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27-September-2011

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-27

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Platform/2011-09-27

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Goals

Notices / Schedule

  • We released Firefox 7!
  • We did the source migration!
    • Nightly users have fun with your version sniffing bugs…
    • Check the announcements for the particular changeset aurora9 is based on
  • We have a new release manager! Say hi to Alex Keybl, based in MV

Firefox Development

  • Dao has fixed one of the more annoying copy/paste issues with the URL bar protocol-stripping behaviour (URLs selected from the awesomebar should not have the prefix added correctly) (bug 668019)
  • (not really firefox front-end, but…) Gian-Carlo Pascutto is making very good progress on switching the safebrowsing store from SQLite to a flat file, to make it more suitable for mobile devices (bug 673470)

Firefox Developer Tools

Performance

GFX

  • The graphics team is planning on having a BugKill day, in which we endeavour to scrub our enormous bug list down to a significantly smaller set that people can keep in their heads.
    • If people are interested in scrubbing our old bugs, please contact Joe Drew so you can be included in the divvying-up of bugs.
    • We think it’s likely to take the whole day, so don’t plan on getting a lot of other work done on that day if you’re involved.
    • We also don’t think we’ll finish on this one day, but it’s an experiment to see if it’s useful, helpful and possible.
    • More details to come, but we know the Graphics BugKill day will be on Friday, October 4, 2011.

JS

Layout

Video

DOM

WebAPI

  • WebSMS API fully implemented (still needs tests and cleanup)
  • WebTelephony radio part is coming along for B2G
  • Files-in-IndexedDB, lots of progress on initial patch, but not done yet
  • Initial battery API drafted and implemented
  • Camera landed preffed off on mobile. Implementation issue keeping it preffed off
  • Fabrice will be doing camera on desktop once the mobile part is done
  • The plan is for all of the above to land on m-c.
    • Possible exception is WebTelephony, but we’ll likely want to land and disable that in order to keep it running and tested.

Network

Plugins

Mobile

Automation

  • bug 688762 – fix return codes for remote harnesses, this should reduce hanging tegras
  • bug 687974 – adb support for talos
  • bug 688604 – make talos-remote, coming soon!

Mobile Perf Program

  • Can Joel or Clint talk to: bug 685632 – Please collect RSS (memory) data during Talos testing on Android
  • Also digging into helping Joel prioritize & drive which automated tests need to be fixed and helping with getting the hw lab scalable.
  • The focus this week is to create a perf metrics matrix so we can obtain baseline measurements. This is a grassroots effort so that we can create a snapshot of the areas we need to focus on optimizing on mozilla-central in time for the mobile work week. We are focusing on “Macro” or observed measurements and will likely use a 7D/HDMI camera to capture screens
  • Still need to land on what the spectrum of reference HW; targeting by the end of the week
  • A draft of the matrix which will be ready for circulation tomorrow (wed).

Android Native UI

Mobile Testing Ramp-up

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Testing

meetings Wednesdays at 10:30PST

Accessibility

Multi-Process

Tree Management

  • 80 New 10.6 test machines (“rev4 mac minis”) incoming in the next few weeks. This is a larger pool than before and faster hardware, so they’ll turn around results faster.
  • Old 10.6 test machines will be recycled as linux and windows test machines, which should help throughput for those platforms too.
  • PGO being turned off for on-change builds. bug 658313
    • Nightlies will still be PGO
    • PGO builds will be run every 4 hours
    • It will be possible to request PGO on Try
  • Tinderbox mail has been shut off completely for almost everything. (Remains on for things that aren’t visible on TBPL: Spidermonkey, Valgrind, Nanojit)

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

 Item
Mon Sep 26 / 13:00 PST

Stub Installer

How we should implement the verification that the stub installer has downloaded the correct file for installing Firefox
(no link to feature page)

Tue Sep 27 / 10:00 PST

Panel Based Download Manager To Be Rescheduled
Wed Sep 28 / 13:00 PST

Embedded Add-On Preferences
Thur Sep 29 / 10:00 AM PST

Code Editor

Calendar and Meeting details

Stability Report

Socorro

  • Release deployed today
  • Has a skip list for mobile that will help get us more meaningful signatures.

Desktop

  • FF7 out today so too early for meaningful data.
  • Problem with ADUs on Trunk and Aurora showing up as 0 – seems to be fixed. bug 688587
  • All channels look relatively stable.
  • Most of the issues we are tracking relate to external problems
    • bug 684748 – Comcast issue. White Sky deployed a fix last week and crashes are decreasing as people get the update.
    • bug 665775 – DataMgr.dll – Marcia working on checking the list of versions that need to be blocked.
    • bug 688637 – Mcafee script scan – monitoring volume.
    • bug 688895 – Babylon toolbar – monitoring volume.
    • bug 688895 – crash nsRuleNode::Sweep
    • bug 687991 – mail.alice.it. Not getting reports due to problem with the crash reporter – this was fixed. Verified it’s fixed on the mac side on 09/23/11. Need to verify on the windows side.
    • Haven’t seen any issues yet related to the Flash release last week but marcia keeping an eye out for plugin crashes.

Mobile

  • Naoki’s detailed report – https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/crash_rep_26Sept2011
  • Crash reporter issues
    • bug 688692 , bug 686492 and bug 686800
    • bug 686973 – crash happening in Java layer so we don’t get meaningful signatures – around 15% of crashes.
    • bug 689234 – Mobile is not reporting the graphics data in the app notes field. Probably not working because on the desktop we are only reporting this for Windows and not other platforms.
  • Top problems we are tracking.
    • bug 687367 – We worked around this but are now seeing it in the wild. Need to make sure that Andreas knows that this is pretty urgent for Michael to work on.
    • bug 663494 – JP will ask Brad Lassey and his team to look at this bug.
    • bug 677548 – crash [@ nsBuiltinDecoderStateMachine::AdvanceFrame ][@ libc.so@0x15dd8]
    • bug 661158 – Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]
  • Triage for crash bugs to clean up the list, particularly reproducible crashes.

Roundtable

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Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-27

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WeeklyUpdates/2011-09-26

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

  • QA team nominates Gabriela Montagu (:gabriela) for her work in testing Fennec. She has been valiant in testing new territories on Android with mobile devices and continues to assist with tracking and examining issues raised in mobile meetings.
  • SUMO wants to thank cor-el, TonyE (aka Quarantine) and the-edmeister for fearlessly taking on question-answering head-on for the last 4 years! That’s over 100000 posts between them.

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 26 September

Tuesday, 27 September

Firefox 7 Launch!

Wednesday, 28 September

  • Brown Bag from NASA on their use of Bugzilla (includes the International Space Station) : Noon Pacific in 10Forward / Mountain View and on Air Mozilla

Thursday, 29 September

Friday, 30 September

Next Week

  • MDN Doc sprint October 1-2, at and during JSconf.eu, focusing on JavaScript docs.

Product Status Updates

Firefox Future (7, 8, 9)

  • We’re shipping tomorrow!
    • Watch the usual places for logistics details, but really, it ain’t no thing.
  • That also means tomorrow is migration day – beta becomes 8, aurora becomes 9, nightly becomes 10.

Firefox Current (3.6, 6.0)

  • We’re shipping tomorrow for Firefox 3.6.23.
    • We expected the 3.6 release to lag by a few days, but some prodigious QA and RelEng efforts seem to have us lined up to get it out for simulship. \o/

Mobile Firefox

  • We’re shipping tomorrow!
  • Performance testing, competitive analysis, and goal-setting are in progress, driven by Erin and Jay. Areas include:
    • start-up (cold and warm)
    • panning
    • page-load
  • Architectural options, including moving some of the front-end into Java, are being explored and prototyped, driving by Dougt
  • Firefox 9 will ship with an awesome/splendid new UI built for tablets

Thunderbird

The next release of Thunderbird ships tommorow!

(Johnath says “it zoooooms“! 🙂

Older Branch Work

Drumbeat

(no voice update this week)
Last chance to sign up for the 2011 Mozilla Festival in London. Nov 4 – 6.

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Presenter

 Topic

 Media

 More Details
–

 –

 –

 –

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Test Execution
  • Still testing/signing-off Firefox 7.0RC: Testplan
  • Firefox Mobile 7.0RC1-build2 signed off – notice sent to release-drivers: Testplan
WebQA
QA Community
  • Firefox Memshrink Testday last week: QMO
Automation Services

Automation & Tools

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

 Item
Mon Sep 26 / 13:00 PST

Stub Installer

How we should implement the verification that the stub installer has downloaded the correct file for installing Firefox
(no link to feature page)

Tue Sep 27 / 10:00 PST

Panel Based Download Manager
Wed Sep 28 / 13:00 PST

Embedded Add-On Preferences
Thur Sep 29 / 10:00 AM PST

Code Editor

Calendar and Meeting details

Engagement

PR

Mozilla Answers Business Users with a Slower Firefox Schedule

Mozilla Proposes Extended Support For Firefox
Mozilla Proposes ‘Slower’ Firefox Releases for Enterprises
Mozilla Proposes Firefox ESR Versions for Businesses

Mozilla creates an achievement system for the Internet
Mozilla launches a digital badge system
Mozilla’s Open Badges Offer Ways for You to Showcase Your Skills

Even at 7.0, Firefox Is Still Going Strong

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • Brandon Savage: joining the Web Dev team, managed by Laura Thomson, located in Maryland.
  • Mark Crandon: joining the Legal team, managed by Harvey Anderson, located in the Mtn. View Office.
  • Alexander Keybl: joining the Firefox team, managed by Christian Legnitto, located in the Mtn. View Office.
  • Jeff Beatty: joining the Localization team, managed by Chris Hofmann, located in Utah.
  • Jennifer Fong: joining the Web Dev team, managed by Fred Wenzel, located in the Toronto office.
  • Victor Porof: joining the Firefox Developer Tools team, managed by Dave Camp, located in Romania.
  • Brian Nicholson: Firefox Mobile Front-end. Managed by Mark Finkle. Located in MV.

New Intern Hires (Some actually started a few weeks ago, but with Labor Day and All Hands we may have missed introducing them!)

  • Andrew Halberstadt – Tools (welcome back!) – Andrew will be based out of the Toronto office
  • Jason Voll – Services
  • Stephen Lewchuk – Metrics

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates/2011-09-26“

26-September-2011

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-26

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

WeeklyUpdates/2011-09-26

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

  • QA team nominates Gabriela Montagu (:gabriela) for her work in testing Fennec. She has been valiant in testing new territories on Android with mobile devices and continues to assist with tracking and examining issues raised in mobile meetings.
  • SUMO wants to thank cor-el, TonyE (aka Quarantine) and the-edmeister for fearlessly taking on question-answering head-on for the last 4 years! That’s over 100000 posts between them.

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 26 September

Tuesday, 27 September

Firefox 7 Launch!

Wednesday, 28 September

  • Brown Bag from NASA on their use of Bugzilla (includes the International Space Station) : Noon Pacific in 10Forward / Mountain View and on Air Mozilla

Thursday, 29 September

Friday, 30 September

Next Week

  • MDN Doc sprint October 1-2, at and during JSconf.eu, focusing on JavaScript docs.

Product Status Updates

Firefox Future (7, 8, 9)

  • We’re shipping tomorrow!
    • Watch the usual places for logistics details, but really, it ain’t no thing.
  • That also means tomorrow is migration day – beta becomes 8, aurora becomes 9, nightly becomes 10.

Firefox Current (3.6, 6.0)

  • We’re shipping tomorrow for Firefox 3.6.23.
    • We expected the 3.6 release to lag by a few days, but some prodigious QA and RelEng efforts seem to have us lined up to get it out for simulship. \o/

Mobile Firefox

  • We’re shipping tomorrow!
  • Performance testing, competitive analysis, and goal-setting are in progress, driven by Erin and Jay. Areas include:
    • start-up (cold and warm)
    • panning
    • page-load
  • Architectural options, including moving some of the front-end into Java, are being explored and prototyped, driving by Dougt
  • Firefox 9 will ship with an awesome/splendid new UI built for tablets

Thunderbird

The next release of Thunderbird ships tommorow!

(Johnath says “it zoooooms“! 🙂

Older Branch Work

Drumbeat

(no voice update this week)
Last chance to sign up for the 2011 Mozilla Festival in London. Nov 4 – 6.

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Presenter

 Topic

 Media

 More Details
–

 –

 –

 –

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Test Execution
  • Still testing/signing-off Firefox 7.0RC: Testplan
  • Firefox Mobile 7.0RC1-build2 signed off – notice sent to release-drivers: Testplan
WebQA
QA Community
  • Firefox Memshrink Testday last week: QMO
Automation Services

Automation & Tools

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

 Item
Mon Sep 26 / 13:00 PST

Stub Installer

How we should implement the verification that the stub installer has downloaded the correct file for installing Firefox
(no link to feature page)

Tue Sep 27 / 10:00 PST

Panel Based Download Manager
Wed Sep 28 / 13:00 PST

Embedded Add-On Preferences
Thur Sep 29 / 10:00 AM PST

Code Editor

Calendar and Meeting details

Engagement

PR

Mozilla Answers Business Users with a Slower Firefox Schedule

Mozilla Proposes Extended Support For Firefox
Mozilla Proposes ‘Slower’ Firefox Releases for Enterprises
Mozilla Proposes Firefox ESR Versions for Businesses

Mozilla creates an achievement system for the Internet
Mozilla launches a digital badge system
Mozilla’s Open Badges Offer Ways for You to Showcase Your Skills

Even at 7.0, Firefox Is Still Going Strong

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • Brandon Savage: joining the Web Dev team, managed by Laura Thomson, located in Maryland.
  • Mark Crandon: joining the Legal team, managed by Harvey Anderson, located in the Mtn. View Office.
  • Alexander Keybl: joining the Firefox team, managed by Christian Legnitto, located in the Mtn. View Office.
  • Jeff Beatty: joining the Localization team, managed by Chris Hofmann, located in Utah.
  • Jennifer Fong: joining the Web Dev team, managed by Fred Wenzel, located in the Toronto office.
  • Victor Porof: joining the Firefox Developer Tools team, managed by Dave Camp, located in Romania.
  • Brian Nicholson: Firefox Mobile Front-end. Managed by Mark Finkle. Located in MV.

New Intern Hires (Some actually started a few weeks ago, but with Labor Day and All Hands we may have missed introducing them!)

  • Andrew Halberstadt – Tools (welcome back!) – Andrew will be based out of the Toronto office
  • Jason Voll – Services
  • Stephen Lewchuk – Metrics

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates/2011-09-26“

24-September-2011

The Meeting Notes blog needs your help

Filed under: Posts — Jesper Kristensen @ 7:19 am

Back in the beginning of 2010 the Mozilla community started to feel a lot less open to me. I could not put my finger at what it was, until half a year later someone pointed out that the notes from the various weekly meetings were no longer posted to Planet Mozilla.

These notes contain a lot of information about what moves in the Mozilla community. Having them on the wiki is all well, but being able to subscribe to them is essential to me to stay up to date on Mozilla matters. I remember the raise of hands at Mozilla Camp Europe 2009 in Prague where almost nobody attended the meetings, almost everybody used the meeting notes as a source of information about Mozilla, and roughly half considered the notes a primary source of Mozilla information.

Though I know the notes are important to me and I think they are important to a lot of others, this blog doesn’t do its best at sharing them.

Two of the problems with the current blog are:

  • The layout is not great. The notes are a lot more pleasant to read directly on the wiki than on the blog. I don’t know why, as I am not a graphical designer, but I think the spacing between the list items and the sizing of the headers are a lot better on the wiki. There are many themes to choose from on blog.mozilla.org, but the meeting notes make heavy use of both nested headings and nested lists, and most themes on blog.mozilla.org fails to display at least one of these two. For example it is common for the themes to display the following two lists the same:
    • one
    • two
    • three

    and

    • one
      • two
        • three

    The previous theme used by this blog before I took over had this problem, which severely reduced the readability of the notes. If someone has a hint for a better blog.mozilla.org theme to use, please tell.

  • The wiki to WordPress converter script has some bugs. It includes a bunch of HTML code and MediaWiki navigation UI in the blog posts, as well as other wasteful information such as the meeting location and dail-in information. I do not have the time to correct these things myself, but anybody is welcome to help. The converter script is open source and ready for anybody to hack.

If you know of any other problems with this blog, please tell, and if you are interested in helping fix the problems I have described, please tell. I can be reached at: mail at jesperkristensen.dk.

21-September-2011

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-21

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Mobile/Notes/21-Sep-2011

Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 95346
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95346
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95346
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95346
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • vidyo: PB&J

Schedule

Next merge date is 2011-09-27

Major Topics for This Week

  • Focus on tracking-fennec:9 bugs
  • Checking status on some “almost done” features:
    • Camera (UI and Backend)
    • WebApps API
    • Locale Switcher
    • Flash (click to play)
    • UA

Application

Front-end

  • Working on last few tablet UI tweaks before merge
    • We seem pretty solid for Fx9. Some of the tweaks could be pushed to Fx10, if we have other priority work.
  • Check tracking-fennec:9 bugs for anything assigned to you

UX design

  • Adding polish to the tablet UI, the Nightlies are looking great!
  • Please keep nagging ibarlow for UI input / feedback / assets
  • ibarlow assembling a prioritized list of feedback to get in for FX9

Platform Support

Android

Performance

  • Startup performance
    • Java frontend?
    • Toolchain improvements bug 686805 (bug 686801: static initializers/PGO)?
  • Perceived performance
    • Static UI during launch

Testing

QA

  • New Hire: John Hammink; QA mobile
  • Concerns
    • bug 686763 – Nightly SIGILL related crash on honeycomb
    • bug 684714 – content shows through the URL bar and is scrollable
    • bug 686901 – ESPN full desktop site major checkerboarding/layout/zooming issues
      • kbrosnan is bisecting the ESPN bug
    • Related, new STR posted for bug 676780 – Fennec is unable to load webpages and close tabs
  • 7.0b6 signed off, now on market
  • Crash Report: Sept 19, 2011
  • Working on startup time assessment on various devices. Any particular phone models/families that need more attention than others?

Test Suites

Test Automation 

* bug 687147 - crash on startup of fennec, fixed with a hack
* lots of other failures exist, mostly due to crashes of the browser or hangs during quit
* looking into adding in a 'make talos-remote' from an objdir, would this be useful for folks?
* click-to-play and e10s/non-e10s unittests?  this would double the load on the tegras, what is critical in testing in non e10s mode?
* simple wiki to decode [automation failures] on tegras

Release Engineering

android_tier_1

  • (fixed) bug 685242 – split try and non-try tegra pools
  • (fixed) bug 686748 – catch devicemanager exceptions in sut_tools scripts
  • (fixed) bug 687233 – foopies are running out of disk space
  • (fixed) bug 684871 – update dashboard for new tegras
  • (fixed?) bug 687156 – update pageloader max version to * from 9.0
  • (fixed) bug 687018 – intermittent dns failures in Android test jobs
  • (fixed) bug 669415 – new tegras online or distributed to developers; need to be hooked up to foopies

Overall, most purples/reds are now green or orange. Oranges are most likely due to the startup crash that Joel found last week.

Other

  • Welcome Brian Nicholson to Front-end team!

SUMO

  • Increased feedback on nightly posted to input this week:

http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=&product=mobile&version=9.0a1&date_start=2011-08-22&date_end=&sentiment=sad

  • 25% increase in page views for mobile support this month (we fixed a broken link and improved the navigation from the top of the SUMO site)
  • Android market reviews data spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Astsg__lnySwdE1WT1lyVVhUNF9mZWhrVkpTeU9pMWc&ndplr=1#gid=1

  • New people answering mobile SUMO forum questions = splendid!
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/21-Sep-2011“

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-21

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Firefox/Planning/2011-09-21

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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

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Actions from Last Week

Michelle to look at data for long tail of mobile flash problem. Can’t quantify this based on the available data, reviews and feedback don’t specify the web sites, they just ask for flash player/plugin:

http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?product=mobile&sentiment=sad&date_end=&date_start=&version=7.0&q=flash

http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=flash&product=mobile&version=9.0a1&date_start=&date_end=&sentiment=sad

http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?q=flash&product=mobile&version=9.0a1&date_start=&date_end=&sentiment=sad

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 6)

  • Firefox 3.6.23 went to the 3.6 beta audience yesterday
    • Currently planning to ship at the same time as Firefox 7, but it is at risk

Beta (7)

Aurora (8)

  • Reminder: The source migration from (mozilla-central → mozilla-aurora and mozilla-aurora → mozilla-beta) is Tuesday, 2011-09-27 (1 week)

Nightly (9)

  • Reminder: The source migration from (mozilla-central → mozilla-aurora and mozilla-aurora → mozilla-beta) is Tuesday, 2011-09-27 (1 week)

Firefox Mobile

6

7

8

9

  • Platform support for Flash on pre-Honeycomb devices landed.
    • Mark Finkle working on the UI part to enable flash (Push-To-Play)
      • Possibly done in the next few hours.
    • Need to message that this isn’t a *great* experience, but does get you out of a pinch when flash is needed.

Firefox Sync

Add-on Builder

Add-on SDK

Release (1.1 -> Firefox 7)

  • released last Tuesday, September 13, two weeks before Firefox 7
  • 1.0 -> 1.1 repack testing delayed, then stalled on IT issues

Stabilization (1.2 -> Firefox 8)

  • development branch merged to stabilization branch last Tuesday, September 13
  • first test build, 1.2b1, spun yesterday, Tuesday, September 20 (release announcement)
  • final release on schedule for Tuesday, October 25, two weeks before Firefox 8
  • might move up final release one week to Tuesday, October 18, three weeks before Firefox 8 (discussion)

Development (1.3 -> Firefox 9)

  • development begun last Tuesday, September 13
  • merge to stabilization branch on schedule for Tuesday, October 25
  • as with 1.2, might move up merge and final release one week to ship three weeks before Firefox 9

Feedback Summary

Desktop

Firefox 6.0.2

  • Definitely an increase in hanging/not responding over the last couple weeks and possibly crashier.
  • EXC in ev handl: errors still very high.

Firefox 7.0

  • Only solid complaint around http in URL bar
  • Possibly a bug around attaching files on email (mail.com/MobileMe)?? Filing now.
  • And extensions.

Firefox 8.0

  • Nothing new, a few complaints about update frequency still

Firefox 9.0

  • Crash (no crash reporter) on alice.it bug 687991
  • A few complaints that bookmark import doesn’t work from IE (but we’re still broken on 6.0, so no idea why it spiked a little — might be one user wanting attention)

Mobile

  • Increased feedback on input for nightly

http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/?product=mobile&version=9.0a1&sentiment=sad&date_start=2011-09-14&page=3

  • Major issue theme is that people don’t like the tab view in landscape
  • 43 mobile questions on SUMO this week, 11 unanswered. So, if you are new to Mozilla, answering questions on SUMO is an excellent way to learn about your user’s pain points and learn the answers to commonly asked questions about your product.

https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions?tagged=mobile

UX & User Research

Market Insights

Desktop

Windows 8 at BUILD

  • Windows app store was not yet available, but will be the gateway to getting apps into the Windows Metro interface.
  • Windows Metro applications are written for a new environment, WinRT, and will be compatible across x86 and ARM, traditional ones will not.

Internet Explorer 10

  • Microsoft released Platform Preview 3 (PP3) of IE10 with the Windows 8 preview. PP3 of IE10 will be released on other platforms at a later date.
  • The IE10 Metro browser will not support plugins, the traditional desktop browser will.
  • IE10 Metro browser is a full screen, “immersive” UX with a swipe interface, navigation at the bottom of the screen, tabs at the top; this can be expected to be the same experience on Windows Phone. The interface appears to be complete.
  • IE10 has significant platform updates including 3D visual effects, page layout and local storage. Full list on MSDN.com.

Google Chrome
Chrome 14 hits stable channel and includes two significant updates:

  • Web Audio API allows for greater audio effects based on web content
  • Native Client (NaCl) -supports only Chrome Web Apps at the moment.

Swiffy Beta
With the demise of Google Labs, Google released Swiffy as a beta service. Swiffy is a tool to convert Flash videos to HTML, SVG and CSS. Firefox is not fully supported by the tool, citing bug 119490.

Safari & DigiNotar
Apple reportedly issed a fix to Safari for DigiNotar certificates on September 9th.

Mobile

Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • Opera acquired Handster, a mobile app store solution
  • Google is preparing for the Ice Cream Sandwich release
  • Samsung and HTC are also concentrating on their own mobile platforms
  • Google Wallet, using NFC technology, launched
  • The first Windows Phone 7.5 updates to be rolled-out to consumers today

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Questions, Comments, FYI

  • Christian asked if our current mobile flash feeling was that we would leave it on
    • Current plan is to land it, have a UX review before Tuesday, and ship with it
  • Christian asked if it would be easy to see mobile Flash crashes
    • It should as the crashes will be in chrome with content in the stack
  • Christian asked if Flash on mobile will lead to a worse experience due to sites offering flash content rather than HTML5 content
    • We don’t expose that we support Flash on page load, should be a non-issue
  • Christian asked what the experimental add-on sync add-on (whew) EOL plan is
    • It should disable and uninstall itself when support hits Firefox
  • Christian talked to Thunderbird folks at the all-hands and we agreed it would be good to have them at this meeting
  • Should we have a Web Apps update in this meeting? (JP)

Actions this week

  • Sheila to come back on bug 687991 — crashes on alice.it without stack
  • Johnath to ping Todd about apps participation in this meeting
    • Sent mail
  • Johnath to ping JB about Thunderbird participation in this meeting
    • Sent mail
Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2011-09-21“

20-September-2011

Apps Status Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-20

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Apps/StatusMeetings/2011-09-20

Agenda

Review Q3 goals progress

https://intranet.mozilla.org/Apps#2011_Q3

Administrative

Meeting format for the future

Notes & Actions

Retrieved from “https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/StatusMeetings/2011-09-20“

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-20

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-09-20

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
    • Callek nominated tonymec for the tabbrowser “was tab viewed yet” patch which Callek consider to be a quite complex piece of code to patch.
    • Please note A person or entity can’t be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

  • We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). IanN has put out an email to the members list. InvisibleSmiley came up with some sensible suggestions.
    • We need to advertise such a thing happens even if it is only in the meeting notice.

CLOSED

Release Train

  • Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
    • Patch updated. Awaiting review
  • 2.3.3 shipped 6 September. Hopefully the last in 2.3.x series, but it all comes to CAs statuses.
  • Callek has been churning out updates and betas over the last couple of weeks.
    • 2.0.14 -> 2.3.3 Major Updates live as of 6 September.
    • 2.4 Beta 2 shipped 12 September.
    • 2.4 Beta 3 is scheduled for Sunday 25 September.
  • 2.4 Final Scheduled for 27 September (along with the channel moves) or perhaps early October depending on the Firefox schedule.
    • This is also the date for uplift to Aurora (l10n freeze) so we hope that en-GB patches get approval before then otherwise it will have to be dropped.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

  • Addon Compatibility Listings created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley, with help from some community members like DERoss.
    • Recent changes can be found here.
    • [InvisibleSmiley:] The External Sources part is still TODO, help appreciated.
  • Enigmail provides versions for release (AMO) and all branches (Enigmail nightly page)
  • Lightning currently only provides versions for the current stable release (AMO), Aurora and trunk (both FTP). We need to clearly communicate to users that at least for the time being, Beta is not supported (i.e. all Lightning versions are broken with it!).
    • [InvisibleSmiley] I switched to Aurora now just because of that! (later…) There’s a Calendar Versions page which suggests that contrary to what I wrote there are builds for Beta. Need to check that.]
  • The latest Firebug is now fully compatible but still not flagged as such on AMO (which seems to depend on automatic tests being set up and run on the Firebug side, see Issue 4430)
    • [InvisibleSmiley] Use Firebug 1.9 pre-releases for 2.4 and later (maybe even earlier SM versions; haven’t checked)
  • Besides the above, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.x.
  • InvisibleSmiley created a FAQ Wiki page. Everybody please help update it, so it stays current without needing too much maintenance.
  • KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.

We need to get the Addon Compatibility page finished and better communicate how to keep Lightning and Enigmail updated since unfortunately the only versions provided on AMO are for the current stable release. People keep coming back reporting that e.g. Lightning stopped working on trunk, Aurora or Beta. But since it contains binary components, Lightning easily breaks if you don’t retrieve the matching install file yourself.

We should also add some information on this to the release notes of future betas.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.2 Follow-ups and Issues

  • Lost Bookmarks bug 673474 and Cookies bug 673672 on auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.2.
    • Bookmarks can be re-imported from bookmarks.html.
  • Users are unhappy about various UX and usability issues with the new Data Manager.
    • Ratty proposes that until all the major pain points are addressed, links to the old individual managers be established (probably from the various Data Manager panes).

2.3

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (0)
fixed (25)

  • The New 2.3 Features page has a comprehensive list of features.
  • 2.3.x had ~77,600 ADU yesterday and 2.3.3 has had ~99,800 downloads so far.
    • vs. 6,580 on 2.2, 1,823 on 2.1 and 36,076 on 2.0. So, in the last two weeks, ~11k have migrated to 2.3 or above.
2.3 Follow-ups and Issues
  • werwolf reports that there are no Spanish Es-Ar help files, only English for several releases.
    • RickieES has contacted the es-AR people to offer them the es-ES files. Marcelo Poli said they will use es-ES files while we try to update es-AR content.
  • Status/update from RickieES:
    • Several e-mails sent to Marcelo Poli and Guillermo Movia about the issue.
    • es-AR is not translating help files; instead, it uses en-US files…
    • …but they haven’t been updated long time ago, which means that they have &copyright.string; entities no longer existing in help.dtd, which leads to YSOD (Yellow Screens Of Death).
    • They are missing the new mailnews-*.xhtml files, too, although the RDF files link to them, which leads to empty error pages (lke the ones appearing when a server is not available, but without any text in them).
    • I’ve checked es-ES help files for Spain specific mentions and reported back to Marcelo, so they can easily take es-ES and use them as es-AR with just a few changes.
      • [InvisibleSmiley] Or just copy the current set of en-US files as-is
    • Currently waiting their reply.

2.Next

  • Callek scheduled 2.4b3 for Sunday.
  • SeaMonkey 2.4 is due out towards the end of September (27th) or perhaps early October depending on Firefox and our resources.
    • [InvisibleSmiley] We need to make sure that anything that landed on comm-beta (for TB) or mozilla-beta (for FF) which affected non-shared code and which fixed regressions will be fixed on our side, too. Examples: Session Store bug 668646 (port bug: bug 671520). IanN agrees.
    • [Callek] In the future, please mark bugs we feel *need* to land on a particular train tracking+ or tracking? so that when I go to do a release I can be sure I don’t miss anything. (I should write up a doc)
    • [InvisibleSmiley] We need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. IMO regressions, especially from the last stable version, need to be addressed with top priority, especially in light of the rapid release train. Also keep an eye on and prioritize bugs to be ported from FF/TB that land on branches (Aurora, Beta). For example bug 668646 landed on Beta, but bug 671520 did not.
    • We need to keep an eye especially on Session Restore, Sync and Tabbrowser.
  • Please help updating the New 2.4 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 40 new, 39 fixed, 49 triaged.

  • More fixed than new this time, good! Good amount of triaging going on, too.
  • Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!
  • IanN wonders when would be a good time to have another bug day. Perhaps on October, once 2.4 is out?
    • Tonymec and IanN wonder if the last time was mid-week or on weekend. Operation Nugzilla happened from May 18th to 20th (Wed to Fri).
    • Callek_Away tries to triage bugs within 48 hours since they are filed. He hopes to start going through stuff once he gets most of his other todo’s caught up; but that may not be as soon as he’d like.
  • IanN to get Tonymec to start a discussion in the sm-members list regarding the next bug day.

Open reviews/flags:
27 review
14 super-review
0 ui-review
7 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

  • Kill-RDF:
    • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. [serge]
  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
    • Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.6 but could be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
    • IanN is still unpicking Composer/Mail Compose code in the dependent bugs.
  • de-RDF bug 654864 has been finished and landed on all development branches, including 2.3. Still to do:
    • Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues
    • for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in bug 669203
  • bug 515734 Provide More Entries in the Win7 Jumplist Tasks list. [Callek].
    • Fixed and in, in time for the 2.5 train. (Currently in aurora)
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Comm-central) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze has done a bit of work in this bug recently. Building on Windows works. Now supports debug builds on Linux if tests are disabled (–disable-tests). Still a lot to do.
    • IanN will see if he can help get builds working with --enable-tests.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

  • Kill-RDF:
    • bug 657607 Port jminta’s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That’s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 – Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
    • Note: Our location bar history doesn’t and can’t use autocomplete at all.
  • bug 677484 Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
  • bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
    • Note: The actual task here is to port bug 45715 “Reply to List” [button/(context) menu item]

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

asrail

Callek

Fixed
  • bug 686048 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4 Beta 2
  • bug 684648 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4 Beta 1
  • bug 682739 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.3.1 2.3.2 2.3.3 MU [Major Update]
  • bug 683719 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.3.3
  • bug 680113 – Select Add-ons dialog lists distribution add-ons as installed by the user
  • bug 686139 – Port |Bug 556382 – Link 32-bit Windows builds with LARGEADDRESSAWARE| to comm. (simple port)
    • For Trunk and Aurora
  • bug 684536 – More Sync changes since Firefox 4
  • bug 685480 followup, fix OE5 stuff to not duplicate symbols, and fix msgbsutil linking. (was included in try push, but as part of the “pull-bs” part.
  • bug 682898 – Create a test to ensure comm-central and mozilla-central configuration harness is in sync
  • bug 645616 – Re-Deploy Buildbot Master 0.8 based on structure of Firefox Masters
  • bug 687205 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4 Beta 3
  • bug 682808 – Improve the way nsIClassInfo is handled in components (Port bug 658632 to SeaMonkey) Trunk and Aurora
Other
  • All other work, including todo’s, working on, pending review, etc. can be found, up-to-date on my Activity Page.

ewong

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 677859 Stop using abDirTreeOverlay
    • bug 664832 Page info should use the same last dir for both single and multiple file saves
    • bug 682582 Move navigator/hiddenwindow stringbundles to navigatorOverlay
    • bug 682600 Remove duplicate keys/keysets in hiddenwindow
    • bug 682620 Move navigator/hiddenwindow commandsets to navigatorOverlay
    • bug 682723 Move common overlay/scripts from hiddenWindow/navigator to navigatorOverlay
    • bug 682740 mailNavigatorOverlay’s goOpenNewMessage never gets called
    • bug 648867 Can’t open new message window
    • bug 686372 Create helper function for setting nsISupportsString complexvalue prefs and make use of it
    • bug 686386 Tidy up network proxy type UI
    • bug 686999 Rename getBoolPref helper to GetBoolPref and make more use of it
    • bug 686936 Switch suite/browser and suite/common to use GetIntPref helper
    • bug 687292 gContextMenu.menu is undefined
  • Waiting for review on:
    • bug 638643 Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js
    • bug 680805 Share edit menus between Composer, Plain Text Editor and Messenger Compose
    • bug 683315 Update en-GB for Gecko 8.0 (mozilla-aurora)
    • bug 683323 Update en-GB for SeaMonkey 2.5/Thunderbird 8.0 (comm-aurora)
    • bug 684719 Update en-GB help for SeaMonkey 2.4 (comm-beta)
    • Test for bug 552782 Outlines: Numbering is wrong
  • Waiting for additional review on:
    • bug 21432 Implement Print Preview and Print Setup / Page Setup as in the browser
    • bug 676991 Move toolbar print button to utilityOverlay
  • Reviewed and waiting for other work before possible checkin:
    • bug 674942 Mailnews part of cookie code still gets built as MOZ_MAIL_NEWS is not configured correctly
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.

InvisibleSmiley

  • Fixed:
    • bug 686740 Port bug 686366 |Canceling Sign In wizard page triggers “Weave is not defined” error|
    • bug 683716 Port bug 682803 |can’t set address book in filters|
    • bug 686174 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4 Beta 2 release
    • bug 685247 Port |bug 653307 – Adjust reCAPTCHA NoScript hack in Sync| and |bug 670082 – When setting Sync options for the first time, clicking Done does nothing [error: Weave.Engines.get(“history”) is undefined]|
    • bug 683724 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.3.3 release
    • bug 684650 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4 Beta 1 release
  • Reviewed:
    • bug 684160 Port some recent SyncUI changes to SeaMonkey
    • bug 684536 More Sync Changes: (port bugs 620593, 626099, 630885, 636353 and 642969)
  • Working On:
    • bug 687207 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4 Beta 3 release
    • bug 686616 “Tabs from other computers” Menu item appears when it isn’t supposed to.
    • review bug 684537 Port bug 626949 |Sync UI: Style generic change dialogs like the setup and Add a Device wizards| to suite
    • create Sync meta bug and add all Sync bugs left to be ported from FF as dependencies (Callek filed bug 687316)

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Hope to have some bugs fixed by the next meeting.

Misak

Working on:

  • bug 675493 Port [bug 655550 Persisted tab attribute gets lost after restart twice] and one relevant line from [Bug 644998 – Session should not be restorable after “Clear Recent History”].

Mnyromyr

Working on bug 356742 [cocoa] Sheets are offscreen if opened when all windows closed (attached to hiddenwindow).

MReimer

Neil

Fixed:

  • bug 611503 Constructing an nsTDependentString from an nsTAString makes no sense [Core].
  • bug 660532 Useless uses of PromiseFlatCString [Places].
  • bug 684617 client.mk runs configure twice.
  • bug 684726 Remind people to update nsContentBlocker when they update nsIContentPolicy [Core].
  • bug 684805 Port bug 648045 Mark the active tab in minimized windows as inactive.
  • bug 684808 Warning: reference to undefined property this.init.
  • bug 685464 DOMMenuItemActive is not consistent for menulist items [Core].

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 673878 Option to disable mousewheel scroll on tab bar.
  • bug 683168 Add ARIA semantics to those search widget types that don’t have a Search button.
  • bug 685466 [element.onSecurityChange is not a function] on every tab change.
  • bug 686896 Properly escape keyword searches when alternative character sets are specified.

Other:

  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

Ricardo

  • About es-AR help files:
  • I’m back to work and I won’t be able to take meeting minutes, sorry. 🙁

sgautherie

Stanimir

Fixed bug 684981 Port bug 646307 stop annoying error console message: Warning: reference to undefined property msgWindow.msgHeaderSink.

stefanh

tonymec

  • FIXED:
    • bug 564100 “No way to tell if a non-current tab has been read: [selected=false] is not possible anymore” (port Firefox bug 487242 “Regression: in userChrome.css no longer possible to distinguish between unvisited tabs, visited tabs, and the selected tab”)

Any other business?

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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-20

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-09-20

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(current release schedules returning soon)

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> mconley
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • Protz is lining up to get this landed soon.
  • Code is being developed here.
OpenSearch
  • Still undergoing merge into core
  • What’s left to do:
    • Fix search engine providers
    • Tests
Test Pilot
  • Aiming to land this ASAP
  • Blake has UX reviewed it, but still needs a little bit of work to land
  • Standard8 will run it down this week

Experiments

Thunderbird Conversations
  • Paused to concentrate on Open Search / Account Provisioner / Test Pilot
Compose in a tab
  • Paused to concentrate on Open Search / Account Provisioner / Test Pilot
Account Summary

Paused to concentrate on Open Search / Account Provisioner / Test Pilot

Ubuntu Unity Integration
  • There have been some small breakages as Oneiric nears the finish line. Chris Coulson and I have been dealing with them, and we’re looking OK so far.

Schedule and Progress

  • Next merge date: 27th September
    • Get your patches in soon if you want them to land in Earlybird.
    • Make sure to set the appropriate tracking flags so that your patches are not overlooked.
  • For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/
Thunderbird 7
  • Currently on: Beta
  • Releasing third beta today.
  • Add-on compatibility bump delayed due to issues with getting AMO updated. Pushing for that to happen today.
Thunderbird 8
  • Currently on: Earlybird
  • Add-on compatibility bump information prepared, looking for this to happen soon.
Thunderbird 9
  • Currently on: Trunk.
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • The 3.1 series is going to keep going while we discuss how to work with enterprise users. Once there’s a way forward there, we’ll close down the 3.1 branch.
  • 3.1.15 will start building today, releases next week.

Extension of the week

  • Attachment viewer View popular files attached online using Google Docs.
  • Note that Google Docs is currently opened up in the default web browser, as opposed to a content tab.

QA Updates

  • Maintaining bugzilla
  • Release work

Marketing Updates

  • Reached 7.2MM ADUs; top countries – Germany, US, France, Japan, Italy
  • Latest Thunderbird Beta announcement
  • Next: working on resourcing for a brand book/brand positioning for Thunderbird. See Firefox brand book example.

Infrastructure Update

  • New VMWare server for Win64 soon
  • Pushing out new Try server this week
  • YVR Mac minis outage Wednesday

Build / Release Update

  • all-hands last week
  • joined the Firefox build team to share infrastructure and load balance with Thunderbird
  • planning transition
  • creating feature page for MSI + Active Directory integration
  • need to book input.mozilla meeting with aakash, tofumatt, davedash + one or more from Thunderbird to discuss pushback on adding Thunderbird to the existing service. (include standard8 or jb + sancus)
  • pushing Thunderbird 7 beta 3 to beta channel today
  • building 3.1.15 build 1 today

Web Update

  • new version of kitsune this week
  • compatibility bump for TB7 live no later than Thursday, TB8 bump live next week
  • We’re looking into the possibility of getting Thunderbird onto nightly.mozilla.org

Documentation

  • Knowledge Base:
  • reported an Opera bug with conditional content on Knowledge Base
  • 18 responses to (from us to them) to contributor inquiry form

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1769 new support topics (2041 two weeks ago) – Media:ThunderbirdGetSatisfaction-stats-2011-09-19_1614.png
  2. Thunderbird 6 Support Issues
  3. Thunderbird 7 Support Issues – new! please edit and add any issues found in TB7 (currently beta 2 soon to be beta 3), starting at beta 1 for TB7 and future releases
  4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Lightning release is probably better named 1.0b7, this gives us more time for testing the just pushed patches.
  • We are on slashdot
  • Google Summer of Code student Mohit seems to be sticking with us! Yay!

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-09-20

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Notices / Schedule

(Christian’s not on the call as he is tracking down loose ends…read on below)

  • Firefox 7 ships in 1 week
  • We might build today one last time for Firefox 7 (on Beta). Still checking on some outstanding issues
  • We created a build of Firefox 3.6.23 early today
    • Firefox 3.6.23 is at risk to ship at the same time as Firefox 7 due to blowing through code freeze

Firefox Development

Firefox Developer Tools

Performance

GFX

JS

Layout

  • Meet the new manager for the layout team: Jethro Villegas!

Video

  • Fullscreen API has landed, preffed off for now while dependent bugs are resolved
    • Set full-screen-api.enabled pref to true; in your app, call HTMLElement.mozRequestFullScreen().

DOM

WebAPI

  • Good progress on SMS and Telephony
  • Camera is the big item still not moving. Doing well on mobile, but need action on desktop. Action on Jonas to get it moving.
  • Will work with W3C on battery and network connectivity specs.

Network

Plugins

Mobile

  • started on the faststart project.
    • should be posting builds end of the week
    • git@github.com:snorp/mozilla-central.git
  • crashes
    • if you crash, please look at about:crashes. resubmit may be required.
  • Flash supported landed on android
    • pre-honeycomb only
    • frontend worked needed. (mfinkle is working on it)

Accessibility

Multi-Process

Tree Management

  • IT fixed a problem with the hg.mozilla.org Varnish cache last night. 502 Gateway Errors should now be resolved. bug 687633
  • Downtime scheduled for tomorrow at 6am. Will be put off if 7.0 final build interferes.
    • Updates to Talos, pageloader, and Flash plugin will be happening. We will be rebasing some Talos tests in the downtime window.
    • A couple non-developer visible changes landing too. See newsgroup post for details

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

 Item
Mon Sep 19 / 13:00 PST

Joystick and Mouse Capture
Wed Sep 21 / 13:00 PST

In Content UI Visual Unification
Thur Sep 22 / 10:00 AM PST

HTTP Pipelines 264354

Calendar and Meeting details

Stability Report

Desktop

  • A bunch of catchup to do from last week.
  • top issues
    • Datamgr dll versions – need to figure out what we should block, get agreement and get it done.
    • Mac crash with out of process plugins and get “no report available” – Bug 687899
    • Bug 684748 – crash when Comcast Constant Guard installed. Very high volume last week 80K per week. We are telling users to uninstall and that works. White Sky says a fix is coming soon – need outreach help.
  • Trunk
    • Crash rate pretty good.
    • Build on the 17th that introduced a bunch of new crashes. We backed out some stuff and it seems to have resolved the issues. We have some residual crashes still in old builds.
    • Type inference crashes – Still 8 open bugs – nice to get many of these fixed even if low volume.
  • Aurora & Beta
    • FF7b6 – volume still low – 12K users so not much data yet.
    • Bug 687001 – @ JSLinearString::mark – only with Aurora and FF7. There is a windows version of this crash Bug 686441. Seems to be related to Better Facebook extension.
    • Bug 620122 – crash [@ nsContentList::PopulateSelf(unsigned int)]. Old crash rising on Beta but we don’t know why yet.

Mobile

  • Naoki still working on detailed mobile stability report
  • Skip list for mobile should be done this week. Bug 683385
  • Crash symbol sender – Bug 664510. People need to install the add-on to Fennec to get the symbols. Naoki is evangelizing this on the lists. If you have a reproducible crash and we are not getting symbols for it, please install this.
  • Hearing reports that the crash reporter is not submitting crashes. Bug 686492 and Bug 686800. Is you are using Fennec and crash, please check about:crashes and make sure the report has been submitted.
  • bug 661158 – 13% of mobile crashes on 8.0 and needs an owner.

Roundtable

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