out some useful ARIA resources and gave a quick lesson on what the fix for this bug could be.
  • Helped the L10n team with Localization QA & Testing survey results analysis.
  • Web Dev Testing: Shipped Sumo 0.8.2. This took a TON of time and the team had a few login-related issues (HTTP vs. HTTPS), as well as a staging-server-not-pulling-from-trunk issue. Worked on AMO 5.0.2 along with the new all.html functionality.

Test Development

Security

No updates for this week.

Marketing/PR

  • Please join our mailing list to follow Mozilla marketing or join in the fun!
  • Join us our community marketing call on Wednesday, Feb. 11th at 10 a.m. PDT. Dial-in & details here.

PR

Events

  • EduCamp, Feb. 6, 2009, Brussels: Completed!
  • Fosdem, Feb. 7 – 8, 2009, Brussels: Completed!
  • India trip underway. See Mozilla Blog for details.

Support

  • No updates (traveling back from FOSDEM)

Metrics

Evangelism

  • Mozilla Developer Center:
    • Added automatically generated links to IRC channels; articles automatically show links to appropriate channels based on the tags on the articles.
    • Wrote a blog post covering how the IRC channels feature works, as an example of the kind of powerful stuff Deki lets us do.
    • Evaluation of the “Lyons” release of Mindtouch Deki is underway, with feedback going to Mindtouch to ensure the final round of UI work they’re doing is satisfactory for our needs.
    • Overhauled the Firefox 3.1 for developers page to be easier to read and better organized.
    • Started the new article Security changes in Firefox 3.1. Please help identify issues that should be mentioned there.
    • Added the article Applying SVG effects to HTML content. This is still undergoing some revision, but should have useful information as it stands.
    • Added the new article Controlling DNS prefetching. I believe this is complete; please feel free to tweak it if there are any problems with it.
    • By the end of this week, all major documentation for Firefox 3.1 should be complete.
  • Air Mozilla
    • after a couple months of experimentation, it’s time to start pushing forward on building a real application for Air Mozilla. Initial docs here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/AirMozilla
    • Brainstorming on intro clip that includes many of the voices and languages of the Mozilla community and offers a neat <video> demo opportunity as well.
    • Streamed several brownbags luncheons events. Waiting on help from IT to be able to post recordings at Air Mozilla
  • Lots of great stuff @ FOSDEM including talks from Mark Finkle, Chris Lord, and Paul Rouget. Lots of food and beer consumed.

Labs

  • There are now over 260 submitted designs, more coming in every day. We’re on track to launch a revamped Getpersonas.com in March.
  • Weave release on wednesday, see roadmap here
  • As part of the Concept Series, we’ve launched the first Design Challenge, open to student designers around the world, on the topic: “What would the browser look like if the Web was all there was?”

Developer Tools

Add-ons

  • Survey and blog post over the weekend to hear from extension developers on their pain points
  • Compatibility update- 76.5% (by usage) of add-ons compatible with Fx3.1.
    • When Firebug 1.4 gets released on AMO this month, compatibility will increase to 80.8%
    • Mailing going out this week to top 500 add-on developers not on 3.1, if we can get 20% of these, we can hit 90-95% compatibility.
  • 5.0.2 code freeze on Friday the 13th

Webdev

  • SUMO 0.8.2 was pushed live Thursday.
  • Socorro partitioning patch deployed, thanks to Lars and IT for their work on this. Blog post coming today or tomorrow.
  • AMO stats are still incomplete but catching up. read details
  • Work on the Prior Art demo continues
  • Pootle 1.3 is not ready for prime time. read details

L10n

Foundation Updates

  • Mark presented the opening keynote at FOSDEM 2009, looking at how far we’ve come with free software and what the challenges are ahead when we look at complex areas like mobile. Slides up on slideshare.
  • Mark convened EduCamp, a meeting of people using open source as a learning environment in higher education. There was good participation from both open source projects (Red Hat, GSOC, Mozilla) and universities (Oxford, URJC Madrid, UNU Maastricht). The plans of various players in this space feel like they are getting more concrete.
  • David convened a planning meeting for www.mozilla.org and posted notes, and also blogged about the www.mozilla.org redesign project starting soon.
  • David made various website updates to www.mozilla.org:
  • Frank posted about the new Mozilla Education weekly teleconference.
  • Per Kathleen Wilson’s recommendations, Frank approved CA requests from DCSSI and SECOM Trust (bugs 394419 and 368970).

Roundtable

Organizing work has begun for Google Summer of Code Projects. If you have interesting ideas or projects that interns could work on this summer add them to
the Brainstorming Page

Contact gerv or chofmann if you have additional questions.

Other Business

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5-February-2009

Firefox 3.1 Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-04

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Firefox3.1/StatusMeetings/2009-02-04

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Firefox Product Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – Firefox 3 – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for backchannel

NOTE: See Platform#Meeting_Notes for development meeting notes

Firefox 2.0.0.x / 3.0.x

  • Firefox 3.0.6
    • Shipped yesterday evening
    • Firefox 3.0.6 RRRT page
    • RRRT report: The RRRT Team (thanks Rey!) got a report about Problems/Timeouts during the Updates to Firefox 3.0.6. After investigation also other people have seen this Problem. RRRT has informed Release – Drivers and Sam has throttled Updates bug 476875 – Tomcat
    • Tracking any other issues and ensuring this one is fixed
  • Firefox 3.0.7
    • Mostly code froze last night
    • Might take two or three more bugs
    • In QA testing now
    • Aiming for release in early March

Firefox 3.1 Development

Development Update

  • full platform meeting notes available from yesterday
  • down to <10 outstanding blocker nominations, will keep this list triaged daily
  • down to 155 blockers without fixes for final ship, with an average find-fix rate of 20 blockers/week
  • will be revving a bunch of UUIDs which may affect 3rd party plugins that have compiled binary components (virus scanners, CoolIris, that sort of thing)

Daily users (weekly average across versions)

  • 3.1b2 – 350k daily users
  • Shiretoko – 10k daily users
  • Minefield – 6k daily users

Beta 3

  • JS team making strong progress, one of the bigger issues looks to be resolved today (upon which many of the other issues are dependent)
  • no further estimate at this time
  • Firefox 3.1 Beta3 RRRT page is ready to go

Support

  • Last week’s Yahoo toolbar/login issue may be a false alarm (may just be Yahoo cookies and coincidence that they all had the toolbar). Sorry guys.
  • No new Firefox issues last week.
  • The issue with update is causing people to get error messages, will keep RRRT appraised. Quick search gave 5 new threads (some with multiple people) in the past 24 hours.

Localization

  • Waiting for … guess what
  • Fennec l10n waiting for tinderbox problems on arm-linux, bug 475961

QA

  • Fx3.0.6
    • Fx3.0.6 shipped to world yesterday. First release of 2009!
    • RRRT reporting Fx3.0.6 partial updates were timing out. bug 476875 filed to throttle AUS at 50%
  • Fx3.1
    • Beta 3 testplan
      • Adding Windows 7 smoketests
      • Posted financial websites page on the intranet. Please sign up and assist with these sites.
    • Firefox 3.1 Feature testing progress:
      • Testplans (93% completed)
      • Testcases (85% completed)
    • 51 1.9.1 bugs verified last week

Release Engineering

  • no news – waiting for “go”.

Add-Ons

  • Current status: 76.5% compatible with 3.1 which jumps to nearly 81% once Firebug is compatible.
  • Emails going out today or tomorrow; delayed by Bugzilla issues which IT had to deal with.
  • Current compatibility dashboard still counts 2.0 only extensions. Revised dashboard will ship 2/19.
  • Rey is going to start contacting developers that use binary components regarding the Gecko 1.9.1 update.

Partners

Evangelism

  • Got Rey to post / discuss an IID change – might impact add-ons compat late in the game. Ask beltzner, he’s on the mail thread.
  • The Firefox 3.1 for developers page will be getting a substantial reorganization and cleanup this week.

Marketing/PR

  • Hand-off of designs to SilverOrange has started, should be completed by the end of the week. Goal is still to start l10n and QA by 2/15.
  • Refresh of Fx3 video ongoing with TRO
  • Outreach for more beta testers started
  • Updating 3.1 PR plan

Needs:

  • Review initial draft/sections of reviewer’s guide
  • Confirm Feb 27th to record what’s new video
  • Timeline for Beta 3 so we can begin press outreach

Roundtable

  • justin agreed to follow up with morgamic to ensure that we could throttle Major Update snippets on a per version / channel basis (to allow users to “Check for Updates…” to Firefox 3.1 on launch day, but not have the offer given to users who do not explicitly check)
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Places Meeting Minutes: 2009-02-02

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Places/Status Meetings/2009-02-02

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Places Team Meeting Details

  • Mondays at 9:00am Pacific
  • irc.mozilla.org #places

Work Priorities

QA Issues

  • tracy will send out an e-mail today to highlight what needs to be tested to have full coverage for Library moving. ddhal is going to work on those tests.
  • Some user is reporting issues with AVG Safe Search and the awesomebar, we should verify if the issue effectively exists and if AVG should be contacted. See bug 475653 and bug 376084. tracy will investigate and report back.

Status updates

From last week, the following things had open action items:

  • typo in temporary table names for the updated ERD. (dietrich)
    • Completed

Roundtable

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Meeting Details

  • 1:00pm Pacific time (21:00 UTC until March 8, 2009)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
  • sip:weeklystatus@mozilla.com from generic SIP clients
  • http://air.mozilla.com/ to watch and listen
  • join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

WeeklyUpdate Live: You can watch the weekly meetings live at Air Mozilla

Friends of the Tree

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.6 / 3.0.7

  • Firefox 3.0.6
    • Shipping tomorrow, February 3
    • Follow various comments, post-release, on the RRRT page
  • Firefox 3.0.7
    • Code freeze is tomorrow, February 3 at 11:59pm PST
    • Please land your approved patches ASAP
    • Will do another round of approvals in an hour or two
    • On track for shipping in early March

Gecko 1.9.1

Firefox 3.1

  • 1 bug blocking Firefox 3.1 Beta 3 (bug 476292)
  • 33 bugs blocking Firefox 3.1 final release (see the full list)
  • team is drawing up estimates of development time remaining
  • also turning our minds to what we need to do in the next release

TB 3

  • Schedule
  • 3.0b2 Details
    • Slushy String freeze date: 2009-2-10 — (Feb 10, 2009)
    • Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-2-12 — (Feb 12, 2009)
    • Firm String / Code freeze date: 2009-2-17 — (Feb 17, 2009)
    • l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-2-19 — (Feb 19, 2009)
    • Target Build Ship date: 2009-2-24 — (Feb, 24 2009)

Mobile

  • Working toward a Fennec M1 release this week
    • Not an Alpha! Just a checkpoint milestone for stability and performance
    • Core WinMo platform team is in MV this week to get M1 wrapped
    • Targeting the HTC Touch Pro
  • Symbian port is making headway
    • Build issues delayed work last week
    • NSPR patch being updated
    • Bugs/patches for XPCOM, JS and maybe Widget coming this week
  • Talos finds a regression!
  • Localizers are filing bugs

Weekly meeting notes

IT

  • Wrapped up core2 (bug 473084) IOS upgrade lastnight
    • minimal outage issues, kudos to dmoore & the team
    • talos buildbot issues & single homed mac minis had the majority of issues
    • upgrade unblocks redundant ACE load balancer setup and additional Netscaler -> ACE/Zeus transitions
  • ACE/Zeus ZXTM Cluster updates
    • moved versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org & fxfeeds.mozilla.org behind the production Cisco ACE/Zeus ZXTM cluster.
    • planning on moving services.addons.mozilla.org and load testing addons.mozilla.org to ACE/Zeus cluster
  • bugzilla.mozilla.org upgrading to Bugzilla 3.2.1, today

Release Engineering

  • Talos unthrottled on Win32, linux bug 468680. Mac was never throttled.
    • unthrottling uncovered some extra variance, which has also been fixed.
  • WinCE work coming along nicely – watch this space.
  • FF3.0.6 tomorrow
  • FF3.1b3 waiting for “go”

QA

Test Execution

  • Team verified 69 FIXED trunk and 1.9.1branch bugs in the last week
  • Hit Zero unvetted results for 3.1 in Litmus Tests cleanup
  • Ship Firefox 3.0.6 this week
  • Major Update testing for Firefox 3.0.6 to 3.1 Beta 3 this week (trial run)
  • Mozmill Testcases Tracking sheet – for smoketest automation

Web Dev Testing, Accessibility, Community, Metrics

  • Tomcat will be presenting An overview of Mozilla QA at FOSDEM, Brussels, Belgium this weekend.
  • Accessibility:
  • Metrics
    • With the additional of the crash tests, we are up top 60% coverage for C++!
    • Looking at project metrics for SG and Regression bugs
    • Analyzing L10N QA and Testing Survey responses to generate metrics
  • Web Dev testing: Tested SUMO 0.8.1, AMO 5.0.1 for release, Spread Firefox, and worked on mozilla.com improvements: all.html and Dynamic content

Test Development

Security

No updates.

Marketing/PR

PR

Events

  • OSCON CFP is closing tomorrow. Please let Mary & Nicole know if you plan on submitting a talk.
  • EduCamp, Feb. 6, 2009, Brussels: Mark Surman and others participating in EduCamp, a pre-FOSDEM event for people making the link the learning potential of free and open source development and colleges, universities and higher education.
  • Fosdem, Feb. 7 – 8, 2009, Brussels: Mark Surman is keynoting and we’re hosting a Mozilla room and stand as we’ve done in the past. This year we’re also hosting a Marketing Cafe.
  • MozCampDelhi, Feb. 10, 2009, New Delhi, India: Campus Rep Mohak Prince has organized a Mozilla Day that Arun and Seth will participate in.
  • Techkriti, Feb. 12 – 14, Kanpur, India: Sethb & Arun will be participating in FOSSkriti there.
  • GNUnify, Feb. 13 – 14, Pune, India: Sethb & Arun will be conducting a Mozilla workshop.
  • SCALE, Feb. 20 – 22, Los Angeles: Chris Blizzard accepted to speak.
  • SxSW, March 13 – 17, Austin, Texas: Brendan & Arun have been accepted for the annual browser panel. We’re hosting a Mozilla Open Web Lab meetup on March 16th in the afternoon.

Support

  • SUMO now has a twitter feed
    • Primarily intented for our contributors that want to be kept in the loop of what’s going on with the SUMO project without having to subscribe to our blog, or read our contributor forum. We’ll point out the good stuff in a short, simple Web 2.0 fashion.
    • Read blog post by Cheng Wang
  • Working hard to update the Knowledge Base for Firefox 3.1 — Effort led by Chris Ilias
  • SUMO project logo to be announced today on Tara’s blog — don’t miss it! 🙂

Metrics

Evangelism

  • Preparing to launch automated IRC link generation for articles in MDC.
  • Week-long meeting last week – more to come on that topic
  • Newsletter bits for deb

Labs

  • Weave WebDAV servers going down this week, migrating remaining users to 0.3.

Developer Tools

Add-ons

  • Thanks for coming to the Brown Bag, slides on slideshare

Webdev

L10n

  • L10n language de-beta-ing by the drivers team. Status here.
  • L10n on Fennec is moving along.
    • Updates on the plan and some recent progress can be found on Seth’s blog.
  • FOSDEM this weekend.

Foundation Updates

  • Continued progress on Mozilla Education planning, and new blog post from Mark
    • Dave Humphrey of Seneca will be stepping in to help move this further
    • Hosting EduCamp on the day before Fosdem to get input and network with others working on open source education
  • Zak posted on his ‘what does the net mean to you?’ video experiment
  • Spanish version of Mozilla Manifesto posted
  • Silvia Pfeiffer submitted a on her study of web video accessibility and a proposed implementation plan.

Roundtable

Other Business

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